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re: Tennessee can beat Ole Miss
Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:13 am to VivaZapata27
Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:13 am to VivaZapata27
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It’s mainly struggled to get big backs on the ground. Arkansas quickly moved away from Smith and to Sanders and the other big back because we can’t tackle them. We need bigger, more physical safeties and backers. We are also tiring because we have zero depth anywhere. There’s nothing wrong with this scheme when it has enough SEC players in
Tennessee has some big dudes running the ball.
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Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:16 am to OrangeEmpire
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OrangeEmpire
I haven't watched Tennessee this season. I know your offense seems to be clicking right now. How about your defense? Should we expect another Big12 game like Arkansas/Ole Miss was or do the Vols have the horses on D to slow Ole Miss down?
Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:18 am to Tornado Alley
Yeah, their best back goes about 220. We need springer back in a bad way.
This post was edited on 10/12/21 at 9:20 am
Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:20 am to Maytheporkbewithyou
It feels kind of like a trap game for Ole Miss. Saturday just proved that our defense was too far gone to fix in one season with a couple of JUCOs. If Corral continues to play at the level he's playing at, I think Ole Miss wins by 10-14 but if he has a bad day, UT could win comfortably.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:20 am to Maytheporkbewithyou
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I haven't watched Tennessee this season. I know your offense seems to be clicking right now. How about your defense? Should we expect another Big12 game like Arkansas/Ole Miss was or do the Vols have the horses on D to slow Ole Miss down?
Tennessee has played an easier schedule, but their rushing defense appears to be better than the Rebs' (which is not saying much). The two teams' passing defenses are relatively evenly matched:
completion percentage - 63.1% for Vols and 64.1% for Rebs
yards/game - 232.2 for Vols and 238.6 for Rebs
opposing QB rating - 121 for Vols and 140 for Rebs
TD/INT ratio - 7/7 for Vols and 9/3 for Rebs
Tennessee has 16 sacks on the season and the Rebs have 13. Both teams are even on 3rd down conversions (38% for both defenses). The redzone defense statistics are similar too.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:20 am to Maytheporkbewithyou
There are no horses on defense and what is there has no viable backups to provide any thing that could resemble depth.
If you have a power running game the defense will simply wear out in the second half as Florida proved.
If you have a power running game the defense will simply wear out in the second half as Florida proved.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:20 am to Quicksilver
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It feels kind of like a trap game for Ole Miss.
I don't think it's a trap game at all. We are barely favored.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:22 am to hawgfaninc
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Tennessee can beat Ole Miss
Absolutely, no doubt the way our defense plays.
We made your TE playing QB look like a Heisman candidate after all.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:27 am to OrangeEmpire
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here are no horses on defense and what is there has no viable backups to provide any thing that could resemble depth.
Will be an absolute blood bath.
Wildly entertaining offense ball isn't even fun to watch anymore because of the absolute butt hole defense we drag out there. It's pathetic.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:29 am to hawgfaninc
Wow, Pig fans are now living vicariously through Tennessee fans. Sad state of affairs 
Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:34 am to hawgfaninc
I'll admit, bullying Tennessee is a lot more fun when they care.
"The Gang Broke Sweet UT"
"The Gang Broke Sweet UT"
This post was edited on 10/12/21 at 9:35 am
Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:49 am to hawgfaninc
He seemingly is changing the culture for the vols. Josh is going to be a good coach but it remains to be seen if he is going to be a great coach, but I am pulling for him. Besides the obvious reason because of the dysfunction the Vols have had to put up with in recent history. They were a school before their men made their state known as the Volunteers. Of course, they love football.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:52 am to NorthPark
Posted on 10/12/21 at 10:25 am to TrueLefty
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yes with all that talents! Beat on others with a lot less talents! That is why other need to recruit a lot better. Drinkwitz is doing that. Odom couldn't recruit and wasn't a good HC. I am not worry about it. Go the Kentucky route. Build the football program the right way. Get the recruits all onto the field at the same time. Not just any recruits. Better recruits. It probably take about 2 to 3 more years. It depends on how Drinkwitz do on recruiting next year. I will still support the team this year and next year no matter what. Just get the right players.
Are you tripping this morning?
Posted on 10/12/21 at 10:40 am to VivaZapata27
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It’s mainly struggled to get big backs on the ground. Arkansas quickly moved away from Smith and to Sanders and the other big back because we can’t tackle them. We need bigger, more physical safeties and backers. We are also tiring because we have zero depth anywhere. There’s nothing wrong with this scheme when it has enough SEC players in it.
Agree that our issues transcend the scheme; we have talent and depth issues at this point for which no scheme can fully compensate. However, I think with so much personnel in the backfield, you're basically saying we don't want to give up big plays. It's essentially a prevent defense. I think if you've got the linemen, a 4-2-5 does most of the same stuff be helps you against running teams.
