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re: Ty cracked a rib before half... Deboer kept him in?!!
Posted by tide06 on 1/2/26 at 8:37 am to Night Vision
Yeah point was in response to indignation over a player playing hurt, this is nothing new for us or a ton of other teams.
I was wanting to see a QB change weeks ago and was livid when against E IL we were letting him throw directly at safeties, but it was clear last year that starting QBs get a ton of rope under CKD so I’m not sure why anyone is surprised it was left to him to decide.
Realistically based on what we saw from Mack and the defense it probably wasn’t going to matter today.
I was wanting to see a QB change weeks ago and was livid when against E IL we were letting him throw directly at safeties, but it was clear last year that starting QBs get a ton of rope under CKD so I’m not sure why anyone is surprised it was left to him to decide.
Realistically based on what we saw from Mack and the defense it probably wasn’t going to matter today.
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re: Ty cracked a rib before half... Deboer kept him in?!!
Posted by tide06 on 1/2/26 at 8:28 am to bamabonners
Greg McElroy played the SECCG and NC with broken ribs in 2009.
Bama played (Adj Rush Def)
OU (2)
UGA (8)
OU (2)
IU (4)
OU (2)
UGA (8)
OU (2)
IU (4)
re: Why allow a hurt QB to play after half?!
Posted by tide06 on 1/2/26 at 12:24 am to TheTideMustRoll
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If he were hurt that badly he wouldn't have been playing. You're just reaching at this point.
Im stating facts as reported by the press, his family and what I’ve seen with my own eyes at the games.
You have an opinion with regard to a player and have provided zero evidence to support it.
You don’t seem to understand that players play “hurt” all the time. Some play hurt to a degree that their play is hampered. When you can no longer play at all you are “injured” and show up on the non participation report.
Ty is not a perfect player healthy, he made plenty of mistakes before the injury took place and clearly has mental confidence issues he’s talked about. That doesn’t mean he isn’t hurt in a way that’s impacting his functional capacity to play the QB position.
re: Why allow a hurt QB to play after half?!
Posted by tide06 on 1/2/26 at 12:16 am to TheTideMustRoll
Ok well I guess you know better than his family, the media and apparently the UA medical staff.
I guarantee he will have at least one if not multiple procedures when he gets back to Alabama.
I guarantee he will have at least one if not multiple procedures when he gets back to Alabama.
re: Why allow a hurt QB to play after half?!
Posted by tide06 on 1/2/26 at 12:12 am to TheTideMustRoll
So you think he’s not hurt?
Or just that a back injury requiring him to get treatment on the sideline just to play isn’t impacting the ability of a QB to function at his previous level while getting chased by 280lb athletes trying to hit him without a run game to lean on?
Or just that a back injury requiring him to get treatment on the sideline just to play isn’t impacting the ability of a QB to function at his previous level while getting chased by 280lb athletes trying to hit him without a run game to lean on?
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In that case the coaches fricked up
We thought they messed up last year not benching Milroe, turns out no one else was ready.
We have no idea what they were seeing from Mack in practice, but what I saw today before I turned it off wasn’t consistently good.
Ty was hurt, but able to play until he wasn’t today. Unfortunately I suspect we just didn’t have anyone championship ready behind him and with no running game you get what you got today.
I never once thought this was a championship level team due to the OL and running issues so maybe I’m just more appreciative of what they did and less angry at what they didn’t do than most.
We beat LSU, TN and AU along with wins at UGA and OU along with making the CFP and winning a game there. That’s a pretty damn good year for a team with an obvious ceiling and many flaws.
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Yeah that’s why they called a run play for him vs an FCS team back in Nov
Ty’s dad says he’s hurt.
Ty said he’s hurt.
TV says he’s hurt.
He’s been getting treatment on the sidelines and on video.
I’m not sure what the debate is here.
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But he was still throwing and completing passes. With force.
Not how he was before the injury.
