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re: Carson Beck "purchases" Lambo valued at over $270k

Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67591 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:44 pm to
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Lambo valued at over $270k


how much is the insurance?
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4304 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:51 pm to
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How does this not create divide in the locker room? I know I’d be jealous if I was on the team


He's the starting QB.

UGA doesn't have recruits with huge NIL deals. But the starting QB at UGA is going to have NIL deals of a million dollars or so. Other big name starters also have big dollar NIL deals.

This avoids a divide because the guys at UGA making a ton of money are the guys who are making huge contributions to the team. You don't have a backup QB who was a big name recruit making more than the starter. It rewards performance.

At UGA, the better you play, the more NIL you make.
Posted by TeddyWestside
Georgia
Member since Jul 2017
2872 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:55 pm to
Besides the point, I know, but why are kids with tons of money buying a Lamborghini Urus? You have over a quarter million dollars to spend on a car, and you buy the world's most expensive compact SUV? Why not a Huracan? Why not a 296?

If you're going to buy a sports car, buy a sports car. If you're going to buy an SUV, buy a real SUV. Why buy a compact sports SUV made by Lamborghini?
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
913 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:57 pm to
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And the comment was pure sarcasm. It’s not like Beck was going pro. He’s a couple decades out what the league expects in a QB, he’s a tall statue with no instincts for the game. At best he’s a late round one contract guy. So absolutely taking his 4 million NiL deal to play at UGA one more year.


Ya know, early on. the UGA fanboards had a lot of dudes calling for BVG or Gunner to start over Beck. In hindsight, they look pretty dumb.
But even those guys would applaud the pessimism in your take on Beck. I don't think he'll be a stud in the NFL, but this reads like he'll be praying to even be a backup
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4304 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:01 pm to
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he’s a tall statue with no instincts for the game.


Hard to quantify "instincts", but he's not really a statue. WHile he's not a dual threat QB, he had over 100 yards rushing last season even factoring in sacks, and he was mobile enough (and instinctive enough) to not get sacked very often. Mobility wise he's about the same as Spencer Rattler. He's not immobile like Will Rogers or Graham Mertz (both negative yardage in rushing).

Your comment shows you don't really know much about his performance as a QB last season.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16043 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:04 pm to
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UGA doesn't have recruits with huge NIL deals


Ok..
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Georgia football players had a total of 776 NIL deals from July 2021 to Jan. 26, 2023, according to information obtained in open records by the Athens Banner-Herald


This avoids a divide because the guys at UGA making a ton of money are the guys who are making huge contributions to the team

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Gunner Stockton's NIL deal worth stands at an impressive $102,000 annually
Stocktons contributed 2 TDs and a Int and around 200 yards last year as the 3rd string QB
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Brock Vandagriff's NIL deal is valued at $924K
and he had similar stats.

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At UGA, the better you play, the more NIL you make.

So UGA does straight pay for play? Interesting.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38380 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:18 pm to
Fast cars and Georgia athletes are never a problem
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
3268 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:20 pm to
If you are wearing slides to go pick up your 270k 657 hp car.... That just seems like something is off
Posted by Cryptonbarton
Member since Sep 2022
414 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:06 pm to
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ask Lane

That’s Jaden Rashada. He was looking for $13mil not a Bentley
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
10944 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:19 pm to
Carson should buy the car instead of leasing. At least when he goes to sell he will get a lot of money.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4304 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:22 pm to
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So UGA does straight pay for play? Interesting.


That's not what pay for play is.

Pay for play is not about getting paid based on performance. It's about pay being tied to enrollment at a school.

UGA's players get paid more for higher performance because those who perform better are more famous, and fame drives advertising and endorsements that are the backbone of what NIL is supposed to be.

Starters get paid more because people know who they are and that means they have more NIL value.

They don't get a NIL deal in order to attend UGA. THAT is what pay to play is.

As for the numbers you put up, pretty much every player at UGA gets between 30-50 grand a year in NIL, even walk-ons. UGA walk-ons generally get enough NIL to cover room, board and tuition plus some extra. Effectively a NIL scholarship.

The numbers you put for Stockton and Vandagriff are "valuations", not actual NIL deal numbers. And Vandagriff's is his UK valuation, not at UGA. I wouldn't be shocked if either were making around 100 grand at UGA given they're QB's and that brings more name recognition.

UGA maintains their locker room by not having collectives that pay unproven HS recruits huge NIL deals to come to UGA. That creates scenarios where backups are raking in more money than starters which creates schisms in the locker room. At UGA, NIL deals are based on fame which is mostly becuase of performance. That keeps locker room issues from happening. I say "mostly" because there are some oddities. Tate Ratledge has a NIL deal with Barstool sports because of his mullett for example. Brock Vandagriff had one based on his impressive beard. But for the most part it's about who's made a name for themselves by playing football.

That is how NIL was intended to work. Fame from performance is supposed to drive getting NIL deals... not signing NIL deals driving players to sign at your school.

UGA is doing it the way the NCAA wants teams to do it. Tennessee is not.
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
10746 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:24 pm to
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How does this not create divide in the locker room? I know I’d be jealous if I was on the team


A. College football locker rooms have almost always been divided into the haves and have-nots.

B. You have to be a tiny little baby to be mad that someone else is making money.
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
10944 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:25 pm to
Well said
Posted by Cryptonbarton
Member since Sep 2022
414 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:27 pm to
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He's not immobile like Will Rogers or Graham Mertz (both negative yardage in rushing).

Even with those horrible rushing numbers Mertz evaded a lot of sacks and actually became an effective runner by the end of the season. I would personally put him just outside of the statue designation. I am not bias
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4304 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:31 pm to
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Even with those horrible rushing numbers Mertz evaded a lot of sacks and actually became an effective runner by the end of the season. I would personally put him just outside of the statue designation. I am not bias


I'll accept your evaluation.

I probably watched as much Graham Mertz football as the other guy watched Carson Beck.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33020 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:37 pm to
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He’s a couple decades out what the league expects in a QB, he’s a tall statue with no instincts for the game. At best he’s a late round one contract guy.


Thank god we are back to wildly awful smokeyone takes about uga players. Been too long, but keep em coming.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33132 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:39 pm to
What a dumb purchase
Posted by BDoubleEZ
Burleson, TX
Member since Sep 2021
660 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:41 pm to
With the way they drive over at UGA, he won't be around too long.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
6042 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:42 pm to
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Good for him. Make that money young man!


Hmm. Does purchasing a $270k car = making money? (I have no idea the terms of the deal, just making a statement)

Curious to see how many of these kids making millions have anything left once their talent runs out, or they get injured... and they are left with their 8th grade equivalent education.

Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:46 pm to
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His NIL value is like $1.1M, so if THAT doesn't divide the locker room, I don't see how this purchase would.
This is a drop in the bucket with that kind of money to throw around.




someone doesn't understand taxation
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