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re: I'm Sold. Time to expand the Playoff

Posted on 12/17/20 at 6:39 pm to
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 6:39 pm to
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Each Champ from the Power 5 with a few Wildcards going by W-L SOS ect.



So keep rewarding the dogshit Pac-12, and increase the chances even more that Alabama's in every year.
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17256 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 6:50 pm to
Play 6. 1and 2 get a bye. 3 plays 6 winner plays 1 and 4 plays 5 winner plays 2.

Your welcome.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9420 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:17 pm to
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So, in 2019, 8-4 Virginia, 10-3 Wisconsin, and 11-2 Utah go to your playoffs. Why do you want to take the two best teams from the Big 12, but not the other conferences? Seriously...some of you people just pull shite out of your arse, throw it against the wall and see if it sticks.


Top two from the big12 because they only have 10 teams. Winning your division should mean something. Regardless of record. Go fricking figure a Bama fan doesn’t think winning their division matters. If it mattered, 2 of yalls titles wouldn’t exist bitch
Posted by Parrish_Dawg
Enemy Territory
Member since Dec 2018
786 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:34 pm to
ANY solution that provides an automatic playoff birth for a P5 champion should come with the caveat that they have to be ranked in the top 10 of the CFP rankings. It would be awful to have a 9-3/8-4 conference champion get in by way of sucking less than the rest of their conference. Increase the at-large birth by 1 if that scenario happens.
Posted by Todd Greene
Huntsville, Al
Member since Aug 2019
2457 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:46 pm to
The old BCS system would be best as Bama would play N.D. for the NC!


ORDER RESTORED!
Posted by nws100
Member since Oct 2020
30 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:54 pm to
The only reason people care about that game is because of tradition and rivalry. The outcome is meaningless except for bragging rights.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:55 pm to
Needs to be 8. 8 is perfect.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:23 pm to
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Go fricking figure a Bama fan doesn’t think winning their division matters.


You would put an 8-4 Virginia in the playoffs, so your stupidity is pretty much on display for the whole fricking planet to see.

I'd try to explain to you how moronic your idea is because of the fact that all divisions aren't equal, but that concept would be way the frick over your head.
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 8:26 pm
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48891 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:27 pm to
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8 is most it should ever go.

- 5 P5 conference champs
- 3 at-larges chosen by BCS
- Ranked 1-8 by BCS
- Top 4 get home games on NYE and NYD
- Remaining 4 play in the rotating bowl system we have now for the CFP


So simple a cave man could do it.

Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:32 pm to
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It is going to an expanded playoff because otherwise the sport will die due to players opting out. Players are losing interest and so will the fans.



True.

A lot of people don't give a shite about the last few games of the season now because those games "don't matter". Those who care now will still care if there's an expanded playoff.

Here's the future: kids are eventually going to opt out of any game that doesn't have real championship implications. Teams will drop two games and immediately see 5 opt outs.

That won't happen with a 16 (or even 8) team playoff. This gives us more chances to see teams' best.
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 8:43 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:36 pm to
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- 5 P5 conference champs
- 3 at-larges chosen by BCS



So simple a cave man could do it.


Like I said...increase the chances that Bama gets in for 20 years in a row.

But have yet to see anyone articulate a reason why, other than TV markets, the Pac-12 champion should get a berth over the American.
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 8:38 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:37 pm to
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A lot of people don't give a shite about the last few games of the season now because those fans "don't matter"




Said no college football fan, ever. You're talking about Rivalry Weekend. Yeah, a lot of people don't give a shite about those games.

Serious question...how long have you been following college football?
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 8:39 pm
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
6421 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:46 pm to
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8 is most it should ever go. - 5 P5 conference champs - 3 at-larges chosen by BCS - Ranked 1-8 by BCS - Top 4 get home games on NYE and NYD - Remaining 4 play in the rotating bowl system we have now for the CFP


Most years, 8 is too much. I think the committee should decide anywhere from 4 up to 8 teams depending on the situation. The committee should try not to have rematches, so most of the time the P5 would send just one representative of their chose. But then I think undefeated non P5 teams should have a shot as well. Sure the P10 and B12 suck this year but we really don’t know how bad they are because they didn’t play other P5 schools, so this year you would have them send one team each. But most years, they already lost to other P5 conference teams which would count them out.

So a year where there’s no undefeated non P5 team, you’d look at the 5 P5 conferences and have and AND one game with the 4th and 5th team playing a play in game the week before at the home of the higher ranked. If you had a non P5 undefeated team, you could have a 6th team so the 3rd ranked team would play the 6th and the 4th and 5th would play as well. In some extreme years you could have a 7th or 8th team from P5 or non P5, let’s say like Clemson and ND this year, where they both played each other 2 times and let’s say the games were both close but the committee should really try not to have rematches.
Posted by BamaELCo
Alabama
Member since Jun 2012
3210 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:50 pm to
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quote:
16 teams is overkill, IMO. I’m down with 8.


I've been good with 8 forever, but not anymore. Just apply that to this year and tell me if it would work.

It wouldn't.


So you’re using the most bizarre year in college football since WWII as justification for making sweeping changes?
Posted by GBJs
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2012
3898 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:52 pm to
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How is the regular season meaningful if someone can drop a game and get when an undefeated team that doesn't?


Strength of schedule.

........ of course Florida and Georgia are frickin ours up right now......
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:53 pm to
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We're going to have 4 undefeated teams not going to the playoff. That ruins a regular season much more.

There's probably 4 or more other teams who'd also be undefeated with their schedules.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9661 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:08 pm to
I'm cool with 8 but auto bids to conference champs come with conditions.

Conference champs from p5 get auto bids if they have no more than 2 losses, they are ranked in the top 12 and their 2 losses were to teams in the top 25. No 7-5 team needs to ever sniff a playoff spot.

3 at large. G5 team is fine as long as the bcs formula has them ranked in the top 8.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:17 pm to
I'm still waiting for clarification about all these fans who don't give a shite about the last few games of the year when, for example,

in 2018, a 5-6 Ole Miss sold out the Egg Bowl with 7-4 Miss. State.

in 2019, a 2-9 Georgia Tech sold out their game with Georgia.

in 2018, a 5-6 FSU sold out their game with Florida.

in 2018, a 4-6 Virginia Tech sold out its game with Virginia.

Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.
Posted by Hogfan13
Member since Jul 2019
2945 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:54 pm to
I think 27 is the right number. And it should be double elimination.

First 3 seeds get a bye in the winner’s bracket. 4th seed receives a 2nd round bye, provided they win their first round game. If they don’t, the second round bye obviously goes to the team that beat them (27th seed, in my proposed bracket).

Second round of the loser’s bracket will feature a bye, as will several other loser’s bracket rounds. In each instance, the highest seed remaining, who hasn’t already had a bye, receives the bye. Once we get two teams who have already had byes vying for the next bye, each team selects a team captain and they play Rock Paper Scissors to decide the bye (best 2 out of 3 of course).

The highest seed in any game gets to select the location of the game in my perfect bracket.
Posted by Walnut
College Station, TX
Member since Nov 2014
3557 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:01 pm to
8 would be enough but I would still like 16 just fine too

FCS has 16 teams in the playoffs and they always end up being competitive, and D2 invites a whopping 28 teams to post season and those end up being fierce as well

Don't be afraid of more games
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