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So we're kicking LSU out for trying to cheat like every SEC school, but Pedo State is still a respectable member of the B1G? I don't get it. Fine LSU or something, but kicking them out of the SEC for this seems insane. And like it or not, programs like LSU do not grow on trees. They're a cornerstone of the conference.
"Blue blood" USC on a hot Saturday against San Jose State:



Mizzou on a similarly hot Thursday against an FCS school:


Of course, it means they've made it to the pros already.
If LSU gets kicked out of the SEC, will y'all still host the SEC Rant? Monster Big 12 Rant just doesn't have the same ring to it.
Despite how ridiculous and farfetched the headline is, I'm just here to enjoy a post involving kicking an SEC school out that isn't Mizzou.
He is the competition to SEC Shorts, but actually consistently funny.
If it was Mizzou who had hired Lane Kiffin and Will Wade and its athletic department was acting like LSU's is right now, all the baws would be screaming to kick Mizzou out of the conference. Well, more than they normally do.
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Well in order for there to be conference only governance, you need enforceable rules, which doesn't seem particularly likely at the moment.

I think that's the point. You might have your cart in front of the horse. An SEC ticket sure is valuable. If its rules were uniquely enforceable, might get some baws' behavior back in line.
The young bucks don't understand what Pinkel and Brad Smith beating Nebraska in 2003 did for our program. I doubt we're in the SEC today if not for them.
Good. This situation sort of reminds me of getting together with the neighborhood dads and drinking beers on the back deck while the kids run wild. As the day goes on, they get more out of control. But we let most of it slide because they're having fun and we're just trying to enjoy the weekend. Eventually, usually a couple of the boys, take it one step too far and we have to put the beers down and intervene. LSU is one of the usual suspects to take the fun one step too far and spoil it for the bunch.
Ole Miss 7-1 (.875)
Arkansas 13-4 (.76)
Vanderbilt 12-5-1 (.71)
Mississippi State 4-2 (.667)
South Carolina 10-6 (.625)
Florida 7-6 (.538)

Tennessee 6-6 (.500)
Auburn 3-3 (.500)
LSU 2-2 (.500)

Texas A&M 7-11 (.389)
Kentucky 5-9 (.357)
Texas 9-18-1 (.339)
Oklahoma 25-68-5 (.281)
Alabama 2-7 (.222)
Georgia 1-12 (.077)
I’m not rooting for it, but it’s probably inevitable, one last time.

SEC Expansion Target Rankings

Posted by BreakawayZou83 on 8/14/26 at 12:08 pm
Shameless spinoff thread. I was curious what this looks like without heavy weight on tv ratings, and and attempt to factor in "fit".

I created seven categories, each with a weight assigned:

1. Distance from geographic center of SEC (Houston, MS): 15%
2. Number of games played all-time against current SEC members: 15%
3. 2025 athletic revenue: 20%
4. 2025 attendance: 10%
5. 2025 stadium capacity percentage: 10%
6. Top 25 AP poll finishes, 2000- present: 15%
7. Weeks all-time in the Top 25 AP poll: 15%

Here are the results:


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Colorado scores big because they've been bringing the eyeballs to the TV under Dion. They rank 24th in TV viewership the past 10 seasons but since Dion came those numbers are much higher.

In 2023, Colorado was 4th nationally in regular season TV viewership behind only Ohio State, Alabama, and Michigan. In 2024 they fell slightly to 6th... behind same 3 schools plus Georgia and Texas. In 2025 they fell back to 16th... but still ahead of programs like Clemson, USC, Texas A&M, Penn State, etc.

The Dion factor seems to be fading a bit, and there's no guarantee that Colorado will have as much allure once he leaves, but there is no denying that the Buffs have been a major tv draw these past few years.


This is exactly my point. Your formula, with 50% weighted by tv ratings, basically turns this into ranking the candidates by tv ratings rather than quantifying value of the expansion candidates at they would exist in the SEC.

Let's play this out: Colorado joins the SEC. North Carolina joins the the SEC. Let's assume we're stuck with the same tv deal we have now. How often is Colorado going to play on ABC or ESPN? Probably not often. Certainly not significantly more often than North Carolina. Their tv ratings would likely flatten as a result (as you acknowledge, most of Colorado's was a flash in the pan Deion-driven hype that is fading). So who is the better fit? Which program are the majority of SEC fans more excited to play?

Colorado is great school, and Boulder is a great town. I'd selfishly love Colorado in the SEC (fun fact: when Mizzou left the Big 12, Mizzou-Colorado was Colorado's most played series of all-time). But y'all think we are a strange, midwestern fit. Boulder, Colorado has far more in common with Los Angeles than with Oxford, MS.

I think you need to re-calibrate the tv weight of the ratings, and add a fit metric. Then you've really got something.

Still, nice work taking the time to actually try to quantify this instead of another "Clemson should never be in the SEC lol" or "Virginia is not Southern enough and they don't care about football".
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There's just not much dead weight other than Vandy. Even MSU ranks well ahead of four BIG 10 programs.

In hindsight, adding Clemson back in 1992 rather than South Carolina would have been a better call, but what's done is done. Florida State would have been great too but they passed on the opportunity.


There's not and the other thing to keep in mind is that the current SEC TV deal actually kind of throttles the lower half of the conference in this metric that very heavily weights tv ratings.

Take this comparison: Notre Dame, even when they're bad, get a free giant rating because every single game is on NBC. It's basically impossible, even if the two worst FBS programs are going at each other, to have a lower rating on NBC than two great teams playing on SEC Network or even say ESPN 2.

So a really fun slugfest between say 5-3 Ole Miss and 4-4 South Carolina is relegated to the SEC Network or ESPN 2 at 11am. If that game had the opportunity to be on ABC in primetime, it would do great ratings.

But the SEC only has a handful of primetime network slots each week:

ABC: 1-3 games (big ratings guaranteed)

ESPN / ESPN2 / ESPNU: 3-6 games (can still see big ratings on ESPN, basically impossible on ESPN2 / ESPNU)

SEC Network / digital only: 1-3 games (guaranteed shite ratings to tank your average)

So a genuinely competitive, fun, middle of the pack SEC team is going to get weighed down in ratings because it rarely gets on a national network. Since the SEC is the deepest conference, but has no more national tv slots than the B1G or the ACC or the Big 12, its sinks its own middle class and lower class teams.

To put that in perspective, Mizzou appeared on national television twice last season. Texas appeared on national television seven times. Notre Dame appeared 10 times (with one game on Peacock and one on ESPN).

Of course Mizzou's tv ratings look like dog shite in comparison. They were relegated to SECN / ESPN2 / ESPNU / digital only broadcasts seven times.

If the SEC had a better tv deal and scheduled better, it would pump ratings even higher.
These chickens will come home to roost. I made a big post about this a few years ago, and I still maintain the premises: as we transition into a streaming era driven by high caliber match-ups and football-crazed fanbases, the SEC will pull ahead of the B1G. Sankey shot us in the foot a bit with the last tv contract, but I think he and Slive do deserve credit (despite what you hooligans think) for keeping the SEC competitive with a giant, national B1G, while still maintaining some sense of cultural/regional footprint that pins a bunch of football-crazed fanbases against each other.