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re: 1-7 scheduling model gaining momentum per SI’s Ross Dellinger
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:27 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:27 pm to lsupride87
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It was just a “Bama” game. That brought in the eyeballs. There is nothing special about Bama/Ut in terms of outside viewers.
Then why are people trying to scrap the bama vs Tenn game so Bama can play missouri, vandy, and south carolina more often. Honestly. Put our thinking hats on and think this through. It is borderline retarded.
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Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:28 pm to logjamming
quote:The 3-6 format fixes both issues.
Disagree. LSU hasn’t played in Athens since 2013. Tennessee hasn’t played in Baton Rouge since 2010.
It makes no sense to not have conference members play one another more than once or twice a decade, just so UGA can have its annual “rivalry” games with UF, Auburn, and Tennessee.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:28 pm to Draconian Sanctions
1-7 is awful, no
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:29 pm to wadewilson
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I mean.......if the conference sends more teams to bowl games they make more money.
Yes, I’m sure LSU and UGA are making decisions to maximize their chances of getting a cut of 6-6 Missouri’s Texas Bowl payout.
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:29 pm to meansonny
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Then why are people trying to scrap the bama vs Tenn game so Bama can play missouri, vandy, and south carolina more often. Honestly. Put our thinking hats on and think this through. It is borderline retarded.
Yeah, that's Georgia's schedule, not Alabama's.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:30 pm to RT1941
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The 3-6 format fixes both issues.
And goes to 9 games which sucks. 2-6 or 3-5 should be the alternatives if people want to keep more rival games.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:30 pm to RT1941
quote:except not really as it just moves the issue to OOC rivalries
The 3-6 format fixes both issues.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:32 pm to lsupride87
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Look man, Bama/UT brings in no extra eyeballs. That doesn’t mean you can’t still fight for it, but it isn’t a special draw like some other rivalry games
Exactly. I don't get why fans get so defensive over stuff like this.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:33 pm to WestCoastAg
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except not really as it just moves the issue to OOC rivalries
It just seems like a roundabout arugment
- Keep it at 8 games so teams with an OOC rival can keep that and also keep open the ability to play P5 teams
- Also, those teams with an OOC rival (Georgia) have to also schedule that extra OOC game against Auburn if they still want that game, therefore taking away the extra P5 game we just gave you by staying at 8 SEC games
If making the extra game an OOC game is about having an equitable schedule yearly and avoiding teams having an unfair easy/hard permanent game for #2, then that makes more sense I guess (especially if we are scraping divisions). The argument that we can't do 3-6 because teams have OOC rivals and need an extra open spot for P5 teams only to then tell them they have to fill it with someone who would be perm in 3-6 seems like it solves nothing.
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:35 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I haven't seen anyone run samples with it because it never really came up, but is 6/2 something that just doesn't work in a equal scheduling way? It never seems to come up and I just kind of assumed that it didn't work in terms of getting the #2 rivals set up right and all that.
Because if it does, I don't see why that isn't the compromise. Everyone (well most everyone) has 1 rival, and lots of teams have a 2nd real rival or at least team they play very often. Most of them seem to map out in a way that would work. And then you still have 6 rotating games (3 home/3 road off year rotation) so you see everybody.
Because if it does, I don't see why that isn't the compromise. Everyone (well most everyone) has 1 rival, and lots of teams have a 2nd real rival or at least team they play very often. Most of them seem to map out in a way that would work. And then you still have 6 rotating games (3 home/3 road off year rotation) so you see everybody.
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:36 pm to SummerOfGeorge
hence why i said there is no perfect choice here. some schools are going to be more negatively impacted than others in the yearly historic rivalry department no matter what
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:36 pm to gamecockman12
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Exactly. I don't get why fans get so defensive over stuff like this.
Because you are discussing the replacement of a huge traditional rivalry in favor of Bama vs Vandy/South Carolina/Missouri/Kentucky.
I dont care about Bama vs Missouri.
Why do 14 teams in the SEC care about Bama vs Missouri more than Bama cares about Bama vs Tennessee?
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:36 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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SI’s Ross Dellinger
quote:Does anyone think some folks were yanking Dellinger's chain on the movement to a 1-7 format?
He was in Destin all week and while they didn’t take an official vote
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:36 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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It just seems like a roundabout arugment
- Keep it at 8 games so teams with an OOC rival can keep that and also keep open the ability to play P5 teams
- Also, those teams with an OOC rival (Georgia) have to also schedule that extra OOC game against Auburn if they still want that game, therefore taking away the extra P5 game we just gave you by staying at 8 SEC games
If making the extra game an OOC game is about having an equitable schedule yearly and avoiding teams having an unfair easy/hard permanent game for #2, then that makes more sense I guess (especially if we are scraping divisions). The argument that we can't do 3-6 because teams have OOC rivals and need an extra open spot for P5 teams only to then tell them they have to fill it with someone who would be perm in 3-6 seems like it solves nothing.
We could still play Tennessee every year and it not count towards the SEC.
It was done back in the day before divisions. We would play an SEC team as a game and it wouldn't count towards the conference record.
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:37 pm to 3down10
Agree with everything you state.
SEC needs to continue playing OOC games with P5 teams. Just to make sure SEC keeps its upper hand for postseason.
SEC needs to continue playing OOC games with P5 teams. Just to make sure SEC keeps its upper hand for postseason.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:38 pm to 3down10
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We could still play Tennessee every year and it not count towards the SEC.
It was done back in the day before divisions. We would play an SEC team as a game and it wouldn't count towards the conference record.
Yea but we're not really the point of all that because we don't have an OOC rival.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:38 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I haven't seen anyone run samples with it because it never really came up, but is 6/2 something that just doesn't work in a equal scheduling way? It never seems to come up and I just kind of assumed that it didn't work in terms of getting the #2 rivals set up right and all that.
Because if it does, I don't see why that isn't the compromise. Everyone (well most everyone) has 1 rival, and lots of teams have a 2nd real rival or at least team they play very often. Most of them seem to map out in a way that would work. And then you still have 6 rotating games (3 home/3 road off year rotation) so you see everybody
What is the issue with 3-5 other than taking another year or so to rotate all of the teams through?
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:38 pm to meansonny
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Because you are discussing the replacement of a huge traditional rivalry in favor of Bama vs Vandy/South Carolina/Missouri/Kentucky.
I dont care about Bama vs Missouri.
Why do 14 teams in the SEC care about Bama vs Missouri more than Bama cares about Bama vs Tennessee?
Why wouldn't we be playing Georgia and Florida more?
Why are all the teams you keep naming all the teams Georgia plays every year?
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:38 pm to meansonny
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What is the issue with 3-5 other than taking another year or so to rotate all of the teams through?
Agree with it or not that is the issue
Posted on 6/6/22 at 1:40 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Personally, if we did 1-7 and then played Tennessee yearly OOC (except for the years they rolled onto our schedule as a SEC team), I'd be fine with that.
I'd hope we wouldn't kick our P5 teams already scheduled ot the curb, though, and that we'd replace Kent State with them and not replace Oklahoma State/Arizona/Boston College with them. However, I'm pretty sure we'd want to keep 2 non-P5 games and that is how it would go.
I'd hope we wouldn't kick our P5 teams already scheduled ot the curb, though, and that we'd replace Kent State with them and not replace Oklahoma State/Arizona/Boston College with them. However, I'm pretty sure we'd want to keep 2 non-P5 games and that is how it would go.
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