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re: The Third Saturday in October still matters!
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:16 pm to Eighteen
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:16 pm to Eighteen
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saying "deal with it" is a childish way of trying to prove your point of an argument is all I was getting at
No, this is childish:
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...its a shitty rivalry that only older Bama fans even care about
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until then, frick you
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what a fricking retard, typical of a Gump who thinks the college football world only revolves around them
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wow you are dense...
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Ur an idiot
I appreciate the discussion, but calling ME childish is very hypocritical. Regardless, enjoy the bye week.
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Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:31 pm to Eighteen
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im not off topic...im just saying LSU fans have a right to complain about the schedule just as Alabama fans did
but we are being told "deal with it" while you got a new rule implemented for bitching about it
so either you should have just "dealt with it" or allow other fans to complain about their schedule (like I said before, this is two years of bridge scheduling due to conference expansion and protecting two rivalry games)
saying "deal with it" is a childish way of trying to prove your point of an argument is all I was getting at
What is childish is your and other LSU fans incessant compliaing about the schedule....there is a big diference in every single team sceduling a bye before Bama and Bama simply wanting to maintain a rivalry game that has been played every year since 1901...it means a lot to the fans and is what made the SEC the conference that it is today....honestly, it really is amazing that you cannot see that....Bama doesnt give a shite about the schedule and frankly I would rather see us drop LSU or anyone else than give up our rivalry game
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:36 pm to TCBRTR
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Of course TTSIO still matters!
I doesn't matter to anyone not in Tennessee or Alabama. Most people don't even know it's a rivalry. It's dead. Times are changing, the league has changed and expanded. Time for historical rivalries that aren't meaningful anymore to change as well.
If the SEC wants to keep everything like it always has been, why expand the league? If Bama wants to play Tenn and AU every year and AU wants to play UGA and Bama every year, then move both to the East.
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Coach Bryant once won eleven straight yet no game meant more to him
No offense, but noone outside of the Bama fanbase cares what Coach Bryant thought. The man's been dead for 30 years. (God rest his soul.)
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I'm sorry some of you younger folks, who live only in the moment and in the age of instant gratification, fail to appreciate the rivalry. It still matters to a lot of people, and if history is any indicator, TTSIO will continue to thrill fans of both schools for years to come.
What does instant gratification have to do with the fact that you old-timers have a team(Mizzou) that is further west than than half of the SEC West playing in the SEC East so you can line up schedules for your meaningless rivalries. Bama is not an independent and neither is Tennessee. They are part of a conference of 14 teams that all get affected by the others' schedules. Is it really fair to hold the rest of the conference hostage because the older generation wants its little-known rivalry?
Sorry old man, I am past my college days and I have been watching the SEC for about 15 years now and not once have I ever cared about Tenn/Bama as a rivalry. Bama/AU....different story. That's a rivalry.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:43 pm to TCBRTR
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TCBRTR
First - Idiot
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Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:44 pm to 14&Counting
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I would rather see us drop LSU
Im sure you would, after Nov. 3rd you will be begging too...
Im sure you'd love to drop anyone that could possibly give you a game, that's been proven..
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:48 pm to stho381
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Is it really fair to hold the rest of the conference hostage because the older generation wants its little-known rivalry?
Well, some have said we run the conference (
), so using their own words, YES, we'll do what we want. I'm being sarcastic but of course Mizzou doesn't belong in the East. Alabama didn't do that. But what's the solution? I didn't want expansion to begin with.
I'm 42 by the way. My post about "younger folks" applies to those who seem to ignore history for the sake of argument and the immediate situation. The SEC was built into what it is today by great traditions and rivalries. That's the fabric of our passion and what separates us from the other conferences. We don't have as many pro teams, big media markets, etc. College football is revered much more in the South. I just hate seeing us change some of the things that made us what we are to accommodate expansion and TV schedules.
Call me old school if you want. It's a badge I wear with pride.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:48 pm to stho381
Yes, Tennessee is down. The rivalry has taken a hit because, since 2000, at least one of the two teams have been in a down cycle. I understand where you guys are coming from, but this rivalry is not dead. There are people outside of the two states that know and realize this. Hell, I would play Bama is an OCC, but I don't make the decisions. It is what it is. Stop bitching about it.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:55 pm to TigerBait2008
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Im sure you would, after Nov. 3rd you will be begging too...
Im sure you'd love to drop anyone that could possibly give you a game, that's been proven..
Bama aint afraid of any game son...we own all those teams in the east just like we own LSU's arse....21-Zeraux Bitch and you'll see on November 3rd when Bama pushes LSU's shite in who runs this conference
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:59 pm to 14&Counting
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November 3rd when Bama pushes LSU's shite in who runs this conference
I guess we wouldn't have any successful teams in the conference without Alabama.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 1:11 pm to TCBRTR
Bama fans screaming that the Bama-UT game still means something, is like an LSU fan scream that the LSU-Tulane series still means something.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 1:25 pm to TCBRTR
Hypothetical question for the fans that think TSIO is a true rivalry.
If AU was moved to the EAST, would UA.....
A. want to keep the TSIO
B. plea to have the IB replace UT
C. Let the chips fall where they may.
If AU was moved to the EAST, would UA.....
A. want to keep the TSIO
B. plea to have the IB replace UT
C. Let the chips fall where they may.
This post was edited on 10/22/12 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 10/22/12 at 2:07 pm to 10888bge
Since we're into polling, I took an admittedly very informal poll of the relevance of the bama/UT game. I sent a message to the Oregon, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Texas Tech,Ga.Tech, Boston College & Miami's boards, asking each if they knew what Third Sat.in Oct. meant to college football. I got, on the average, 5 responses from each board, or 35 total. 3 knew what it meant, and 2 were from Ga.Tech. Exit polls would seem to suggest no one outside the SEC knows, let alone, gives a crap, bout it. I have no problem with it being played every yr for another 100 yrs. Just quit making it the roadblock to conference scheduling that it does now.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 2:37 pm to 10888bge
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If AU was moved to the EAST, would UA.....
