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re: Looks like Tennessee is transitioning to a 4-2-5 Defense

Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:06 pm to
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:06 pm to
Happened under butch
Posted by OrangeEmpire
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:08 pm to
Butch broke out the 2-2-3-4 out against Georgia Tech.
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:11 pm to
Was talking about the transition baw
Posted by OrangeEmpire
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:12 pm to
I saw an opening and took it.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:13 pm to
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WRs
Jones JR 6’ 200 SR
Hyatt 6’ 175 SO
Keyton 6’3 200 SO
Calloway 6’ 200 SO
Tillman 6’3 215 JR
Wideman 6’4 205 SO


If these guys played for uga, no way you call them “deep and talented”. It’s these hypocritical inconsistencies that kill your reputation and credibility.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:17 pm to
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these guys played for uga, no way you call them “deep and talented”. It’s these hypocritical inconsistencies that kill your reputation and credibility.



And none would come close to making our
2 deep.

Tommy Bush would be the clear #1 if he was a Vol
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:20 pm to
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He ran a 3-4 with the OLBs rolled up to the line of scrimmage


quote:

As do multiple teams at times who run the 3-4 including those in the NFL

Do you think he's gonna run anything complex in a spring game?




Watch film of UT trying to stop the quick slant all season and you'll see that it wasn't just in the Spring game.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:24 pm to
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Bailey 6’5 225 high 4* guy with a cannon Hooker 6’4 220 Dual threat transfer Salter 6’2 185 Dual threat freshman


I don’t think any sec team has a bigger bunch of nobodies who never did shite in their QB room.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 2:30 pm to
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Watch film of UT trying to stop the quick slant all season and you'll see that it wasn't just in the Spring game.



Maybe his particular version of his defense didn't work or maybe he didn't have the right personnel but to say his
defense is some antiquated elementary school defense is silly.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 2:34 pm to
Most teams are in a 4-2-5 or 3-3-5 as a base now any way. The biggest difference usually is whether the 5th DB is a safety type or corner type. And that usually depends on that weeks opponent, anyway.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 2:44 pm to
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He ran a 3-4 with the OLBs rolled up to the line of scrimmage...

From the 2019 Orange and White Game


Lol
Your photo is 12 personnel.
Are you expecting nickel or dime against that?
It is a running offensive formation and Pruitt (like a good coach) implements a running defensive formation.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 2:46 pm to
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Most teams are in a 4-2-5 or 3-3-5 as a base now any way. The biggest difference usually is whether the 5th DB is a safety type or corner type. And that usually depends on that weeks opponent, anyway.



This ^^^

A team that spreads tight ends wide for the screen game might get the sam linebacker back out on the field. But outside of the exceptions to the rule, the above is correct.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:25 pm to
I’ve looked into the Iowa State 3-3-5 defense that uses 3 safeties. They do a lot of the 3-3 zone blitz packages you’d expect but they change up responsibilities a bit and it seems to help them some against the quick RPO game. Obviously cover 3 is sorta their base coverage but they also have an inverted cover 2 that ends up working a lot like the Tampa 2. The big benefit is that their inverted Tampa 2 doesn’t require the mike linebacker to be otherworldly because the hole between the split safeties that Mike LB covers in the Tampa 2 is handled by the middle safety instead.


Mississippi State is using a similar approach to Iowa State and they got absolutely abused by Devonta Smith (combo of their freshman corner and some of the 3-3 zone blitzes leading to him just running past the safety isolated on him several times) BUT Mississippi State did hold Alabama to the 2nd lowest offense-only point total of the season (34 points).
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:10 pm to
It's not really as big as b
People think

4-2-5
3-3-5

Are the defenses going forward to stop spread offenses
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:34 pm to
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Maybe his particular version of his defense didn't work or maybe he didn't have the right personnel but to say his
defense is some antiquated elementary school defense is silly.


It’s the fact that zero adjustments were made during the season to address it that bothered most fans.

In highschool I remember we ran a 5-4-2 defense and a wing-T called the broken bone. Coach Welch considered a forward pass from either team a sign of weakness. The 2 safeties were back there if anything made it through the line. The guys that would normally be WRs or DBs played basketball or baseball for years because of it. But the school was skill a pipeline for LBs and DLine a decade after he left the 1st time. JV guys that passed or caught the ball ended up at Brierwood. Now they were running an O that included a passing QB and a more normal D.

Maryville is the highschool I follow now with its modern stadium that makes the Brickyard look shabby. But they use to shut the whole town down when Thomson had a home game.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:42 pm to
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I don’t think any sec team has a bigger bunch of nobodies who never did shite in their QB room.


Georgia came close in 2020 until JT Daniels stepped up.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15968 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:48 pm to
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I don’t think any sec team has a bigger bunch of nobodies who never did shite in their QB room.

2 freshman and a transfer. And moving into a proven high octane O. Know those names, learn them. Because they will be on everyone’s lips in the offseason. This isn’t some jumped up journeyman WR coach calling plays for a record second year in a row for the 1st time their 30 year career.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:00 pm to
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ow those names, learn them. Because they will be on everyone’s lips in the offseason.


Holy shite at the delusion in this post. This isnt the 1990's where everyone talked about the great Vol teams in the offseason.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:24 pm to
The offense dictates the defensive scheme. It isnt the other way around.

Your own offense runs a 12 personnel with 2 additional offensive linemen playing the tight end role and your first impulse is to declare an oklahoma 52 defense as antiquated coaching?

The defense was a check based upon offensive personnel. Not the other way around.

The defense doesnt sub first and the offense seeing a Bear front think that they probably should roll out a couple of extra linemen as a precaution.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15968 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 5:35 am to
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Holy shite at the delusion in this post.


That was me getting you ahead of the game. Take it how you will.
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