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re: If Saban left after 2021..
Posted on 7/14/21 at 8:25 pm to TideFaninFl
Posted on 7/14/21 at 8:25 pm to TideFaninFl
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I am sorry, but there is no school like Alabama.
You may be 100% right, but I don’t agree with that statement.
As of 2021, there is no school that can match Alabama’s past success on the football field. That statement may still be true in 5000 years.
The school obviously played a role:
1) They hired Saban.
2) They gave him the resources that he needed to be successful and to achieve GOAT status.
3) They also hired Bryant, and Im sure they helped him achieve his GOAT status.
4) Fan support and a million other reasons.. etc
Those two are the greatest two coaches in college football history. Perhaps Dabo or Urban or someone else challenges that status one day, but it would take a lot to even get in the same hemisphere.
All that being said, I believe it is completely possible that one or both of those coaches COULD have achieved similar results at a different school.
Take Nick Saban as an example.
If he had never left LSU, where he won his first National Championshp, and where Les Freaking Miles won another National Championship just 4 years later, with many players that Saban recruited.. it is IMPOSSIBLE for you to definitively say that Saban wouldn’t have won the same number of championships.
Perhaps he could have won even won more at LSU. You can argue that this isn’t true all day long, but it certainly is possible..
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Posted on 7/14/21 at 8:35 pm to Globetrotter747
Time to compete for NC:
Year 1: UGA, Clemson, Ohio State, OU
Year 2: UF, Oregon, LSU, UF, UT and ND
Year 3: Michigan, Penn State, AU, FSU
Never: Vandy, Duke, Northwestern, BC, Wake Forest, IU, WA ST, Ore St, Kansas, K State
4-5 years: everyone else
Year 1: UGA, Clemson, Ohio State, OU
Year 2: UF, Oregon, LSU, UF, UT and ND
Year 3: Michigan, Penn State, AU, FSU
Never: Vandy, Duke, Northwestern, BC, Wake Forest, IU, WA ST, Ore St, Kansas, K State
4-5 years: everyone else
Posted on 7/14/21 at 8:42 pm to BigBro
Are we really that bored that we need to discuss never ever ever ever going to happen hypotheticals?
Ok I guess we are. Fair.
Ok I guess we are. Fair.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 8:48 pm to BigBro
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Take Nick Saban as an example.
If he had never left LSU, where he won his first National Championshp, and where Les Freaking Miles won another National Championship just 4 years later, with many players that Saban recruited.. it is IMPOSSIBLE for you to definitively say that Saban wouldn’t have won the same number of championships.
Perhaps he could have won even won more at LSU. You can argue that this isn’t true all day long, but it certainly is possible..
There ain't one son of a bitch on this board who honestly thinks that Alabama would have anywhere near as many national titles this century as LSU if Saban had never left.
Alabama was fricking desperate in 2007. Not only were they struggling on the field and getting their asses kicked five times in a row by Auburn, but they were getting turned down in their coaching searches. If Saban were not in the picture, who the frick would have ended up with that job after Shula? Damn sure nobody who was beating an established Saban at LSU.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 8:58 pm to abellsujr
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Are we really that bored that we need to discuss never ever ever ever going to happen hypotheticals?
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:02 pm to BigBro
Let us all sing The Impossible Dream!
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:02 pm to Globetrotter747
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If Saban were not in the picture, who the frick would have ended up with that job after Shula? Damn sure nobody who was beating an established Saban at LSU.
Not sure on the timing.. but the answer is..
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:04 pm to BigBro
He is retiring this year but not to coach anything
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:06 pm to BigBro
He's 75 years old, why would he go start over somewhere else now?
Unless he wants to move somewhere he can start a political career once he's done coaching, since he's extremely liberal and even Nick Saban couldn't get elected as a Democrat in Alabama (unless the fine folks of Alabama's moral majority want to throw another pedo on the GOP ticket)
Unless he wants to move somewhere he can start a political career once he's done coaching, since he's extremely liberal and even Nick Saban couldn't get elected as a Democrat in Alabama (unless the fine folks of Alabama's moral majority want to throw another pedo on the GOP ticket)
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:24 pm to BowlJackson
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He's 75 years old, why would he go start over somewhere else now?
