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re: Spinoff: 10 Worst SEC coaching hires since 1992 expansion
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:40 pm to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:40 pm to Tuscaloosa
Having DiNardo on your list is not award winning material baw
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Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:09 pm to Jack Ruby
Tony Barbee...and you REALLY have to suck to be considered the worst Auburn basketball coach in the last 30 years
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:27 pm to coachcrisp
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If Alabama's hiring of Mike Price wasn't the worst, I can't wait to see who beat him!
Chad, Chad has to be the top of the list.
Honestly I would put the previous 3 hires as bad hires.
John L Smith, Bart Bielema, and Chad
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:32 pm to FayetteNAM
Those Franchione/Price days were some internet message board gold 20 years ago. (geez...has it been THAT long?)
The days of eagerly waiting for the Fridays With Fran site updates...good times lol.
Hold the rope!!!
The days of eagerly waiting for the Fridays With Fran site updates...good times lol.
Hold the rope!!!
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:57 pm to Godawgs4
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Croom was a actually a very good hire.
Croom helped clean the closet, but was a disaster for the offense. Eventually he settled in for mediocrity, and so did MSU for a bit.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 10:03 pm to OrangeEmpire
I mean Butch wasn’t championship caliber but come on the dude won 9 games back to back. That’s not bad. I don’t see why all Vols fans trash him so much. He was good not good enough. Fired him. Moved on.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 10:14 pm to Sun God
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Having DiNardo on your list is not award winning material baw
You guys have romanticized his tenure because he followed Hallman and was replaced by Saban. He was .570 during his time at LSU. That’s 2nd worst behind only Hallman over the last 40ish years - and seeing what the next 3 coaches were able to do puts that into perspective, IMO.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 10:20 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Gerry DiNardo
Nah
Posted on 3/31/21 at 10:27 pm to Tuscaloosa
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You guys have romanticized his tenure because he followed Hallman
Yes.
Hallman was shite.
Stallings let him win one out of pity.
Even if Saban had never been born, DiNardo wouldn't be in the bottom 10.
I agree with you about Dubose.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 10:52 pm to Jack Ruby
Here are the top 5 worst hires since expansion. Note these aren’t the worst coaches, just the worst hires on paper the time of the hire:
1. Derek Dooley - was a losing coach at a lower Louisiana school. Had no reason to be hired other than his last name, and I think it was him that damaged Tenn beyond repair.
2. Will Muschamp at USC- him being hired at UF wasn’t crazy as he was a good coordinator at Texas, but then when USC saw that failure and thought “maybe he will do better at a worse program in the same division” they made a hire that was indefensible.
3. Sam Pittman - he is working out, but Arky not being able to hire a candidate that was at least a coordinator at one time was embarrassing because it was obvious that cycle that they were being passed over. Worse than Coach O because Coach O had some good interim head coaching results and was a head coach once. Coach O would make a top 10 list though.
4. Jeremy Pruitt - getting a coordinator from a dynasty isn’t bad. But the way this hire went down with the fan revolt was crazy. Plus he gets some bonus points for by far the most bizarre firing in the modern SEC era.
5. Chad Morris - his record at SMU sucked. He was riding the reputation of being a pretty good coordinator at Clemson right before they went elite. It was the hire that set Arky back half a decade at least.
1. Derek Dooley - was a losing coach at a lower Louisiana school. Had no reason to be hired other than his last name, and I think it was him that damaged Tenn beyond repair.
2. Will Muschamp at USC- him being hired at UF wasn’t crazy as he was a good coordinator at Texas, but then when USC saw that failure and thought “maybe he will do better at a worse program in the same division” they made a hire that was indefensible.
3. Sam Pittman - he is working out, but Arky not being able to hire a candidate that was at least a coordinator at one time was embarrassing because it was obvious that cycle that they were being passed over. Worse than Coach O because Coach O had some good interim head coaching results and was a head coach once. Coach O would make a top 10 list though.
4. Jeremy Pruitt - getting a coordinator from a dynasty isn’t bad. But the way this hire went down with the fan revolt was crazy. Plus he gets some bonus points for by far the most bizarre firing in the modern SEC era.
5. Chad Morris - his record at SMU sucked. He was riding the reputation of being a pretty good coordinator at Clemson right before they went elite. It was the hire that set Arky back half a decade at least.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 10:56 pm to Audioman213
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He took us to the SECCG but McElwain is viewed far worse than Muschamp or Zook in the eyes of Gator fans
I'd have to agree with gator fans on that. Never understood that hire from day one. Then he did so many things to alienate himself from the fans and SEC culture.....like fricking a shark.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:09 pm to Tuscaloosa
Zook was the biggest head scratcher to me at least when they first hired him. Matt Luke was one also. Coach O at Ole Miss at least recruited well.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 12:13 am to TailbackU
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Tony Barbee...and you REALLY have to suck to be considered the worst Auburn basketball coach in the last 30 years
This is true.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 12:19 am to BrerTiger
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The Booty brothers were a disaster.
