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re: SOURCE says SEC & BIG 10 will have 20 or more members.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:37 pm to Landmass
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:37 pm to Landmass
The ACC cannot pick up anything without renegotiating their TV contract and GoR, I believe. Could be wrong about that. Also, apparently USC/UCLA is basically done. Could be announced as early as tomorrow
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:37 pm to Scoper
We're heading to two divisions, similar to the NFL. 32-36 teams each with the many in the Big 12, ACC, and PAC 12 being left out and relegated to a 2nd tier.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:37 pm to ColoradoAg
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The NCAA won't even exist in five years except as an extension of D2. The two mega-conferences will make their own rules
And one of the rules will be that boosters can't provide incentives to high school players to sign with and play for their team.
Any program that doesn't agree to those terms will be welcome to join another conference or be an independant.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:38 pm to Scoper
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whats the sec counter move now?
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notre dame
Now that's fricking funny.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:39 pm to BLG
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And one of the rules will be that boosters can't provide incentives to high school players to sign with and play for their team.
Any program that doesn't agree to those terms will be welcome to join another conference or be an independant.
The only positive with all this is the conferences and those aligned to play against each other will govern themselves and there will be a standard to adhere to or no more membership.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:40 pm to OleVaught14
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Eyes to TV = money.
Not true. Subscriptions add money. If it's part of the package they get paid whether people watch it or not. It's about TV sets and population base, not eyes.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:41 pm to BLG
quote:By then, it will literally be impossible to put the worms back in the can. Mini NFL with the AFC/NFC equivalents
And one of the rules will be that boosters can't provide incentives to high school players to sign with and play for their team.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:41 pm to twk
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This. The size of a conference is effectively limited by the length of the football schedule. If you don't play someone regularly, you aren't really in the same conference with them. That's why the SEC is trying to revamp the schedule. Adding more members, beyond 16, makes that harder to accomplish.
At some point, it just makes sense to go to 9 conference games, then 20 teams is fine. Assuming 4 divisions of 5 teams each, you would play home and away against every team in the conference every six years. That's a massive improvement over the current schedule, but it would necessarily ruin some long-time annual rivalries.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:42 pm to Scoper
By the time they're done with all their changes, I probably won't be a fan anymore. College Football was beautiful the way it was.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:43 pm to TideFaninFl
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People need to look at the old Southern Conference
The conference was formed on February 25, 1921 in Atlanta as fourteen member institutions split from the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association.[1] Southern Conference charter members were Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi State, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and Washington & Lee. In 1922, six more universities – Florida, LSU, Mississippi, South Carolina, Tulane, and Vanderbilt joined the conference. The first year of competition for the conference was in 1922, effective January 1.[9][10] The new rules banned freshman play.[11] Later additions included Sewanee (1924), Virginia Military Institute (1924), and Duke (1929).
The SoCon is particularly notable for having spawned two other major conferences. In 1932, the 13 schools located south and west of the Appalachians (Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi State, University of the South (Sewanee), Tennessee, Tulane, and Vanderbilt) all departed the SoCon to form the Southeastern Conference (SEC). In 1953, seven additional schools (Clemson, Duke, Maryland, North Carolina, North Carolina State, South Carolina, and Wake Forest) withdrew from the SoCon to form the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC)
It got to big and broke in two.
If we are not careful, same thing will happen
But the SEC breaking away was 90 years ago. It's a totally different situation now and it's all driven mostly by television revenue. Personally, though, I would also prefer the 10 or 12 team SEC.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:43 pm to jfan244888
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Will be added at some point.
You think Clemson and FSU will be passed over? I know Florida and SCAR won't be happy about their inclusion, but you can count on Aggy throwing a fit given the recent Texas addition.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:45 pm to ColoradoAg
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And one of the rules will be that boosters can't provide incentives to high school players to sign with and play for their team.
By then, it will literally be impossible to put the worms back in the can. Mini NFL with the AFC/NFC equivalents
Interesting that you mention the NFL, because the NFL has a salary cap and a draft to create parity, for the long term viability of it's league. The conferences won't limit NIL but there will be agreed upon regulations, even if it requires a collective bargaining agreement with incoming players, and for the same reason. Long term viability. If not, then hello minor league NFL.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 3:21 pm to Scoper
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georgia tech
The bumble bees barely have a pulse when it comes to sports. Hard pass.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 3:24 pm to BreakawayZou83
quote:Well, like I said, going beyond 16 makes it harder to accomplish. Now, 20 might be feasible, if you had the right 20, but I think 16 is better. Hell, I think 14 was better, and a lot of folks will say 12 was, or 10.
At some point, it just makes sense to go to 9 conference games, then 20 teams is fine. Assuming 4 divisions of 5 teams each, you would play home and away against every team in the conference every six years. That's a massive improvement over the current schedule, but it would necessarily ruin some long-time annual rivalries.
If a football season was 14 games, instead of 12, bigger conferences would be easier to deal with. It's just a matter of math. Just having everyone under the same conference TV contract doesn't really add that much value--it's the matchups that matter. And, when you have 20 teams with a 12 game schedule (9 conference games), you will not see a given matchup as often as you would with 16.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 3:26 pm to EasterEgg
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By the time they're done with all their changes, I probably won't be a fan anymore. College Football was beautiful the way it was.
The more college sports become like professional sports, the less interested I become. The lust for money ruins everything. It's a shame. I can see a day when my Saturdays in the fall are spent hiking the mountains rather than watching college football. Maybe that's the way it should be.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 3:28 pm to Scoper
Miami
FSU
Clemson
West Virginia (or NC)
FSU
Clemson
West Virginia (or NC)
Posted on 6/30/22 at 3:29 pm to BreakawayZou83
Heck, why not 10 games? 12?
We break away from the NCAA and then we make the rules for bowl eligibility, playoff eligibility etc.
Expand rosters to 100 to 110 scholarship players per team to poach the good players from the left behind schools.
Without NCAA we can do whatever we decide to do
We break away from the NCAA and then we make the rules for bowl eligibility, playoff eligibility etc.
Expand rosters to 100 to 110 scholarship players per team to poach the good players from the left behind schools.
Without NCAA we can do whatever we decide to do
Posted on 6/30/22 at 3:29 pm to Scoper
Arizona St, get Phoenix market
Posted on 6/30/22 at 3:33 pm to OleVaught14
ND is partically acc because of past run ins with the big, they will never join the big.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 3:34 pm to GumboPot
FSU
Clemson
NC
Pretty sure Miami would have to be included as well. That gets you to twenty right there w/ Miami
Clemson
NC
Pretty sure Miami would have to be included as well. That gets you to twenty right there w/ Miami
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