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re: No More Student Athletes @ Private Schools?
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:50 pm to JayAg
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:50 pm to JayAg
The NLRB has been pushing this now for a while. The left and the NLRB are getting support from the unions who are big donors to one side of the aisle.
Because the NLRB knows the only state that will support their cause is California. Go figure
This is what I cal BS. The moment they become employees colleges will no longer treat them as students. They will not retain any student status granted to them as a scholarship player because they will no longer offer them scholarships. They will basically hire them to come play in those three head count sports.
Once they become employees they will also no longer gain the protection of the NCAA that allows the majority of these athletes to get accepted into the colleges on a sliding scale that the majority of who students who attend do not get that luxury. The colleges also will no longer provide paid tutoring and what not.
The left with the backing of the unions are pushing for this. They can sugar coat it all they want but all they will do is create another tax demographic to burden.
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The National Labor Relations Board has directed its Los Angeles
Because the NLRB knows the only state that will support their cause is California. Go figure
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"We are working to make sure college athletes are treated fairly in both the education and business aspects of college sports,"
This is what I cal BS. The moment they become employees colleges will no longer treat them as students. They will not retain any student status granted to them as a scholarship player because they will no longer offer them scholarships. They will basically hire them to come play in those three head count sports.
Once they become employees they will also no longer gain the protection of the NCAA that allows the majority of these athletes to get accepted into the colleges on a sliding scale that the majority of who students who attend do not get that luxury. The colleges also will no longer provide paid tutoring and what not.
The left with the backing of the unions are pushing for this. They can sugar coat it all they want but all they will do is create another tax demographic to burden.
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Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:50 pm to JayAg
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There were years under Fran we had no NFL talent. It was hard to stay interested.
Because your competitors had NFL talent. It’s not that hard guys.
You’re saying if A&M won the national title with a team full of non-NFL players you wouldn’t watch?
The majority of players in the CFB playoffs right now aren’t pro players.
An extremely small number of players are NFL players.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:51 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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If you took the top 500 players out of college and kept a similar talent distribution, it would still be just as popular. No one wound care.
The next generation of LSU fans are going to love LSU because they grew up watching Chase, Jefferson & Burrow. More than we realize, it’s the legacy of athletic greatness that endears the school at impressionable ages.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:00 pm to BevoBucks
You think Max Duggan is endearing some young TCU fans to college football?
Because he’s probably not a pro player. There are lots of great, generational college players that are not future pros, beyond a late pick or a practice squad.
And even in a world where there is a true NFL minor league, many elite players would choose college.
Because he’s probably not a pro player. There are lots of great, generational college players that are not future pros, beyond a late pick or a practice squad.
And even in a world where there is a true NFL minor league, many elite players would choose college.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:04 pm to BevoBucks
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The next generation of LSU fans are going to love LSU because they grew up watching Chase, Jefferson & Burrow.
bullshite. You think someone is gonna become a lifelong LSU fan because they watched 2 seasons of these guys?
If you’re watching for the players, why not watch the NFL? The Saints aren’t even a good NFL team, and they’d blow out even 2019 LSU.
How many Texas Tech games did you tune into when Patrick Mahomes was their QB?
College athletics has always been about connection to the team more than the players. It’s how a ton of the teams can have solid fanbases without ever fielding a championship caliber team.
People fall in love with CFB more because of STTDB and Chinese Bandits than because of a player who is at a school for an extremely short period of time.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:04 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
You think LSU will have more players drafted than TCU this year? Hell, didn’t Baylor win 6 games last year and have 6 guys drafted?
This post was edited on 12/15/22 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:09 pm to JayAg
Not sure what you’re trying to say here chief.
My point is that fans care about winning and talented college players.
If LSU wins, I don’t give a shite about whether they are future NFL players or just great college players.
I don’t follow the NFL and don’t take any sort of pride in LSU guys succeeding in the NFL. I think it’s weird for those that do.
My point is that fans care about winning and talented college players.
If LSU wins, I don’t give a shite about whether they are future NFL players or just great college players.
I don’t follow the NFL and don’t take any sort of pride in LSU guys succeeding in the NFL. I think it’s weird for those that do.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:17 pm to Lonnie Utah
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The point is if you want to get paid to play football, the avenue is the NFL, not college. By not allowing 18 year olds to play in the league, the NFL is discriminating against them based upon age. If someone wants to hang their hat on a lawsuit with merit thats grounded in federal law, that's it.
absolutely - if anything, the NFL should fund a minor league to develop talent; much like baseball does
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:17 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Would I keep watching if no team had any pro talent at the college level? Umm..honestly, I would probably just watch my school and not invest the time I do now in other schools. I’m like that with basketball already. I watch teams outside the SEC with NBA talent. I don’t care to watch a, say UCLA game, unless you tell me there is a guy on that team that’s special.
