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Posted on 7/16/21 at 1:43 am to BigBro
Posted on 7/16/21 at 1:43 am to BigBro
Texas already looking for ANOTHER head coach HAHAHAHA
SABAN ALREADY WHIFFED AT YOU
Oh and so did Urban. Times are really tough in Austin and not getting better anytime soon
SABAN ALREADY WHIFFED AT YOU
Oh and so did Urban. Times are really tough in Austin and not getting better anytime soon
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:46 am to Globetrotter747
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Unless I’m mistaken Alabama was never #1 in any poll from 1983-2006.
You are most certainly not mistaken but Alabama never spent much time at #1 under Bear Bryant either. Even though he won three national championships with Alabama in the 1960s, the Tide under Bryant during that decade spent a grand total of four weeks at #1 during the actual regular season. In 1961, Alabama wasn't ranked #1 until the Iron Bowl and in 1964 and 1965, they didn't reach #1 until the final polls were released. Alabama spent three weeks at #1 at various times in 1962.
In the 1970s, Alabama appeared a little more frequently in the top spot. We spent two weeks at #1 in 1973, three weeks at #1 in 1978, and six weeks at #1 in 1979. In 1980, Alabama would spend seven weeks in the top spot. When you add all of that up, Alabama spent 22 weeks at #1 under Bryant. After the loss to Mississippi State on November 1, 1980, Alabama wouldn't be ranked #1 during the regular season again until November 2, 2008. Since that week, Alabama has held the top spot 87 more times - far eclipsing what Bryant accomplished.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 6:34 am to TideFaninFl
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Maybe, maybe not, he did not show anything like what he has become until he got to Alabama.
The recruiting benefit of a proven track record of success is invaluable to a college coach. Saban had that when he went to Bama. He didn’t when he went to LSU. That (plus a few more years experience) is the difference.
You think Dabo Swinney has an easier time recruiting today than he did in 2009 as a promoted position coach? Does Trevor Lawrence go to Clemson in 2009?
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:40 am to TideFaninFl
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Maybe, maybe not, he did not show anything like what he has become until he got to Alabama
This has been explained to you, I'm sorry you can't understand it.
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Many of you want to point to 1983-2006 for Alabama not being special, yet Alabama had a 171-105-1 record with ncaa sanctions, with accusations of the ncaa swirling around hurting recruiting, with lousy coaches.
If Alabama is so "special," why were they cheating and hiring lousy coaches?
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:57 am to SidewalkTiger
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Maybe, maybe not, he did not show anything like what he has become until he got to Alabama
This has been explained to you, I'm sorry you can't understand it.
Oh child, SMH.... life is difficult for you isn't it? Perhaps you need someone to hold your hand and explain what the adults are talking about.
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If Alabama is so "special," why were they cheating and hiring lousy coaches?
Bobby Bowden was coming to T'town in 1987, but Joab Thomas messed that up and hired Bill Curry (but Bill did win an SEC title).
The cheating was signing a napkin after winning a NC,
cheating was sharing textbooks with students that could not afford them,
cheating was a player having a car three years before the car was built,
cheating was saying a man paid a player when even the head coach of the player said it did not happen.
Look, I do not think Alabama is totally innocent, but I know (or knew) some of the people involved, most of it did not happen
But because of this several coaches from 1996 to 2006 were substandard by Alabama terms, yet Alabama won the SEC in 1999, and was on the cusp of winning a few more times (2005 until several players got injured for one)
From 1983-2006, a down time for Alabama, they still won 3 SEC titles, and a NC
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:58 am to TideFaninFl
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Oh child, SMH.... life is difficult for you isn't it? Perhaps you need someone to hold your hand and explain what the adults are talking about.
I'm not the one struggling to understand why Saban won more at Alabama than at LSU.
Miles also won more at LSU than Saban did, by your logic, he's a better coach because of that.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:26 am to SidewalkTiger
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I'm not the one struggling to understand why Saban won more at Alabama than at LSU.
It is because Alabama has the "it" factor. It is the reason why Alabama is #1 or close to #1 in all the important stats, as I have shown. Thank you for finally seeing the light.
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Miles also won more at LSU than Saban did, by your logic, he's a better coach because of that
Miles coached at LSU longer
Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:33 am to TideFaninFl
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Miles coached at LSU longer
I'm comparing Miles' first five years at LSU to Saban's five.
So again, by your logic, Miles is the better coach because he won more at the same program.
See how utterly moronic you sound?
Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:34 am to SidewalkTiger
The funny thing is Alabama mostly sucked in the seasons immediately prior to the hiring of both Saban and Bryant. They both pulled Alabama out of dark times while they were busy winning elsewhere - but yet, Bama somehow made them.