My brain is just a mysterious ball of strange ideas and random thoughts.. and I thought it was an interesting topic to discuss, not because I think that he would leave.. he wouldn’t imo..
Of course I wanted Texas to hire Saban back in 2013 when Mack was leaving.. and I also wanted Texas to hire Urban this past year when Herman was leaving..
That being said, I was cautiously optimistic at first with the Sark hire, but after seeing the staff he was able to put together, I am 100% on board and I think he is capable of getting Texas into the playoffs.
To be fair, I thought Herman was the right guy too until I saw the staff that he had hired. If he had initially hired the staff he had last year, Herman would likely still be the coach at Texas.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 11:44 pm to BigBro
What the hell is this?
The key to trolling is to at least be funny. At least a little.
The key to trolling is to at least be funny. At least a little.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:44 am to Globetrotter747
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There ain't one son of a bitch on this board who honestly thinks that Alabama would have anywhere near as many national titles this century as LSU if Saban had never left.
A lot of variables in that statement. Coach Meyer and Coach Swinney have both won NCs this century so there is no guarantee Coach Saban does as well at LSU as he has at Alabama
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Alabama was fricking desperate in 2007. Not only were they struggling on the field and getting their asses kicked five times in a row by Auburn, but they were getting turned down in their coaching searches. If Saban were not in the picture, who the frick would have ended up with that job after Shula? Damn sure nobody who was beating an established Saban at LSU.
Alabama was coming off sanctions when Coach Saban came to Alabama. Alabama was not as "desperate" as you think. If they were, and the Alabama job was that bad, then how did Alabama hire Coach Saban?
Think before posting next time
Posted on 7/15/21 at 2:33 am to BigBro
I think what your getting is the concept, is there a coach out there that could be hired that’s an almost guaranteed championship, and I do buy that Nick can be a hired gun and win a championship at a third school, at least that’s part of what a third school has to sell, but it’s not a guarantee just a great bet
But I am not going to entertain that thought if the playoffs are really headed to 12 schools, bc then it won’t matter as much, the 12 best schools will get in, most likely those that recruit in the top 15 annually and have a top 15 coach, coaches will be judged regular season vs post, a lot will change in a few years
But I am not going to entertain that thought if the playoffs are really headed to 12 schools, bc then it won’t matter as much, the 12 best schools will get in, most likely those that recruit in the top 15 annually and have a top 15 coach, coaches will be judged regular season vs post, a lot will change in a few years
Posted on 7/15/21 at 2:38 am to Haricougar
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25 milllion a year?
Yeah that be be on the aTm level……
Posted on 7/15/21 at 5:30 am to BigBro
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Thoughts?
Stop posting
Posted on 7/15/21 at 5:40 am to TheFourHorsemen
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Saban could not win a title at Miss St, South Carolina, Ole Miss type school.
This is sad. Such failure mentality. You’re so beat down as a fan you don’t think even the GOAT coach can turn you into a winner.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 6:43 am to TideFaninFl
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A lot of variables in that statement. Coach Meyer and Coach Swinney have both won NCs this century so there is no guarantee Coach Saban does as well at LSU as he has at Alabama
I don’t believe I said Saban would have done “as well” at LSU as he has at Bama, although I think that’s quite possible. I said Saban would have done better at LSU than whoever Bama hires in 2007 and beyond.
Do you disagree with that?
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Alabama was coming off sanctions when Coach Saban came to Alabama. Alabama was not as "desperate" as you think. If they were, and the Alabama job was that bad, then how did Alabama hire Coach Saban?
Because he was ready to return to the college game, it was the only big-time job open, and Bama offered him a record contract?
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Think before posting next time.
Work on your reading comprehension.
Because Saban > Bama, which was my point, is the reason we have all these threads.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:48 am to Oklahomey
Saban could get any program to a MNC, given enough time
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:54 am to 3down10
Exactly, however if he stays, and retires and does not coach again. He gets paid for the rest of his life.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:59 am to BigBro
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If Saban left after 2021.
He would immediately turn into the LSU version. The perfect storm would be over and out.
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