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re: Is the Alabama job after Saban desirable?
Posted on 12/25/20 at 11:00 am to TigerCrude
Posted on 12/25/20 at 11:00 am to TigerCrude
Yes...we’re Alabama! What a silly question. Saban came because it was Alabama!
Posted on 12/25/20 at 11:03 am to Fastcat
Mike DuBose had Top 10 recruiting classes in 1999 and 2000 once we got off probation. It isn't just Saban. It's the brand.
Posted on 12/25/20 at 8:04 pm to TigerCrude
No doubt. Ga does less with more than anybody in college football.
Posted on 12/25/20 at 8:17 pm to TigerCrude
I'm not reading 8 pages, but yes.
Best history, most championships, best resources, best facilities, best location for talent.
Not just a desirable job. It's the best job.
Best history, most championships, best resources, best facilities, best location for talent.
Not just a desirable job. It's the best job.
Posted on 12/25/20 at 8:49 pm to TigerCrude
All I really can know for certain is that we got your coach, held on to him for over a decade and have broke college football including owning LSU.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 10:30 pm to BLG
That’s cool. Saban would have 5+titles if he would have stayed at LSU. LSU won titles with two idiots as head coaches. Pretty sure saban would have won five more.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 10:33 pm to topcat88
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Pretty sure saban would have won five more.
So is the fact that he won them, or won them at Alabama the biggest choke point for Tigger fans?
Posted on 12/26/20 at 10:37 pm to GBJs
I could give a shite. LSU didn’t cling on to saban for dear life like Alabama fans do. He is their world. We won two since he has been at Bama and the Tigers are doing just fine. I’m responding to the post stating his record at LSU insinuating he could only have that type of success at Bama.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 11:23 pm to TigerCrude
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there is no more spoiled fan base than Bama
Of course one day Saban will leave, and of course, we will have a wave of spoiled kids that have no concept of feeling human, and NOT seeing a mini-NFL team every week.
But the vast majority of us absolutely appreciate and understand what we are seeing and that all good things come to an end.
Is it a good job after Saban? Absolutely. We have the facilities, undying fan support, and program committed to winning. Will expectations be tough? Yep. But how much tougher than normal? Bama will fire a coach that under-performs. That has always been the case. Will they fire the first coach that takes over faster than they would have just bc of the Saban shadow? I sincerely doubt it.
Don't want a coach without balls anyway.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:15 am to DaDudeAbides
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Most Bama fans wanted Shula retained in 2006
That is not true.....
Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:15 am to TideFaninFl
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Alabama won a NC in the 40's, and then again in the 60's and 70's. Went though the 80's without one, but won another in the 90's. I know what you are trying to do, but it is not working. Most teams win one or two NC in their history (LSU has 4), but Alabama wins them in bunches.
You guys won a title in 1992 and then didn't win another until 2009. You can call it cherrypicking but that's a long span within the modern era, and it follows a decade of not winning in the '80s. As an LSU fan I grew up not really giving a shite about Bama and hated Florida (in the 90s) and Auburn (in the 2000s) more. I remember watching the likes of Laron Landry teeing off on Bama QBs and their putrid OLs under Mike Shula. People used to make fun of Bama fans' veneration for the Bear and how they lived in the past. In modern times Bama was hardly any more impressive of a program than Auburn, Tennessee, or Florida, prior to Saban's arrival, which by the way, could have been Rich Rodriguez. Saban came along, and the last decade has been a historic run.
Soon enough, he will retire or fall ill, die, etc. And Bama will regress. It will be glorious to watch, and Bama fans will get back to living in the past.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:18 am to topcat88
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Saban would have 5+titles if he would have stayed at LSU.
Eh, if Meyer had stayed at UF, maybe not.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:21 am to Lou Pai
Also it's funny how Bama fans act like Bama is innately great because it's just Bama y'all. Well then why was your program such dogshit prior to Saban's arrival? The highlight of your program for a 10 year stretch was a Tyrone Prothro circus catch against Southern Miss. That, and we gotta stop the inside trap in the Independence Bowl.
Point is that anyone is capable of falling off. We will see that with Bama inevitably when Saban hangs it up.
Point is that anyone is capable of falling off. We will see that with Bama inevitably when Saban hangs it up.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:23 am to topcat88
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I could give a shite. LSU didn’t cling on to saban for dear life like Alabama fans do.
LSU does not the kind of success Alabama has either.
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We won two since he has been at Bama and the Tigers are doing just fine.
Not sure if you are serious or not, but being 4-11 against Alabama during this time is OK with you, then so be it.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:24 am to TigerCrude
Name 3 more desirable locations.. keep in mind department money, facilities, sentiment with young recruits, the want to be the first squad to win without saban... as a fellow tiger im ashamed you have to ask...
It’s significantly less desirable then lsu for coaching positions across the board
It’s significantly less desirable then lsu for coaching positions across the board
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Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:30 am to Lou Pai
Due to Joab Thomas's incompetence, Alabama missed out on hiring Bobby Bowden in the middle 80's, and hired Curry instead. From 1997-2008 Alabama was on sanctions, if the first comes true, and the second does not, it is a different ballgame.
When Coach Saban leaves Alabama will fall back, but not to LSU levels (there is no way another SEC team could go 11-4 on Alabama without Alabama having sanctions).
The reason why Alabama is so successful is that they do not tolerate anything less than high level coaches. We will give them 4 years, but they will have to go if they do not produce a NC.
When Coach Saban leaves Alabama will fall back, but not to LSU levels (there is no way another SEC team could go 11-4 on Alabama without Alabama having sanctions).
The reason why Alabama is so successful is that they do not tolerate anything less than high level coaches. We will give them 4 years, but they will have to go if they do not produce a NC.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 3:55 am to TigerCrude
You want to be the guy after the guy that follows Saban. Saban is hands down the greatest recruiter of all time. It's not close. He isn't the greatest X's and O's coach but his Jimmy and Joe's are just better.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 4:33 am to kajunman
In the best possible way it is the fanbase that makes the program. Alabama's fanbase expects NCs and nothing less will suffice. That high bar was set and is maintained by the fanbase - and it will be there forever. The hardest thing to do in sports is to establish a fanbase that accepts nothing less than Championships. When that happens all the pressure is on the University to insure their coaching hires. When Saban leaves their will be intense pressure on the AD & President to make a homerun hire. If they fail they will lose their jobs.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 5:41 am to TigerCrude
The job will pay well.
Coaches can win there.
If the coach does not win, he will be fired.
It is what it is.
Coaches can win there.
If the coach does not win, he will be fired.
It is what it is.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 6:52 am to TigerCrude
How long did Joe-Pa coach?? Because saban wants to be to sole record holder of most nattys and most years coaching.
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