They were good players. Abram put up some good numbers under Dinardo, and was a good receiver, but apparently he couldn't take it when Saban totally lost it on his brother, Josh, in the locker room after Josh ignored Jimbo, and called a play from their Evangel days on the last play of the game against UAB, only to throw an interception before losing, so Abram ended up quitting.
Rohan Davey started the next game, a win against Tennessee, a national power at the time, and that was when we knew we had something with Saban. Eventually, Saban would need Josh again after Rohan got hurt, and he ended up having a decent year as a qb in 2001.
Regarding Dinardo, I agree with the posters who say he was remembered fondly. Before him, Louisiana's best players all went out of state to play, and would become stars elsewhere, so landing Kevin Faulk, who was the number one player in America at the time, was huge.
Gerry was credited with "bringing back the magic" to Tiger Stadium. He didn't end well, but considering how terrible things were prior, his time at LSU was a success. Prior to him, nobody wanted to come to LSU. It was known as a "coach's graveyard," so he was the best we were able to do at the time. Our AD, Joe Dean, was incompetent, so his top two choices were Pat Sullivan and Dinardo. I think Sullivan spurned us for TCU, if I am not mistaken.
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 10:08 am
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:18 am to cardboardboxer
Dollar Store Dave Hart and the incompetent AD that has followed damaged Tennessee for the foreseeable future.
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 4:21 am
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:42 am to turnpiketiger
It's been talked about to death on the board so I guess it will be highlights of Captain Pitch Man.
Dollar Store Dave stole Butch Colorado. Remember, Colorado was Butch's dream job. Miraculously, the following day, Butch announced that Tennessee had been his dream job all along. This was all to his wife's confusion, her face was priceless.
Coaching was all about the periphery. It was handing out bricks and weekly slogans. Remember Butch's Maxims. 1. Friday prep rally with weekly slogan. 2. The Volwalk. 3. Running through the T.
Seriously though, those 9 win teams you mentioned were legacy laden. More importantly the quarterback was Josh Dobbs and Dobbs covered up a lot but not all of Butch's coaching weaknesses. The 2016 team was going to tell Volnation what Butch was going to be as a head coach and he lost 4 games with that team.
I could go on about recruiting and what happened when Dobbs walked away but we'll see if you come back or another person adds to the discussion and we get a run off in the thread.
Dollar Store Dave stole Butch Colorado. Remember, Colorado was Butch's dream job. Miraculously, the following day, Butch announced that Tennessee had been his dream job all along. This was all to his wife's confusion, her face was priceless.
Coaching was all about the periphery. It was handing out bricks and weekly slogans. Remember Butch's Maxims. 1. Friday prep rally with weekly slogan. 2. The Volwalk. 3. Running through the T.
Seriously though, those 9 win teams you mentioned were legacy laden. More importantly the quarterback was Josh Dobbs and Dobbs covered up a lot but not all of Butch's coaching weaknesses. The 2016 team was going to tell Volnation what Butch was going to be as a head coach and he lost 4 games with that team.
I could go on about recruiting and what happened when Dobbs walked away but we'll see if you come back or another person adds to the discussion and we get a run off in the thread.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 5:12 am to IAmNERD
Zook was a good recruiter and tried hard but wasn't a great game day coach.
Muschamp was too inexperienced and also too stubborn on the offensive side. Frankly, I thought he would do better at SC.
Mcelwain was kind of an arse but did have a good start. He was weird tbh.
Muschamp was too inexperienced and also too stubborn on the offensive side. Frankly, I thought he would do better at SC.
Mcelwain was kind of an arse but did have a good start. He was weird tbh.
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 5:12 am
Posted on 4/1/21 at 5:48 am to BrerTiger
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What DiNardo did his first three seasons was unthinkable after 6 years of losing seasons.
I love how at the exact moment you were writing this, another Bama fan put DiNardo at the top of his list in the post below yours.
Most LSU fans hold DiNardo in very high regard for what he was able to do. His loyalty to Tepper was his undoing.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 5:50 am to Jack Ruby
Can't remember when Ray Goff was hired but he needs to be in the conversation!
Posted on 4/1/21 at 5:52 am to BrerTiger
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It's too bad that Curley Hallman doesn't qualify.
Indeed, he was only saved by the specified date range. He would easily belong at the top of this list if not for that.
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