B, because the Iron Bowl is Bama's biggest rivalry game. That doesn't mean Bama-UT is not also a big rivalry... Oklahoma has two rivalries, the Red River Rivalry and Bedlam, Florida State has two (Miami and UF), and many other teams do as well. And so does Bama.
And for the idiot comparing LSU-Tulane to Bama-UT, well... there's simply no hope for people like you. You do know that Tennessee has won more football games than LSU, don't you? I've said it already but it bears repeating... Tennessee is down but they will return to being a top-tier SEC team. Bama's been down, LSU's been down, and the fact is every team experiences their ups and downs. The bottom line is that since college football was invented Alabama and Tennessee are the two winningest teams in the SEC. That's not over five years, or since 2000 (when most LSU fans believe college football began), but over the course of 100+ years. The shortsightedness of certain SEC fans should not be allowed to ruin this important rivalry.
This post was edited on 10/22/12 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 10/22/12 at 2:43 pm to Spread
so what about Missouri and Kansas losing their rivalry just last year? Texas A&M and Texas as well?
The world will still spin if the game isn't played...times and conferences are changing and some things will have to go by the wayside if they don't fit.
This is two years of bridge scheduling just because of two games (TTSIO and Auburn-Georgia)...something has to be done long term, but if they are unwilling to go to a 9 game SEC schedule, add two more teams, or re shuffle the divisions then these games have to go.
Very few people outside of the SEC (and even a lot inside the SEC) know what the "Third Saturday In October" is.
I understand why Bama fans want to keep their rivalry as it definitely is a big deal to both you and Tennessee (if it was LSU I prob wouldn't want to give it up either)...but it isn't relevant in any way to the conference or the nation.
The world will still spin if the game isn't played...times and conferences are changing and some things will have to go by the wayside if they don't fit.
This is two years of bridge scheduling just because of two games (TTSIO and Auburn-Georgia)...something has to be done long term, but if they are unwilling to go to a 9 game SEC schedule, add two more teams, or re shuffle the divisions then these games have to go.
Very few people outside of the SEC (and even a lot inside the SEC) know what the "Third Saturday In October" is.
I understand why Bama fans want to keep their rivalry as it definitely is a big deal to both you and Tennessee (if it was LSU I prob wouldn't want to give it up either)...but it isn't relevant in any way to the conference or the nation.
This post was edited on 10/22/12 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 10/22/12 at 2:55 pm to Eighteen
"Ruin this important rivalry">>> Important to whom? Certainly not to anyone else in the conference, let alone the rest of the country.No one here is arguing that it not important to both schools. We are simply saying that it is not important to us as a league & so it should not be the determining factor in how the league's schedule is made out. And this has nothing to do with the 100 yrs its been played. League-wide scheduling has only become a hot issue since re-alignment. Neb/Ok & UT/A&M both were, in my opinion, a lot bigger true rivalry as far as relevance goes. Both games are now gone & all 4 schools have moved on & picked up new teams as rivals.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 2:59 pm to Eighteen
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This is two years of bridge scheduling just because of two games (TTSIO and Auburn-Georgia)...something has to be done long term, but if they are unwilling to go to a 9 game SEC schedule, add two more teams, or re shuffle the divisions then these games have to go.
Deep South's Oldest Rivalry 115 yrs/games >>>>>>> than TSIO 94 games.
Mizz v. Jayhawk 120 games
UT v. A&M 118 games
USCe v. Clem 109
A&M v. Baylor 108 games
UG v. GT 106 games.
The Deep south's Oldest rivalry IMO should stay. It is the Oldest Rivalry in the SEC. Only 6 other rivalries have played more games than it, and only by six games. It normally also is of more relevance to the SEC. UGA,AU>UT
All of the rivalries listed above are better than TSIO. The only reason TSIO is going to stay put is that UA is a participant.
This post was edited on 10/22/12 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:08 pm to Keltic Tiger
Saturday's overnight national ratings:
LSU vs. Texas A&M (buried at 11 a.m. in favor of TSIO): 2.8
TSIO, ESPN Primetime: 2.6
I'm sure it's a great rivalry from the standpoint of the participants, but it is not an asset for the league. In fact, it is proving to be quite a liability since it completely screws up the schedule for everyone.
LSU vs. Texas A&M (buried at 11 a.m. in favor of TSIO): 2.8
TSIO, ESPN Primetime: 2.6
I'm sure it's a great rivalry from the standpoint of the participants, but it is not an asset for the league. In fact, it is proving to be quite a liability since it completely screws up the schedule for everyone.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:09 pm to twk
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LSU vs. Texas A&M (buried at 11 a.m. in favor of TSIO): 2.8
TSIO, ESPN Primetime: 2.6
MOTHERfrickING BOOM
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:11 pm to 10888bge
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All of the rivalries listed above are better than TSIO.
Wow. Oldest=Better? Not necessarily.
Whoever did the informal poll, go back and ask if they're familiar with Alabama vs Tennessee rivalry. TTSIO title is insignificant. It's the rivalry game between the two most prestigious SEC schools. I don't expect people outside the south to know the significance of the physical date, but I guarantee you they know of that particular game.
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The only reason TSIO is going to stay put is that UA is a participant.
You may be onto something...
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:12 pm to twk
Link for the ratings please?
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