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re: SOURCE says SEC & BIG 10 will have 20 or more members.

Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:33 pm to
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Eyes to TV = money


I tend to avoid watching Kansas football and nobody cares about Miami anymore
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22668 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:33 pm to
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SOURCE says SEC & BIG 10 will have 20 or more members.
People need to look at the old Southern Conference

The conference was formed on February 25, 1921 in Atlanta as fourteen member institutions split from the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association.[1] Southern Conference charter members were Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi State, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and Washington & Lee. In 1922, six more universities – Florida, LSU, Mississippi, South Carolina, Tulane, and Vanderbilt joined the conference. The first year of competition for the conference was in 1922, effective January 1.[9][10] The new rules banned freshman play.[11] Later additions included Sewanee (1924), Virginia Military Institute (1924), and Duke (1929).

The SoCon is particularly notable for having spawned two other major conferences. In 1932, the 13 schools located south and west of the Appalachians (Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi State, University of the South (Sewanee), Tennessee, Tulane, and Vanderbilt) all departed the SoCon to form the Southeastern Conference (SEC). In 1953, seven additional schools (Clemson, Duke, Maryland, North Carolina, North Carolina State, South Carolina, and Wake Forest) withdrew from the SoCon to form the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC)

It got to big and broke in two.
If we are not careful, same thing will happen



Probably I'm going to lose a debate with a Notre Dame fan about 5 years ago. Hell, might have been longer than that.

Long story short: He told me all conferences eventually fall apart, and I thought the SEC would never be dumb enough to do the things required for that to happen.

And then here we go adding in large amounts of teams, the very thing that would lead to such a thing.

I really fricking hate Sankey.
Posted by Porcine Human
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11220 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:34 pm to
Kansas still has a lot of pull because of their basketball prestige
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33077 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:35 pm to
He’s only added Texas and Ou which are solid additions. Now if he adds Miami or Kansas then I agree.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31042 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:35 pm to
how the frick does kansas add eyes on the tv? they suck except basketball. if you are going to do that, just take duke. frick kansas


all of this is sickening but if we had to choose

clemson
maimi
north carolina
virgina tech

but unc isnt coming without nc state and duke plus they hate the sec

maimi will want fsu to come

usc will have issues with clemson

its a cluster frick. hate all of this. go back to 10.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33077 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:36 pm to
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Kansas still has a lot of pull because of their basketball prestige


This is about football and academics. If basketball was the target then I would agree
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49264 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:39 pm to
Have no problem bringing Tech back to the SEC, Vandy needs someone to beat up on
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
1912 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:43 pm to
So Larry Scott's refusal to let Texas keep the LHN looks like will end up either seeing the conference be relegated or at best lose two of their most valuable schools...

Realignment is wild and it looks like on the SEC and B10 have actually thought this out long term.
Posted by jumpstart
Member since Jun 2018
919 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:50 pm to
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whats the sec counter move now?
With the low Pac-12 buyout So Cal and Oregon make the most sense and it taps a huge TV market in California and the Pacific North West....
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
11134 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:51 pm to
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It got to big and broke in two.
If we are not careful, same thing will happen
There was no media $ backing or driving the merging or splitting of conferences back then.

The OG SEC schools split off from the OG SoCon because of geography.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26958 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:02 pm to
So we're starting threads because someone named Nicole Auerbach says she talked to someone in the phone?
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2122 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:04 pm to
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People need to look at the old Southern Conference

The conference was formed on February 25, 1921 in Atlanta as fourteen member institutions split from the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association.[1] Southern Conference charter members were Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi State, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and Washington & Lee. In 1922, six more universities – Florida, LSU, Mississippi, South Carolina, Tulane, and Vanderbilt joined the conference. The first year of competition for the conference was in 1922, effective January 1.[9][10] The new rules banned freshman play.[11] Later additions included Sewanee (1924), Virginia Military Institute (1924), and Duke (1929).

The SoCon is particularly notable for having spawned two other major conferences. In 1932, the 13 schools located south and west of the Appalachians (Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi State, University of the South (Sewanee), Tennessee, Tulane, and Vanderbilt) all departed the SoCon to form the Southeastern Conference (SEC). In 1953, seven additional schools (Clemson, Duke, Maryland, North Carolina, North Carolina State, South Carolina, and Wake Forest) withdrew from the SoCon to form the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC)

It got to big and broke in two.
If we are not careful, same thing will happen
This. The size of a conference is effectively limited by the length of the football schedule. If you don't play someone regularly, you aren't really in the same conference with them. That's why the SEC is trying to revamp the schedule. Adding more members, beyond 16, makes that harder to accomplish.
Posted by HogPharmer
Member since Jun 2022
1270 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:07 pm to
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The future SEC won baseball and softball titles just this last two weeks.


Wut?
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:19 pm to
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If we’re gonna take another Florida school it should be FSU



FSU had their chance. screw them.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:23 pm to
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Miami and Kansas both add eyes to TV.


Neither provide a long term viable TV market or add anything for viewing over what we already have.

Kansas does well for BBall but outside of that not so well. Miami has a great market if the team is doing well just LA teams. When the teams both Pro and college are not doing well no one cares. Plus FSU would be a better added value if the SEC were going to add another FL team.

VT has a large alumni base in DMV area which is a top 10 market for FBS TV. NC State same for Raleigh and Charlotte both top 20 or TV markets. Adding those 2 schools alone would grab the I95 corridor market all the way into Maryland.

I also think WVU would be a good addition as it would build regional rivals in surrounding large TV markets.

Clemson looks nice on paper but they would add very little for a TV market especially considering the SEC is already strong in areas they generate interest. Same for GT and Louisville.

a&m when added not only brought the SEC into Texas via large media presence it also opened the gates for many SEC schools outside of LSU(who was already there) in recruiting.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
11134 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:28 pm to
If we are moving to NFL-like conferences, might as well get ahead of the curve and add Miami, FSU, GTU, Clemson, UVA, VT, Louisville, and the 4x North Carolina schools.

I know 27 is a hard number to plan or schedule around but obligatory kick out Mizzou comment goes here and go with 26.

(Just kidding Mizzou baws)
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9464 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:30 pm to
The SEC at 16 is significantly stronger than the Big Ten + USC & UCLA. The SEC almost has a logical, contiguous geographic footprint that is still important for non-revenue sports (in before Mizzou doesn't fit).

But it makes sense that the Big Ten will add more west coast teams so that it can have a full division out there to avoid horrible travel and match-up issues.

I'm guessing Washington, Oregon, Notre Dame, and ? will be joining the Big Ten. That would allow a West Coast Pod/Division of Washington, Oregon, UCLA, and USC.

Given the likelihood of some version of that occurring, I have to imagine there are a lot of calls being exchanged between the SEC and ACC schools right now. I'm guessing Florida State, Clemson, UNC, and UVA (or VT) are about to be joining the SEC.

From there, I'm guessing the PAC and ACC pick apart the Big 12.
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 2:32 pm
Posted by SOBMarcus
San Marcos
Member since Apr 2020
1405 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:31 pm to
shite, it has been decided, is what we do not need to do.
Posted by jfan244888
Soda City, SC
Member since Jul 2021
834 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:34 pm to
North Carolina
NCST
UVA
VT

Will be added at some point.
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18118 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:35 pm to
I suspect the PAC-12 will absorb 4-6 of the bigger Big 12 schools (Texas Tech, OK State, Kansas, Kansas St, Iowa St, Baylor). The ACC may pick up WVA and make a play for Notre Dame.
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