How many people do you think remember who Gerry McNamara was? Only true fans. But we all remember his teammate.
How many people do you think remember who Gerry McNamara was? Only true fans. But we all remember his teammate.
This post was edited on 12/15/22 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:27 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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If LSU wins, I don’t give a shite about whether they are future NFL players or just great college players.
I agree, and I think most CFB fans do as well.
If they didn’t agree, some enterprising league like the USFL would have already taken away all the college players and college football’s market share with them. But in reality, those leagues all flop because no one tunes in to watch the 33rd best QB in the world. They tune in to watch LSU-Alabama, Ohio State-Michigan, even Army-Navy does solid ratings.
College basketball does just fine with a mediocre lineup of players compared to the past, and basketball is a sport much more reliant on stars than football is.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:27 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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You think someone is gonna become a lifelong LSU fan because they watched 2 seasons of these guys?
I think it can really spark a kids’ interest in a team, yes. Those types of players and those teams can attract a kid who maybe wasn’t terribly interested in the sport prior. Then they keep following the team thereafter. This type of connection happens all the time in sports, especially for younger children.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:40 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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If they didn’t agree, some enterprising league like the USFL would have already taken away all the college players and college football’s market share with them. But in reality, those leagues all flop because no one tunes in to watch the 33rd best QB in the world. They tune in to watch LSU-Alabama, Ohio State-Michigan, even Army-Navy does solid ratings.
Yea, that’s what some of these people don’t seem to grasp.
If these players were so underpaid and undervalued, why didn’t competition fill the void?
Because you can’t replicate alumni and state pride - for any amount of money.
You place an XFL team in Baton Rouge and load it up with every 5 star player on 24/7.
LSU would still outdraw them 10-1.
Fans want their team to have a similar level of talent to their competitors. That’s it.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:10 am to Bjorn Cyborg
All of this is irrelevant. Whether you like it or not, amateurism especially as pertaining to college football is on its last legs.
As I said in a previous post, I don't think this makes the game better. In fact, I think it makes it measurably worse. Still doesn't change what is happening.
As I said in a previous post, I don't think this makes the game better. In fact, I think it makes it measurably worse. Still doesn't change what is happening.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:30 am to BevoBucks
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The SEC is popular now because of the product on the field. It’s bigger, faster and stronger.
The USFL and XFL will feature bigger, faster, and stronger players than the majority of CFB. What percentage of CFB players make the NFL? What percentage are fringe players at that level? Those are the guys on USFL and XFL rosters, some of who were stars in college.
Those leagues won’t hit huge ratings or sell out.
Recruiting 5 stars is part of it, but the number of fans watching the SEC because of NFL caliber talent is dwarfed by the number that watch their alma mater or in state school.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:53 am to JayAg
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How many people do you think remember who Gerry McNamara was? Only true fans. But we all remember his teammate.
I think part of this is because the NCAA tournament draws everybody in. The CFP can do that as well.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:58 am to JayAg
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Idk I’m brainstorming how to save college football
If you truly want to save amateur college sports, there’s only one way: eliminate athletic scholarships.
I hate to admit it, but the Ivies and the University of Chicago got it right when they banned athletic scholarships between the world wars.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 4:37 am to deeprig9
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Players should be compensated for their jersey sales and video game appearances"
Enjoy this, liberal idiot fricktards.
Honestly that's the schools fault for being so damn greedy.
All of this could have been avoided if the school did not sell player merchandise, video games etc....either let the players handle their own merchandise completely or the NCAA should have outlawed selling of player merchandise and likeness by schools.
That way their is no money being made off the players only ticket sales
Posted on 12/16/22 at 4:41 am to deeprig9
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Enjoy this, liberal idiot fricktards.
I would say he probably say he is more progressive communist
Posted on 12/16/22 at 4:59 am to JayAg
quote:Why they always be lumping in womens basketball with the money maker sports?
athletes who play men's basketball, women's basketball or football at any private college in the NCAA will be granted the rights of employees,
I do agree that if the school is charging money to watch students to play a sport, then these students should be entitled to financial compensation. The big 12 has a 2.2 billion dollar contract with ESPN and Fox over 6 years, 380 million per year, but some will still argue that the students shouldn't get paid as the free education is worth it.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 6:48 am to deeprig9
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Enjoy this, liberal idiot fricktards.
Imagine being mad at people who have the audacity to think that players should be paid for their work and not the organization that took advantage of the fact that they weren’t.
The NCAA had ample opportunity to introduce NIL in a sane and reasonable way. They didn’t. Instead they ignored the issue until it wasn’t possible to do so anymore, then just flipped a switch and walked away. They are the ones to be blamed, not the 18-22 year olds wanting to get a piece of the money their talent brings in.
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