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I’m sure she imagined that he would try to have sex with her. It’s even possible that a part of her might have even considered it.

Getting raped isn’t even in the same universe here dude.


True. But I’m wondering, what evidence there is that she was raped? I see she’s accused him of rape. And he’s saying it was consensual.

How can either be proven?
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He is making a diplomatic visit on our soil. Did you expect him to shite on us or something?


If he didn’t respect the US and its current leadership, he probably would not shite on us, but he definitely would not do anything that would portray respect for either.
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No idea who these people are. Didn’t read.


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by BabyTac


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Crump is a piece of shite.


Don’t compare Crump to shite. shite can at least be useful as fertilizer. Crump is completely useless.
I don’t think so. In general, I’m very positive and upbeat. Unless I’m met with rude behavior, I’m very polite and friendly. Rudeness is something I cannot abide.
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What are your thoughts on females being commentators in televised men's sporting events?


No
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Think the watch has more potential? I wouldn't be shocked if in 10 years it was drawing labs, checking for diabetes, and handling all high blood pressure.


If I could do my monthly blood INR check on my phone, that would be awesome.
Anyone who puts any credibility on Mother Jones as a legitimate journalistic outlet is an absolute idiot.
Not counting my fiber and vitamins, I have 8 daily prescriptions.
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When will the Kwanza Barbie be coming out?

And what sort of nose will they put on her?
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It is in Northern Kentucky


I don’t know if the one in Turkey is a scam or not. But the one in Kentucky is definitely a scam. We went in about 2018 or 2019 and for me, my wife, and our daughter was over $100 (seems like it was about $120) to walk through that thing, and that was with my military discount.
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we agree. no doubt there would be a major pivot if his findings were verified.


It would be the most significant archaeological discovery perhaps ever. That’s why I’m interested in this matter.
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It's likely they have everything completely wrong. That's the point.


Researchers often are.

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The fact they're promoting 4300 years ago should be a HUGE red flag for anyone looking at this objectively and critically. With a straight face they are claiming it's 4300 years old, which puts it at 2300 BC. This is a direct quote, not interpretation or insinuation.


And this is one of the reasons I’m not buying them entirely. Like I said, I think there is something up there. I don’t know what it is, but I do think there is something. And, it’s possible that something,just might possibly be Noah’s Ark. There are some indications that it could be. I’m interested to find out the truth. But until I see more evidence, I’ll remain in the “I don’t know” camp.

This thing could turn out to be man-made, but does that prove it’s Noah’s Ark? No. It might be some old temple or fortification from some long-forgotten civilization. And it’s not out of the realm of possibility that it’s absolutely nothing. Who knows?

I’m not buying the claim that this is “100% confirmed” to be Noah’s Ark. But I’m also not ascribing to the notion that it’s 100% confirmed to be nothing.
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These guys date their find to 2300 BC

It makes it pretty difficult for a worldwide, or even regional, flood to occur at such a rate that this ark would be floating high enough to be placed on that mountain in 2300 BC, given the existence of these societies and the history we know flowed from this point


Are you asking if I believe the flood discussed in the Bible happened in or around 2300 BC?

No, I don’t believe that’s possible from a timing standpoint.

The article says the samples they have collected will be tested. So, if they’ve not been tested, how can a time period be ascribed to anything? In fact, the article states one of the tests they’ll do is to see if there is even wood present in the samples they’ve collected. They haven’t even confirmed the material is even wood.

The article also says, and this is a word for word quote…

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The team must isolate suitable organic material from its core samples and submit it for radiocarbon dating before it can determine whether the site fits that timeline.


It’s entirely possible they have their timeline completely wrong.

Again, I’m not ready to say this thing is the actual Noah’s Ark. but I think there is something there. What that something is, I don’t know. But I hope they find out whatever it is.
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bad faith science isn't interesting and certainly not from an academic standpoint


I know, you’ve made up your mind that these people are grifters and this is all a con. Perhaps it is. Perhaps it’s not. None of us are in a position to definitively declare their intentions either way.

And the fact they solicit funding doesn’t make them any different than any research team. All research teams require funding and all solicit funds. Some go to governments for funding, some to universities, some to NGOs. But they all do it in one way or another.

And let’s not pretend that its common for researchers to come to whatever conclusion the entity that’s providing their finding wants them to come to. “Global Warming” anyone?

I’m sorry if it bothers you that I’m keeping an open mind on what they’re doing. Maybe they’ll find something real, maybe they won’t.
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I honestly find it easier to fathom that, than that the world and every truly remarkable piece of it and our universe just appeared.


There is far too much order and design in the universe for it to all be random happenstance.

That’s why this whole debate over whatever this thing is in Turkey is interesting from academic standpoint, but doesn’t determine my worldview. If it’s not the actual Noah’s Ark, oh well. If it is, cool. Unlike others in this thread it change anything to me.

The only evidence I need is to look out my window and see something like a tree, a bird, or even a cloud. Or simply look up at night and see the stars. Creation itself proclaims its creator.
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“We have no way of knowing if Jesus really existed..."


Even secular historians overwhelmingly acknowledge Jesus really existed.
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Do you believe that there were civilizations around the Mediterranean and Mesopotamia around 2300 BC? Yes or no?


It’s see very important to you that I answer this absurd question. And I say absurd because the archeological evidence overwhelmingly confirms there were multiple civilizations around the Mediterranean snd Mesopotamia in 2300 BC. In fact, there is evidence of civilizations in Mesopotamia far older than 2300 BC.

Why do you think this is a matter that is in question? What significance do you assign to the year 2300 BC?
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That’s pretty harsh.


Sometimes the truth is harsh.