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re: 1-7 scheduling model gaining momentum per SI’s Ross Dellinger

Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17225 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:33 pm to
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Eta
I want 3-6 personally but I see why some schools like USC, Kentucky, Arkansas, State, Mizzou, would want 1-7
That you, Ronnie Milsap? frick no we don't want that. Speak for LSU, because you don't speak for us.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:36 pm to
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I understand the LSU thing but you played SEC/big OOC home games during the day pre-1992.

1984 Notre Dame - 2:50 PM
1985 Alabama - 2:50 PM
1986 Ole Miss - 2:30 PM
1987 Ohio State - 1:30 PM
1988 Ole Miss - 11:30 AM
1989 Tennessee - 12:00 PM

Was that part of the college football association tv deal saga?


Not sure if someone already answered this but yes, the 87 Ohio State Game (I was there) was on CBS back when Brent Musburger was I think doing football paly by play. the 85 LSU/Bama game, which I still wonder how the hell LSU did not win (it ended in a tie) was I think the last time Keith Jackson and Frank Broyles did a game in Tiger Stadium (I was there for that one).

IF ESPN picked up your games in the 80's, you were on in prime time (86 LSU/Notre Dame game was prime time ESPN, there for that one as well).

Posted by gamecockman12
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
5994 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:38 pm to
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There are a lot of long-standing games between teams with huge fan bases. Replacing Tennessee with (no offense) Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, etc. is just dumb.


To be fair not many people outside of Alabama or Tennessee are interested in that game at all. Hence why it probably isn't carrying a lot of weight in the 3-6 vs. 1-7 argument going on within the SEC at the moment.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65066 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:41 pm to
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To be fair not many people outside of Alabama or Tennessee are interested in that game at all.

Hereinlies the issue I think a lot of us have. Why should it matter if fans of other schools don't care about the games that are important to the fan bases involved?
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29716 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:42 pm to
What schools are the strongest supporters of the 1-7 model?

That would be interesting to know…
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36139 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:43 pm to
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Main influences at the moment are around maximizing SEC bowl/playoff berths, which the majority now believe is best accomplished via 1-7.

Prime example of how money is destroying the sport. 100 year rivalries? Nah. Give us the most profitable set up. Tradition is taking a backseat and tradition is what makes college football special


The traditional games are the value added games. Yes, it will be fun to see Oklahoma and Georgia or Florida and Texas play. But those games are just not as valuable as:
Georgia vs Florida
Texas vs Oklahoma
Texas vs A&M
Georgia vs Auburn
Florida vs LSU
etc.

Playing everyone in the conference is great. But not at the cost of the games that define college football.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26587 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:43 pm to
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To be fair not many people outside of Alabama or Tennessee are interested in that game at all.

Hereinlies the issue I think a lot of us have. Why should it matter if fans of other schools don't care about the games that are important to the fan bases involved?


My take has always been if the two teams want to play, let them do it. For instance, on this site, it appears many LSU and Florida fans want to keep that annual tilt. So I say let 'em play.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26587 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:44 pm to
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To be fair not many people outside of Alabama or Tennessee are interested in that game at all.


I don't know how you determined this, or if you're just guessing.
Posted by LSUScores
Member since Oct 2015
984 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:44 pm to
Ugh terrible option
Posted by gamecockman12
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
5994 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:46 pm to
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Hereinlies the issue I think a lot of us have. Why should it matter if fans of other schools don't care about the games that are important to the fan bases involved?


Because no matter what solution they come up with, there is going to be fanbases that aren't happy with it. I personally think the 3-6 model is better, even if it is tougher on my school with having Clemson as an annual opponent.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:52 pm to
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To be fair not many people outside of Alabama or Tennessee are interested in that game at all


Alabama/Tennessee hits cable season-high, tops week eight

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Last Saturday’s Tennessee-Alabama college football game averaged a 2.6 rating and 4.68 million viewers on ESPN, marking the highest rated and most-watched game of the season on cable. The Crimson Tide’s win also ranked as the top game of the weekend, the first time since Week 2 in 2018 that a cable game topped the charts.*



And yet, people watch it. More than people watch most other Alabama games, and almost as many as a lot of Alabama games on braodcast (so it isn't an "Alabama thing" only).

