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re: I'm Sold. Time to expand the Playoff
Posted on 12/18/20 at 10:04 am to chillmonster
Posted on 12/18/20 at 10:04 am to chillmonster
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I'm Sold. Time to expand the Playoff
Six teams. Would allow a none power five in and award the top two teams by giving them byes.
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Posted on 12/18/20 at 10:26 am to AggieinAL2
I'd watch the hell out of this. For a regular, non-covid season, 8 is probably the right number.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 10:38 am to Realistic Ag
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I'd watch the hell out of this. For a regular, non-covid season, 8 is probably the right number.
Everyone on here would be all about this. Imagine the upsets. It would be amazing.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 10:45 am to AggieinAL2
Major Laegue Baseball only had 2 teams make the playoffs up until 1969. The AL and NL teams that won the most games would play the World Series. That was when there was 20 teams.
MLB Now has 10 teams that make the playoffs out of 30 total teams. For comparison the NFL has 32 teams and 12 make the playoffs.
You can't have a competitive entity when less than 10% of the members are the only ones who have a chance at success. Even if the Power 5 broke away and did their own thing, 4 playoff spots is not going to work for 64 teams. 65 if you count Notre Dame.
MLB Now has 10 teams that make the playoffs out of 30 total teams. For comparison the NFL has 32 teams and 12 make the playoffs.
You can't have a competitive entity when less than 10% of the members are the only ones who have a chance at success. Even if the Power 5 broke away and did their own thing, 4 playoff spots is not going to work for 64 teams. 65 if you count Notre Dame.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 10:46 am to theaerialview
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16 teams is overkill, IMO. I’m down with 8.
Thats 17 game for the Championship teams.
That's a lot for college kids.
If they did go to 16, they might as well get rid of Conf champions.
8 would be best. The #8 team isn't going to win, but at least the Cincy's and Coastals would get a fair shake.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 11:08 am to chillmonster
Expand to 6, 8 at the most. You would flat out dilute it by going to 16.
6 team with current rankings
Bama - bye versus winner of Ohio St/A&M
ND - bye versus winner of Iowa St/Clemson
8 game with current rankings
Bama/UGA
A&M/Ohio St
Iowa St/Clemson
Florida/Notre Dame
6 team with current rankings
Bama - bye versus winner of Ohio St/A&M
ND - bye versus winner of Iowa St/Clemson
8 game with current rankings
Bama/UGA
A&M/Ohio St
Iowa St/Clemson
Florida/Notre Dame
This post was edited on 12/18/20 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 12/18/20 at 11:17 am to stang22
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You know why I'm good with it? Because when it comes to college football, I'm selfish. I'd rather watch the 1-16 and 2-15 matchups than the Poulan Weedeater Bowl.
And the chance my Tigers could get in as a 13 seed every 4-5 years makes it even better.
No one would benefit from a 16 team playoff more than Alabama.
Expand the playoffs to 16 and watch Alabama get in 30 years in a row.
Then y'all will start bitching to shorten them.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 11:25 am to finchmeister08
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there's the bias i was talking about.
It's not bias. 4,8,or 16, the BEST teams should be in the play-offs. nothing else matters. A team can lose the conference championship game and still be a top 4 team.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 11:26 am to BamaGradinTn
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Expand the playoffs to 16 and watch Alabama get in 30 years in a row.
Then y'all will start bitching to shorten them.
This isn't about Bama. Get over yourself.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 11:27 am to chillmonster
what about 10 teams, with top 6 getting a first week bye?
Con: 4 weeks of games added to regular season.
Con: 4 weeks of games added to regular season.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 11:28 am to chillmonster
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How is the regular season meaningful if someone can drop a game and get when an undefeated team that doesn't?
How can a national trophy be meaningful when you don’t actually have to play in a P5 conference to win it, don’t need to win your division(much less your conference) to win it, can lose a couple games and win it, etc..
The P5 just need to break away from the NCAA and crown a champ inside those. 4 16 team conferences with a governing body setting schedules and rules.
