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Posted on 12/15/22 at 7:17 pm to Lonnie Utah
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The REAL issue here isn't the NCAA and schools. It's the NFL locking kids out of the league for 3 years after high school.
The NFL doesn't want 18 year olds. They want to watch the 18yo's compete among comparative competition for a few years and get developed. Then pluck them.
Do you really believe an NFL team would draft a guy right out of high school if it were legal?
This post was edited on 12/15/22 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 12/15/22 at 7:20 pm to deeprig9
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Do you really believe an NFL team would draft a guy right out of high school if it were legal?
Absolutely.
It is why they have a rule preventing teams from doing it.
If it wasn't an obvious concern, why would it be in the rules?
Posted on 12/15/22 at 7:21 pm to JayAg
quote:Wild. That would mean there are no cons to being a college athlete, regardless of skill level you’re getting paid and only to practice and play. Crazy how society has bent at the knee to people born tall and fast who are good at playing a game. When players have no skin in the game, why even watch?
Like I said once before, it’s time to make sports separate from school, don’t require them to attend school (or they can do it after if they don’t go pro), and set salary caps.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 7:24 pm to JayAg
Whatever the rule states, just assume things will get taken 3x further. NIL has turned into pay for play. Can’t imagine what this would turn into. Next, you’ll have lawsuits out the arse against the school every time a player injures themself
Posted on 12/15/22 at 7:50 pm to lsufball19
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Do you root for any professional teams? If so, why?
Not really
Posted on 12/15/22 at 7:51 pm to JayAg
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Each school has their own semi-pro team? Kids that don’t go pro, go to school after? Idk I’m brainstorming how to save college football
I would go opposite direction
To be honest
Back to more amateur
Posted on 12/15/22 at 7:56 pm to deeprig9
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The NFL doesn't want 18 year olds. They want to watch the 18yo's compete among comparative competition for a few years and get developed. Then pluck them.
Do you really believe an NFL team would draft a guy right out of high school if it were legal?
That's not the point. The point isn't if they would or woukd not. The point is if you want to get paid to play football, the avenue is the NFL, not college. By not allowing 18 year olds to play in the league, the NFL is discriminating against them based upon age. If someone wants to hang their hat on a lawsuit with merit thats grounded in federal law, that's it.
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Posted on 12/15/22 at 7:57 pm to JayAg
This would be great honestly because you could have the sign non-compete clauses and effectively end the transfer portal BS.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 8:12 pm to meansonny
quote:99.99% of guys are not physically ready for the NFL out of high school. You have limited roster space; I suppose you could try to stash someone on your practice squad a couple years.quote:
Do you really believe an NFL team would draft a guy right out of high school if it were legal?
Absolutely.
It is why they have a rule preventing teams from doing it.
If it wasn't an obvious concern, why would it be in the rules?
But that assumes you have the stability to wait that long before seeing returns.
Yeah, maybe a few RBs (Fournette, etc) could make that jump, and you'd conceivably get a few more years of them at their prime that way.
Maybe the occasional cornerback, too.
But it wouldn't be that effective. I mean, take 2019 LSU as an example... Derek Stingley would probably be the only guy from that team I could see.
Joe Burrow rode the pine for years, had to transfer to LSU as a graduate to see the field. He wasn't in demand. He became the #1 overall pick.
That WR group, Marshall was considered the best coming in. Chase was expected to be good, not incredible. And Jefferson was a 3 star. A few years later, Jefferson > Chase >>> Marshall.
Clyde Edwards-Helaire sat a couple years, and we were expecting John Emery to beat him out as the man. That obviously didn't happen.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 8:19 pm to Scoob
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99.99% of guys are not physically ready for the NFL out of high school.
Again you miss the point. The point is not IF the league would draft a 18 year old out of college. The point is the NFL has a specific rule that prevents it. That puts a bunch of "kids" in limbo for 3 years because the NFL as an organization won't draft them. Again we are talking scholarship money vs roughly $1 mill as a NFL rookie.
To answer the they "They aren't physically/mentally ready" question, I think it would be this, you could go work on your trade outside of college to prepare yourself, just like a plumber or electrician prepares themselves for a life in the trades. You wouldn't have to go to college (although it might me many folks best option....)
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Posted on 12/15/22 at 8:21 pm to Lonnie Utah
Yeah, I have exactly no sympathy for how the goddam NFL - “the world’s most popular league” - would have to handle dealing with 18 year olds.
They’re not hurting for resources that would allow them to work something out.
They’re not hurting for resources that would allow them to work something out.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 8:22 pm to JayAg
Ditch Diggers too
Time for these Athletes to become the accountants and middle managers they always dreamed of being.
Time for these Athletes to become the accountants and middle managers they always dreamed of being.
This post was edited on 12/15/22 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 12/15/22 at 8:25 pm to CatBBN
What I suggested isn’t the craziest thing in the world. It’s already done in soccer in other countries. Schools/University owns the semi-pro team. The players are paid, non-students. The club owner is the school. Fans/students still treat them as their team.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 8:31 pm to JayAg
This is why I am no longer a fan or watch college football or basketball! 
Posted on 12/15/22 at 8:34 pm to deeprig9
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Enjoy this, liberal idiot fricktards
What are you? Some kind of communist? Why do you hate capitalism?
Posted on 12/15/22 at 8:34 pm to luvthablues
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luvthablues
Why are you here, then? Honest question.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 8:35 pm to MoarKilometers
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A W appointee wrote the majority opinion in the O'Bannon case, and a Trump appointee authored the majority opinion in ncaa vs alston case... which i should point out was a 9-0 vote.
The Alston case regarded NIL. The push for direct pay-to-play from universities to students (i.e., classify them as employees) is indeed being pushed by Leftists.
Enjoy rooting for the NFL farm league - hired mercenaries who do not attend your school and are paid simply to wear the uniform on the field.
College sports will become like NFL-D League.
Also, with only 25 D1 schools earning a profit, good luck paying players in addition to the $350,000 scholarship that they are provided. Average D1 school operates in a deficit of $16M.
This post was edited on 12/15/22 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 12/15/22 at 8:37 pm to deeprig9
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Enjoy this, liberal idiot fricktards.
Free labor is about as liberal as it gets.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 8:38 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
quote:Correct. And this can be said about all aspects of life: sports, politics, etc.
it's not about "caring" for the pawns they use
quote:I don't believe they want it destroyed. I do believe that they want to suck every last penny out of it that they can get their hands on without any regard for the sport or the people they may destroy in their path.
the powers that be want college football literally destroyed
Again, that could be said about the powers that be for any aspect of life.
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