IMO, we saw this against Arkansas last season, recognized it as an Achilles heel for the offense, then made it the base defense so the offense could practice against it all of the time. We don't just run it so that the defense will be good--we run it to make the offense better through practice. It's a bend-don't-break defense at best.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 10:43 am to NaturalStateReb
I think Durkin will be looking for another job after this season.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 11:08 am to hawgfaninc
So, by that logic, UT > Arkansas?
Posted on 10/12/21 at 11:10 am to hawgfaninc
Arkansas can beat Ole Miss
Lol jk
Lol jk
Posted on 10/12/21 at 11:32 am to Tornado Alley
It's really interesting to see how similar the two teams are statistically.
Conference/National comparison:
Scoring Offense (OM #1(SEC), #4(Nationally) / UT #3, #7)
Rushing Offense (OM #2, #5 / UT #3, #6)
Quarterback efficiency (OM #2, #6 / UT #1, #5)
Turn over margin (OM #1, #9 / UT #4, #33)
Are all really close. There's a few things that each team does better than the other in other areas on both sides of the ball.
Passing Offense: (OM #3, #19 / UT #10, #81)
OM is 60 teams ahead of UT in passing offense.
Total offense: OM #2 / UT #19 nationally
Ole Miss is on average throwing for 80~ yards a game more than UT and a big reason the OM Offense is so much fun to watch with Corral. We have been efficient, but aren't as explosive with airing it out and taking the top off the defense.
Rush Defense: (OM #12, #108 / UT #7 , #30)
Tennessee is 78 teams ahead of Ole Miss in Rushing defense.
Total defense: OM #102 - UT #46
Ole Miss is on average giving up 193~ yards per game on the ground to Tennessee's 112~. Tennessee's front 7 has done a fairly job at defending the run this season.
Making plays in the backfield:
Sacks: (OM #9 , OM #55 / UT #8, UT #44)
Tackles for loss: (OM #11, #81 / UT #1, #2)
Sack numbers are really close. Both teams just separated by 1. The major difference is in TFLs. Tennessee is #2 in the country at blowing up plays behind the LOS. Forcing almost 9 TFL per game.
In summary: Offensively these teams are very close to each other in regards to scoring and running the ball. Ole Miss has a big edge in passing.
Both teams run the ball very well.
Defensively these teams are pretty far apart statistically. Tennessee's rush defense in particular and ability to disrupt the LOS and get in the backfield has a big edge over what Durkin has been able to scheme up, up to this point.
Both teams struggle with pass defense.
This one should have a lot of fireworks with 2 teams that have a lot of similarities. Add in Kiffin returning to Knoxville for a night game and this thing has a lot of potential entertainment on and off the field.
Conference/National comparison:
Scoring Offense (OM #1(SEC), #4(Nationally) / UT #3, #7)
Rushing Offense (OM #2, #5 / UT #3, #6)
Quarterback efficiency (OM #2, #6 / UT #1, #5)
Turn over margin (OM #1, #9 / UT #4, #33)
Are all really close. There's a few things that each team does better than the other in other areas on both sides of the ball.
Passing Offense: (OM #3, #19 / UT #10, #81)
OM is 60 teams ahead of UT in passing offense.
Total offense: OM #2 / UT #19 nationally
Ole Miss is on average throwing for 80~ yards a game more than UT and a big reason the OM Offense is so much fun to watch with Corral. We have been efficient, but aren't as explosive with airing it out and taking the top off the defense.
Rush Defense: (OM #12, #108 / UT #7 , #30)
Tennessee is 78 teams ahead of Ole Miss in Rushing defense.
Total defense: OM #102 - UT #46
Ole Miss is on average giving up 193~ yards per game on the ground to Tennessee's 112~. Tennessee's front 7 has done a fairly job at defending the run this season.
Making plays in the backfield:
Sacks: (OM #9 , OM #55 / UT #8, UT #44)
Tackles for loss: (OM #11, #81 / UT #1, #2)
Sack numbers are really close. Both teams just separated by 1. The major difference is in TFLs. Tennessee is #2 in the country at blowing up plays behind the LOS. Forcing almost 9 TFL per game.
In summary: Offensively these teams are very close to each other in regards to scoring and running the ball. Ole Miss has a big edge in passing.
Both teams run the ball very well.
Defensively these teams are pretty far apart statistically. Tennessee's rush defense in particular and ability to disrupt the LOS and get in the backfield has a big edge over what Durkin has been able to scheme up, up to this point.
Both teams struggle with pass defense.
This one should have a lot of fireworks with 2 teams that have a lot of similarities. Add in Kiffin returning to Knoxville for a night game and this thing has a lot of potential entertainment on and off the field.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 11:36 am to hawgfaninc
The reality check...Tennessee's defense cannot contain a quarterback that is any rushing threat. That is the Achilles heel that could be the difference maker for Ole Miss.
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