Conference winners to playoff
Division winners to conference title game
Pod winners play for division title
Pods play other 7 teams in their division plus new governor if body schedule
NCAA can crown a D1 champ for non P5 teams (coastal, Cincy etc)
P5 conference crowns it’s champ. De facto 16 game playoffs.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 11:47 am to chillmonster
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Everyone on here would be all about this. Imagine the upsets. It would be amazing.
That's honestly the problem. As a fan, it's fun to think about upsets and chaos... But frankly, one of the things that's been interesting about college football for so long is just how much the regular season matters. College Basketball is basically a fun side show through the regular season up until a few weeks out from the conference tournaments. The resume matters, but as long as you don't just get goat raped by the worst team in basketball, most teams that were presumed tournament bound to start the year will likely end up there.
For as much as the BCS gets shite on, they by and large had the best 2 teams or best 3 teams at the top at the end of the year... that was the argument for the playoffs at 4. Eliminate that wiggle room and you've got *the best* 4 teams playing against each other...
8 teams all but assures there will be teams in that don't deserve that spot. I'm a UGA fan through and through, but you can't make a case that we *deserve* a chance to play for the national title in 2020. You can what if your way to "JTD for a whole season" all you want, but we lost to the two best teams we played no matter how you slice it.
2020 has been a weird year. I could see an argument for expanding to more games just because we really don't have any insight into relative strength of conferences other than the eye test this year, but it's also an anomaly. Average to slightly above average teams are propped up by not playing higher quality teams.
Generally speaking, we have a pretty good idea of who teams are. If a UCF/Cincinatti/etc doesn't want to find a way to schedule quality P5 teams, I don't care that whether they are in "always a bridesmaid" mode. Frankly, G5 should probably have a separate playoff and just be done with the argument altogether.
I would understand expanding to 6, so that those top 2 spots are coveted for the bye. I'm not a fan of 8, but it wouldn't be the worst thing to happen. Sixteen teams just basically says to me that the most deserving national champion likely was decided by the rankings prior to the playoffs, and the playoffs are exhibitions. I'm not terribly interested in seeing Alabama rape Iowa behind a woodshed or Clemson hate frick Northwestern. It just feels wholly unnecessary.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 11:50 am to chillmonster
Probably should add a minimum game limit too. No team should be in a playoff in any sport after only playing 6 freaking games.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 11:56 am to UAgrad93
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Expand to 6, 8 at the most. You would flat out dilute it by going to 16.
6 team with current rankings
Bama - bye versus winner of Ohio St/Iowa St
ND - bye versus winner of A&M/Clemson
8 game with current rankings
Bama/UGA
Iowa St/Ohio St
A&M/Clemson
Florida/Notre Dame
As of now yes. Would be diff after Conf champ.
I'd like to see Cincy and Coastal in there. Let them play 1 and 2 and see where they are.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 12:19 pm to bayou85
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As of now yes. Would be diff after Conf champ.
Agreed!
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I'd like to see Cincy and Coastal in there. Let them play 1 and 2 and see where they are.
Wasn't it Northern Illinois that played in the Orange Bowl and got run out of the stadium? Do we really want to see 2 blowouts?
Posted on 12/18/20 at 12:22 pm to UAgrad93
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Wasn't it Northern Illinois that played in the Orange Bowl and got run out of the stadium? Do we really want to see 2 blowouts?
We get at least 1 every year now.
LSU OU
Clem ND
Bama Mich State
Oregon FSU
Clem OSU
Bama Clem? 24-6 kinda
Posted on 12/18/20 at 12:25 pm to theaerialview
Nailed it. 8: 5 power 5 champs and the next 3 highest ranked teams.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 12:35 pm to bayou85
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16 teams is overkill, IMO. I’m down with 8.
Thats 17 game for the Championship teams.
That's a lot for college kids.
If you do a 24 team playoff the top 8 teams would only have 3 playoff games as they get byes. It has already been figured out. 16 games is what you would play and since we already have real college students who have already done it, I think it can be done.
See Exhibit A
This post was edited on 12/18/20 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 12/18/20 at 2:05 pm to theaerialview
I’m down with 8 and shorten the season by playing shite cupcake teams
Posted on 12/18/20 at 2:21 pm to theaerialview
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16 teams is overkill, IMO. I’m down with 8.
8 is the sweet spot.
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