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re: Is the Alabama job after Saban desirable?

Posted on 12/24/20 at 8:20 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64515 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 8:20 pm to
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Let’s be serious... there is no more spoiled fan base than Bama. Once Saban retires and the law of averages takes over again their fan base will implode. Firing every coach that doesn’t win a Natty in the first year being coach.


Most of them are not old enough to remember what it was like in the years following Bear Bryant. It will be similar to that. I remember back then one of their fans threw a brick through the living room window of Bear’s replacement.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 8:41 pm to
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I remember back then one of their fans threw a brick through the living room window of Bear’s replacement.





No you don't.

Any more lies you want to tell?
Posted by GeekedUp
Virginia
Member since Jun 2009
1965 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 8:49 pm to
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Alabama really offers no actual advantage over any other "big" program and has tremendous expectations,


Believe this is part of the advantage. People care about Bama football. There’s tremendous support so coaches and players want to go there.

Can’t imagine there not being a falloff after the GOAT.
Posted by Go Go Gata
Member since Oct 2016
2177 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 8:52 pm to
Once Saban leaves I believe UGA, UF, LSU and A&M (in no particular order) will be the top 4 in SEC.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38012 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 8:57 pm to
Email Ray Perkins and ask him.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26635 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 9:01 pm to
Will Bama job be desirable post-$$$$$?

Job - absolutely

Expectations - awww hell nah
Posted by DaDudeAbides
Member since Nov 2020
796 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 11:24 pm to
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there is no more spoiled fan base than Bama.


Coming from fans who called for Saban to be fired a year after he won LSU's first NC in decades? Yet again calling for heads to roll ONE YEAR after winning an NC, refusing to give this coaching staff a pass for dealing with a pandemic and countless players opting out? Lose one game and your fans want to burn the entire school down. Lol

But Bama fans are the most spoiled? Lol Okay, boomer. Most Bama fans wanted Shula retained in 2006, proving they might be the most ignorant but definitely not the most spoiled. Poor dude wouldn't have lasted two seasons at LSU.
Posted by forestwhitackersgood
Dallas
Member since Jun 2019
3062 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 1:39 am to
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Alabama really offers no actual advantage over any other "big" program and has tremendous expectations, especially in the first years after Saban.




Guess being, arguably the GOAT CFB program, having been led by arguably the Top 2 CFB coaches of all-time, a program that arguably offers the most support it any in CFB... Yeah... No actual advantages whatsoever..
This post was edited on 12/25/20 at 1:48 am
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7141 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 7:43 am to
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outside of Bear and Saban, only one guy has done so since the early 1940s.

Just my opinion but I think as an overall job, LSU and UGA are still better just due to their recruiting advantages.


In the years after Bryant retired and before Saban was hired at LSU, Alabama won more SEC titles and more games than LSU or UGA. If LSU or UGA was a better program except for the Saban and Bryant years at Alabama then those 2 programs would have won more during those years. They did not.

For that matter, Alabama won more games than LSU did from Bryant's retirement till Saban left LSU.

eta that's even excluding the games Alabama won on the field that the ncaa decided Alabama should forfeit.
This post was edited on 12/25/20 at 7:52 am
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36455 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 7:47 am to
The coach that follows the legend is usually a downer. Hire Sark, sacrifice him to the Gods then hire Dabo.

Profit.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7141 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 7:56 am to
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The coach that follows the legend is usually a downer


I think Perkins would have been fine had he stayed but evidently he preferred the NFL. In any event he received a huge contract and partial ownership to return to the NFL. Bill Curry won (shared) a SEC title in his 3 years at Alabama. Stallings won a national title and 70 games in his 7 years. Hell, even Mike DuBose won a SEC title at Alabama. You know who didn't win a SEC title during the DuBose years? LSU and UGA did not.
This post was edited on 12/25/20 at 8:13 am
Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
4079 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 8:04 am to
Yeah but no one will be able to maintain that type of success like Saban. You would have to strike lightning in a bottle again.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14077 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 8:06 am to
17 National Championships
28 SEC Championships

Alabama will be OK guys, honest.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7141 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 8:07 am to
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no one will be able to maintain that type of success like Saban


of course not, or not at all likely anyway. This run Alabama is on is unprecedented in college football, at least since the Ivy League dominated rugby style football in the 1800s.

eta: Nick Saban at Alabama 87.7% winning pct. 10 & 3 bowl record so far. Nick Saban at LSU 75% with 3 & 2 bowl record.
This post was edited on 12/25/20 at 8:24 am
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38377 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 8:47 am to
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No other SEC team or major program in the state. Same as Georgia.



This is 2020 not 1975. Recruiting is a national game, you idiots can harp on this all you want, it doesn’t make it true. Bama just signed 7 top 100 players from Texas.

Any perceived advantage you have in that regard doesn’t measure up to the advantage of being seen as a current and historical national powerhouse. It’s why we can go get a #1 ranked QB from Hawaii and you have to hope he’s born in LA. Tell me who has the advantage there. You’re grasping at straws for anything that that you think points to Bama falling off. It isn’t happening soon
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 9:28 am to
Plus Alabama has a recruiting advantage no other sec team has just because of the long-standing success of the program. As already noted Saban has recruited better at Alabama than he did at LSU
Posted by Fastcat
Member since Nov 2016
438 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 10:12 am to
True but recruiting talent will begin to drop off and they will begin losing games. Alabama is where they are now because players want to play for Saban and he can pick and choose who he wants just like the baseball players wanted to play for skip and all the talent was keeping him on top . But when he leaves you will begin to see the recruiting fall off drastically and then the game losses will begin to pick up.
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 10:22 am to
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Alabama is where they are now because players want to play for Saban and he can pick and choose who he wants j


If it’s all Due to Saban then why is the Alabama vs LSU series so lopsided in Alabama’s favor?
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 10:39 am to
Yes
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 10:55 am to
Is being the President of The United States a "desirable job"?
To some people it's the pinnacle of their aspirations, and to others it would be a nightmare which would likely crush them.
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