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re: Arkansas's lack of recruiting
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:58 pm to Topwater Trout
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:58 pm to Topwater Trout
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why would a 5 star 18yr old want to go to Fayetville if he isn't an Arkansas fan?
Why would he want to go to Baton Rouge?
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:59 pm to stormyhog
Talent in ark sucks And who wants to be a pig. Arrogant fans.need to be in BIG 12
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:59 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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How would you rank the SEC States?
Florida
Texas
Georgia
Louisiana
Alabama
Tennessee
Missouri
South Carolina
Miss'ippi
Kentucky
Arkansas
Imo, iyam
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:00 pm to cardboardboxer
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It is only part of the answer, because Arkansas used to be a national brand at one point. Nixon going to the game and all.
There are always going to be little factors but the in state talent alone is the biggest and it really isn't close. It points to the whole reason we need to recruit Texas.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:01 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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How would you rank the SEC States?
Florida and Texas obviously at the top, but how would the rest go?
Tier 1
Florida
Texas
Georgia
Tier 2
Louisiana
Alabama
Tennessee
Mississippi
South Carolina
Missouri
Tier 3
Kentucky
Arkansas
This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:03 pm to pankReb
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Main recruiting area is north Arkansas, South Missouri, and East whateverhellstateiswestofthat.
You forget that Louisiana is to the south and Texas isn't too far away?
Bert pulled quite a bit of talent out of Florida as well.
Its not like we cant get it done, unlike Ole Miss though, we dont use hookers to attract players (unfortunately)
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:03 pm to stormyhog
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Fayetteville
Most locations with "ville" in its name is probably too MAGA for top tier recruits that can go anywhere. 3* will hedge to be in the SEC. None that could put you in the Top 10 or 20.
This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:04 pm to Vecchio Cane
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Florida
Texas
Georgia
Louisiana
Clearly the top 4
I think the others can change a lot depending on the years but that looks about right.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:04 pm to rockiee
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There are always going to be little factors but the in state talent alone is the biggest and it really isn't close. It points to the whole reason we need to recruit Texas.
I guess my point was that when Nixon went to that 1969 game Arkansas WAS using Texas boys to be a name brand program. And back then it was very normal for kids to play out of state.
Another example: why does Nebraska suck now? You could point to their local talent, which sucks, but that would ignore the years when they dominated despite that shitty local talent. So instead you have to look at what changed for them, and it was obviously the end of semi-qualified athletes, a destruction of their pipeline to Compton (partially because they kids couldn't qualify anymore), and a greater distribution football games on TV that made their brand less special.
This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:05 pm to stormyhog
It’s coming this regime will get you there
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:06 pm to thunderbird1100
Lousiana and Missouri in the same tier is a crime.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:06 pm to cardboardboxer
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The real answer is two-fold:
1. Their local talent sucks.
2. Texas successfully blackballed them after they left the SWC for the SEC and basically made the program irrelevant for the next few generations of Texas kids who came up after that time.
This/ is the best answer. I don't agree that it's because Texas blackballed us, but far less exposure in Texas has been huge.
Btw, we've actually played Texas a few times since we left the SWC, and once even put the series on hold, so we could play USC-W. Texas is scheduled to come to Fayetteville in 2021 right now and the game's scheduled for 9/11...
This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:07 pm to cardboardboxer
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Lousiana and Missouri in the same tier is a crime.
That's not saying they are equal, that's just putting a slike minded states together as I could. Louisiana certainly doesnt belong with Florida, Texas or Georgia compared to Alabama, Mississippi, etc...
Missouri was at the bottom of Tier 2, could argue they should be above South Carolina though
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:08 pm to rockiee
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think the others can change a lot depending on the years but that looks about right.
Yep. I think most posters will undervalue Missouri just because of the Mizzou program of the past 2-3 years. Just based on population that state will turn out more CFB players than most in the league
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:09 pm to cardboardboxer
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I guess my point was that when Nixon went to that 1969 game Arkansas WAS using Texas boys to be a name brand program. And back then it was very normal for kids to play out of state.
Sure, I took the question more as to why can't it happen now.
You can definitely point to many things along the way starting in the 70s that slowly made the lack of instate talent more impactfull because we were not pulling as many Texas kids.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:09 pm to stormyhog
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stormyhog
So are you the ho who screwed or didn't screw the President?
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:11 pm to cardboardboxer
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Lousiana and Missouri in the same tier is a crime.
Agreed, Louisiana deserves to be in tier 1 more than tier 2
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:11 pm to stormyhog
Gus Malzahn?
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:13 pm to tigercreole
TF?
GainsVILLE, KnoxVILLE? Granted Florida and Tennessee have sucked recently, but they still draw recruits.
You really think conservative local politics deters recruits? Don't be stupid. If it did then why doesn't the SEC lose recruits to the PAC?
GainsVILLE, KnoxVILLE? Granted Florida and Tennessee have sucked recently, but they still draw recruits.
You really think conservative local politics deters recruits? Don't be stupid. If it did then why doesn't the SEC lose recruits to the PAC?
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:14 pm to weremoose
Arkansas might be known as racist, but it doesnt matter what your color is. If you suck, your truck will get lit on fire
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