1. Alabama/Auburn (10.4M) (CBS)
2. Alabama/A&M (8.3M) (CBS)
3. Alabama/Florida (7.9M) (CBS)
4. Alabama/Miami (5.7M) (ABC)
5. Alabama/Arkansas (5.5M) (CBS)
6. Alabama/LSU (5.1M) (ESPN)
7. Alabama/Ole Miss (4.8M) (CBS)
8. Alabama/Tennessee (4.7M) (ESPN)

1. LSU/Alabama (5.0M) (ESPN)
2.Tennessee/Alabama (4.7M) (ESPN)
3. Arkansas/Georgia (3.85M) (ESPN)
4. Auburn/LSU (3.79M) (ESPN)
5. Alabama/Miss St (3.5M) (ESPN)
6. Texas/Arkansas (3.4M) (ESPN)
7. Tennessee/Florida (3.2M) (ESPN)
8. Louisville/Ole Miss (3.1M) (ESPN)
9. Kentucky/Florida (3.1M) (ESPN)
10. Florida/LSU (2.9M) (ESPN)

It was the 2nd highest rated game on cable last season
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25886 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:52 pm to
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What schools are the strongest supporters of the 1-7 model?

The expansion teams who don’t have traditional rivalries and the worse historical programs that want to make it easier to make bowl games.
Posted by PineyWoodsHog
Texas
Member since Sep 2021
1561 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:57 pm to
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What schools are the strongest supporters of the 1-7 model?

The expansion teams


Source? Didn't think so. I actually would like to see how each school is voting though.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25886 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 12:59 pm to
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Source?

Common sense
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
4980 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:08 pm to
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Because outside of Georgia, Bama, Florida, Auburn, and UTe, who has 2 true rivals?


LSU would have UF & Bama
aTM would have Arky & Texas
Texas would have A&M & OU
OU would have Texas & Missoui
Posted by GreyReb
Member since Jun 2010
3901 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:12 pm to
Would Ole Miss and LSU schedule in years they aren’t playing?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:14 pm to
Alabama - Auburn, Tennessee
Auburn - Alabama, Georgia
Georgia - Auburn, Florida
LSU - Ole Miss, 2-3 teams easily could fall here (A&M, Bama, Florida)
Oklahoma - Texas, Missouri
Ole Miss - State, LSU
Tennessee - Alabama, Kentucky/Vandy
Texas - Oklahoma, Texas A&M
Texas A&M - Texas, LSU/Arkansas

That's 9 of 16 with very clear 2 (or 3) true rivals
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145253 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:14 pm to
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LSU would have UF & Bama
aTM would have Arky & Texas

quote:

OU would have Texas & Missoui

weird pairings
Posted by Whentheleveebreaks
Member since Aug 2020
1886 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:14 pm to
Hmm

I guess Sankey never reviewed this with all the schools prior to last summer. Wonder what the vote would have been if they knew they would possibly lose rivalry games.
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 1:15 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22800 posts
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:14 pm to
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Said as much on the Jordy Cullota show this morning. He was in Destin all week and while they didn’t take an official vote, the movement is in favor of the 1-7 schedule model with no divisions, 1 permanent opponent, and roaring the other 14 schools every other year, with a full home and home rotation every 4 years.

Main influences at the moment are around maximizing SEC bowl/playoff berths, which the majority now believe is best accomplished via 1-7.

Some secondary rivalry games would not be played annually under this plan, but with 4 OOC games left they can still be scheduled out of conference if the schools want.

Official decision expected late summer.


I like it.

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