Every single metric, every single passing chart, PFF, SP+ related analysis… they all show he went from NFL 1.1 level passing pre-injury to barely starter level.
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I dont believe it, doesn't keep him from making the right reads.
You ever throw a disc in your neck or back?
The list of things you do well is short and it throws off even basic mechanical tasks.
re: Why allow a hurt QB to play after half?!
Posted by tide06 on 1/1/26 at 10:19 pm to bamabonners
He’s been injured since the end of the Missouri game.
You can trace his injury back to when his stats fell off.
He went from Heisman front runner to Milroe level production.
You can trace his injury back to when his stats fell off.
He went from Heisman front runner to Milroe level production.
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Byrne made a huge mistake here with Cignetti sitting right there at JMU. You would think Saban would have an inkling he would be a legit HC. I guess he had no influence in the hire?
No one in the country thought Cignetti was elite at that point which is why he was at JMU and his jump up job was the worst P4 team in the nation.
re: I just went back and watched the Washington/Texas game from 2 years ago….
Posted by tide06 on 1/1/26 at 9:19 pm to FairhopeTider
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When was the last time we had an explosive play for a TD?
I’m convinced they didn’t think Ty could throw deep due to injury issues because the UW offense had more vertical passing routes than any team in the nation that year.
So either they weren’t calling them due to whatever they saw in practice or Ty just wasn’t throwing them.
re: Speaker Johnson turned over to FEC…….$5.8MM in smurfing scam.
Posted by tide06 on 1/1/26 at 9:12 pm to Placekicker
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Could be true. Could be political pressure games.
Probably both.
Tells me that the Somali issue is widespread and likely ends up implicating people who matter.
I’m not convinced he should’ve been playing with his back situation from USCe on.
re: I just went back and watched the Washington/Texas game from 2 years ago….
Posted by tide06 on 1/1/26 at 9:02 pm to mistaken4193
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Just went back to see what a DeBoer offense looks like when it’s elite….a lot of it was just Penix throwing up tight contested throws and their WRs making great plays.
Yeah because Texas had an elite defense, the windows are always going to be small in the playoffs.
A) UM mauled everyone in the trenches that year, they had a near peak Saban defense
B) there’s a huge discrepancy in terms of the players you can recruit at UW vs Bama.
B) there’s a huge discrepancy in terms of the players you can recruit at UW vs Bama.
re: Alabama 3 @ Indiana 38 Final - ESPN
Posted by tide06 on 1/1/26 at 5:39 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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How did we not tackle him there!? I'm dumbfounded.
We’re sending people who don’t get home leaving our LBs out of position if the back hits their gap.
We got old/bad Kane today.
re: Alabama 3 @ Indiana 38 Final - ESPN
Posted by tide06 on 1/1/26 at 5:32 pm to Lucky_Stryke
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Wtf does a fg do
Make it a three score game.
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Grubb messed that drive up
Mack missed his receivers by 3 yards on two consecutive plays.
That’s not on the OC.
re: Alabama 3 @ Indiana 38 Final - ESPN
Posted by tide06 on 1/1/26 at 4:58 pm to Diego Ricardo
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It's the portal era and two years was often enough time to fix a bad OL for a new staff.
Very very few OLs get fixed in two years.
We have big fat slow soft guys who are poorly coached and don’t communicate.
They want light agile guys who can pull and can protect off the corner to let the QB connect on their deep passing tree.
We have exactly one of those guys (PB) and DeBoer brought him with him.
We haven’t had a plus OL since Sark left for Texas and our S/C has been atrocious with regard to getting players in shape during that window.
Proctor is 30lbs overweight and getting by on pure talent.
Our guards aren’t even replacement level and would probably rank 12th or so in the SEC.
Our RT is a TF and should probably be a guard.
Personally id be brining in a minimum of 4 guys on the OL with a desperate need for guys who can compete at C and guard.
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