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re: No More Student Athletes @ Private Schools?

Posted on 12/16/22 at 6:50 am to
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 6:50 am to
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Do you root for any professional teams? If so, why?


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Not really



Ditto
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 7:14 am to
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College athletics has always been about connection to the team more than the players. It’s how a ton of the teams can have solid fanbases without ever fielding a championship caliber team.


Lol at the faux outrage ITT.

There’s zero connection between Saban’s process and the university. And nobody cares because he wins. If the players don’t show up to class on Thursday, or ever, nobody cares so long as they dominate on Saturdays.

At the highest level, they’re all hired hands. And we don’t care because all that matters is they have your logo on the side of the helmet and win.

Players being employees changes nothing about the current setup. The band will still play the same songs. People will still brag about how great “we” are. And $$$ will still pour in.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41281 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 7:45 am to
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Do you root for any professional teams? If so, why?


I don't. Other than the Cowboys and that is not because I like the Cowboys, it is because I like Jerry Jones, and I want to see him succeed.

College athletics needs to have all their athletes qualify like regular students and go back to competing with real college students and not kids who were never meant to be on a college campus. Take the stadiums back to 40k and get rid of the tv contracts.

The network money has been the driving factor in all of this. If coaches want to make millions of dollars per year they are going to have to coach in the NFL.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7277 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 7:56 am to
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No More Student Athletes @ Private Schools? by deeprig9
"Players should be compensated for their jersey sales and video game appearances"


Enjoy this, liberal idiot fricktards.


You don't believe if somebody "uses you" to make $, you shouldn't be entitled to compensation?
Posted by Deacon Reds
Member since Feb 2018
924 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 7:57 am to
Leave it to the left coast……
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7277 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:09 am to
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No More Student Athletes @ Private Schools? by TexasTiger08
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We want a 12 playoffs, okay so we are extending the season another 4-5 games? Trickles into Spring…no big deal…to us fans!


I don’t want a 12 team playoff. Since it’s happening, they should drop a cupcake game.

I can’t blame the athletes taking the hits for wanting their money. This clown show isn’t on them, rather our legislators and the NCAA.


The ONLY way for that to truely work would be if conferences & scheduling were identical for all...therefore eliminating those "unfair" debates.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8130 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:12 am to
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I’m brainstorming how to save college football

I'm afraid that ship has sailed.
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:21 am to
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Leave it to the left coast……


To call a spade a spade. The conference which operates the most like a semi-pro league is the one wanting to keep pretending these kids aren’t university employees. Every hour of their week is dictated by the university winning on Saturdays.
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16166 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:28 am to
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Free labor is about as liberal as it gets.



It was never free. The school was giving these young men education, and all the training they'd need to have a chance at the NFL. Not mention all the other benefits of being an athlete at a university. "Free", gtfoh.
Posted by Shocco
Member since Nov 2015
1525 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:47 am to
And judging by history, anyone who thinks colleges can do a better job of trying to funnel a minor league football league through universities so they can make money from it is insane. Let the NFL run that minor league like baseball so it can be run correctly.
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
3949 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 9:08 am to
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anyone who thinks colleges can do a better job of trying to funnel a minor league football league through universities so they can make money from it is insane.


Literally what they’re doing right now. Students attend, alumni give, merchandise is sold, and billions in TV revenue all because of football players. They prop up a ton more than people think.
Posted by Pulpwood Patterson
Member since Dec 2017
1799 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:14 am to
You’re under the impression that the average untrained eye can tell the difference between a 3 star and 5 star player. The only way you can differentiate play quality is to relativize it by dramatically contrasted abilities.

There are few if any semi pro leagues that are popular or make money.

It is undeniable that their is a demarcation and a point of diminishing interest in CFB.

You can ignore the rules of chess, but you can’t do so and continue to play chess.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1765 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:22 am to
Remind me what the vote was in the Supreme Court in 2021 on the athlete compensation case? (9-0)

Remind me who wrote that opinion? (That dangerous Trotskyite Gorsuch.)

Remind me who wrote the concurring opinion saying the NCAA was “operating above the law.” (That radical Leninist Kavanaugh.)

People can knee-jerk make this about the liberal-conservative red-blue divide if they want to, but that has zilch to do with this.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1765 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:27 am to
What is happening today is the natural progression of so much money coming into the sport. It was inevitable that the players would want a place at that trough. And the frustrating thing for college fans is that their interests and desires are not being considered, and it’s unfortunately not very likely that their interests and desires will be considered.
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 10:28 am
Posted by CedarChest
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Member since Jun 2020
2781 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:34 am to
Anyone who didn't see this train coming down the track a looong time ago is willfully blind.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10318 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:57 am to
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NCAA will be granted the rights of employees, including the freedom to create unions.


So players who don't care about their teammates enough to not opt out of bowl games to avoid pre-draft injuries or enter the transfer portal to enhance their personal path for success are going to forego a paycheck from their "employer" and NIL compensation and walk a picket line for those teammates?
Posted by Pecker
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Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:24 pm to
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Each school has their own semi-pro team? Kids that don’t go pro, go to school after? Idk I’m brainstorming how to save college football
. I don't love it but this is not a crazy thing to solve for. There is a European-style club system that would work just fine with colleges.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25522 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:34 pm to
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There’s zero connection between Saban’s process and the university. And nobody cares because he wins. If the players don’t show up to class on Thursday, or ever, nobody cares so long as they dominate on Saturdays.


Right, but it’s the perception that there’s a connection that fuels fanbases. And if we are being honest, they aren’t all hired hands. Plenty of athletes are going to the in state school regardless, plenty know they won’t have a pro football career.

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And we don’t care because all that matters is they have your logo on the side of the helmet and win. Players being employees changes nothing about the current setup. The band will still play the same songs. People will still brag about how great “we” are. And $$$ will still pour in.


You’re just confirming the fact that D3 guys wearing Alabama or Georgia uniforms will still pack the house so long as the competitive playing field is the same.
Posted by Deacon Reds
Member since Feb 2018
924 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 2:47 pm to
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quote:Leave it to the left coast…… To call a spade a spade. The conference which operates the most like a semi-pro league is the one wanting to keep pretending these kids aren’t university employees. Every hour of their week is dictated by the university winning on Saturdays.


Then let’s go back to the purpose of having student athletes. Force the NFL and NBA to have minor leagues and get colleges out of the paid for play business. Harvard and Yale will be competitive with anyone again.
Posted by Enzos Tiny Pito
Member since Oct 2019
1847 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 4:02 pm to
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Aren’t they already?


Yes or at least with video games they would be if that frick O'Bannon didn't ruin them
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