If anything, Alabama’s “unrivaled commitment to winning” was probably more important pre-Bryant than it is now. With all the money in CFB today, more programs are committed to winning than ever before. A lot of programs have nice stadiums that are regularly filled, great facilities, and sit in a strong population base. But every program can’t buy a Saban because there’s only one, and Alabama was damn lucky to get him with how things played out in 2007.
If anything, Alabama’s “unrivaled commitment to winning” was probably more important pre-Bryant than it is now. With all the money in CFB today, more programs are committed to winning than ever before. A lot of programs have nice stadiums that are regularly filled, great facilities, and sit in a strong population base. But every program can’t buy a Saban because there’s only one, and Alabama was damn lucky to get him with how things played out in 2007.
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:47 am to SidewalkTiger
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I'm comparing Miles' first five years at LSU to Saban's five.
So again, by your logic, Miles is the better coach because he won more at the same program.
5 years-
Coach Saban 47-16,
Coach Miles 51-15 (with three more games)
Really a wash
It was not until Coach Saban came to Alabama that he became a great coach.
Thank you for proving, again, that Alabama is special
Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:56 am to Globetrotter747
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The funny thing is Alabama mostly sucked in the seasons immediately prior to the hiring of both Saban and Bryant. They both pulled Alabama out of dark times while they were busy winning elsewhere - but yet, Bama somehow made them.
1950's- Alabama did fairly well the early part of the decade, but from 1954-1957 did they have trouble.
2000's- Alabama was on probation for most of the early years.
Both Coach Bryant and Coach Saban were good coaches, but it was not until they came to Alabama did they become great. I mean the stats show that fact.
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If anything, Alabama’s “unrivaled commitment to winning” was probably more important pre-Bryant than it is now. With all the money in CFB today, more programs are committed to winning than ever before. A lot of programs have nice stadiums that are regularly filled, great facilities, and sit in a strong population base.
So why exactly is Alabama running away from literally everybody in college football? If you say Coach Saban, then why did it happen only at Alabama?
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:18 am to BigBro
remote possibility if OSU gets alot of key injuries before Michigan game but the talent disparity is very wide still.Harbaugh doesnt get the athletes OSU gets ...Just like Tenneseee doesnt get the athletes Alabama gets ...
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:37 am to TideFaninFl
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years-
Coach Saban 47-16,
Coach Miles 51-15 (with three more games)
Really a wash
So by your logic, Miles is just as good of a coach as Saban.
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It was not until Coach Saban came to Alabama that he became a great coach.
What a delusional fricking homer
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:39 am to TideFaninFl
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So why exactly is Alabama running away from literally everybody in college football?
Um, they haven't in the modern era, outside of Saban's time there.
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If you say Coach Saban, then why did it happen only at Alabama?
I mean he built a pretty damn good program at LSU.
Miles won a title and would have another if not for Saban.
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:44 am to SidewalkTiger
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So by your logic, Miles is just as good of a coach as Saban.
At LSU, yes. I will not look it up, but you do some research and tell me Coach Saban at MSU compared to Coach Miles at OSU.
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What a delusional fricking homer
So you are saying Coach Saban was a great coach before he came to Alabama? How about Coach Bryant?
My God child, at least pretend to be somewhat intelligent.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:45 am to TideFaninFl
out of 5 games ? big deal . you know darn well if OSU was in SEC they and BAMA would be .500 against each other for the most part . put us in week 9 instead of the citadel or new mex st and come up to C bus in late October for your arse whipping .
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:52 am to TideFaninFl
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So you are saying Coach Saban was a great coach before he came to Alabama?
Yes. He was known as a great recruiter and defensive mind and had already built a national championship winning program at LSU.
He also had been hired as an NFL head coach.
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How about Coach Bryant?
Yes. He basically won a national title at Kentucky of all places.
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My God child, at least pretend to be somewhat intelligent.
You still haven't been able to come up with a single thing that Alabama can offer a head coach that any other elite program can't
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:53 am to SidewalkTiger
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Um, they haven't in the modern era, outside of Saban's time there.
What do you define as the modern Era? I mean we are headed into a second decade of this, and it could go into a third.
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I mean he built a pretty damn good program at LSU.
LSU is a good program, not Alabama good, but none are. Even Auburn won a title and played for another recently, as did Georgia, so the SEC is a very good football conference (5 of the top 13 schools in wins are in the SEC)
Posted on 7/17/21 at 3:42 pm to TideFaninFl
I was completely speculating in the OP, but I just had an interesting conversation with a well connected Alabama booster.. and apparently Saban is done coaching after this year. Apparently that is why BOB took the OC job as he will be given the keys next year..
Posted on 7/17/21 at 6:41 pm to deeprig9
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If he went to another large established program, he'd be 3 years from another NC appearance.
If he wanted to build up something from scratch, probably 6 years.
LSU had good history, but we were in the dumps when Saban was hired.
He won the SEC in year two, and the natty in year four. I imagine it would be similar if he went to a place like West Virginia.
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