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.are now Bama's "Daddy" for lacking of a better term. Can we get real for a moment? If you want to puff your chest out and crow about -3 rush yards this, 28-7 that or how bad OU is going to kick arse, I have a number for you. Your teams are collectively 4-23 in the last 27 games played vs Alabama if my count is correct. I'd be embarrassed to be talking shite given that abysmal record.


Well I am going to look at Alabama's 11-3 record Objectively, I think that is a damn good record given the schedule Bama played. 10 P4 games in regular season (8 SEC + BIG(Wisconsin) + ACC (FSU) then UGA again in rematch game (always tough when 2 evenly matched teams) then on road in rematch vs OU (Bama won rematch). That's 12 P4 games out of 14, not sure what other school in the CFP has played that type of schedule.

So putting all the emotion aside, that is quite impressive by Kalen Deboer his staff, Simpson and the Bama team. Its kind of like the NFL now, you get in the playoff and your QB gets hot, you can make a run. Who knows, it could be a UGA vs Bama round 3 this year.
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they only got kicked out due to a technical issue.

one of their research hospitals was originally included at the main campus, but was in reality on a satellite campus, and the AAU deemed it later to not be part of the school.


This is the correct answer, the Medical School research needs to be part ot the Main campus it is related to. Nebraska's Medical School, while part of the University of Nebraska system, was not under the same Leadership structure of the University of Nebraska at Lincoln (2 different University Chancellors).

LSU is set up similar, its 2 Medical Schools are within the LSU System, under same President, but not under the direct leadership of the Chancellor of LSU in Baton Rouge. Rather, they are located in New Orleans and Shreveport and report their Research Grants separately from LSU.
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Notre Dame deserves criticism, but they're smart to avoid overly deep conferences.

A Big 12 move would actually be a sage decision for them. They're grinning looking at the void Oklahoma and Texas left behind.


Agree, the BIG12, if we had 16 teams, would have had 3 in the top 15, so even if you give 1 G5, they get 3 teams in this year. ACC only 1.

With NIL, schools in the BIG12 across the board vs the ACC, other than Miami, Clemson and Florida State can compete for 16 team playoffs. With USC no longer signing on for the Notre Dame series, that is 1 less time ND plays in California (where they recruit heavily, will likely continue given the large Catholic School football powers out there) but it gives them playing opportunities in Texas frequently with TCU, Texas Tech, Houston and Baylor.

My guess is Notre Dame and Boston College will always play regardless.
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You like slo-motion football. Why? Please do tell who did Indiana beat this year that earned them so much status? What is their SOS?

The BIG 10 schools will get smashed in playoffs as long as officials allow the teams to play.


The team they beat last night (Ohio State) has 6 guys ranked in the top 40 on the NFL draft board (CBS's) for 2026, and that only ranks the top 100 picks. Remember Smith the Sophomore WR who will be a top 5 pick next year. That team that started for Ohio State last night probably has 15 NFL draft picks on it over the next 2 years. They had 14 in the 2025 NFL draft, 2 better than anyone.

Michigan and Ohio State have won the last 2 NC's and have a great chance to win it again with the 3 teams in it (IU, Ohio State and Oregon). They will have 3 teams in the Quarter finals (2 are already there) and Oregon will beat JMU in round 1.
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OKBoomerSooner



Hate is a little to strong for me, dislike is more to my liking. With that said, if Alabama loses and falls to 10-3, they are 10th seed and should play at 7 seed Texas A&M. If they win they should be 4th seed behind IU if they lose to Ohio State or Texas Tech if IU beats Ohio State (Ohio State falls to #2 in my view in that scenario).
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Alabama has a very long history with Auburn and Tennessee. There has been much bitterness and hate at times for various reasons, and there are therefore longstanding grudges. Alabama and LSU have had some MAJOR games over the past 20 years, but the hate, bitterness, and grudges aren't the same. We grudgingly respect LSU, we don't actually hate them. Thus, not a true rivalry.


As someone who tries most of the time to be a rationale LSU fan, and take the emotions of a fan out the equation, this is in my view 100% a solid take.

LSU in my view needs to to forget about rivals. My father and his family and friend are all in their 80's and for them it was Tulane (they were charter member of SEC) and Ole Miss in the Vaught/Dietzel then Mac eras. Who is LSU's rival today that every fan of every generation views as a rival, that varies by generation.

So my take for LSU fans lets just sit back in our corner of the world, see what Lane can do with the all the resources, fan support and in-state LA recruiting and portal, he has been better in the Portal these last 3 years than anyone and his only comp might be George Steinbrenner in the 1970's acquiring free agents for the Yankees. If Lane gets an NC here in next years, every team in the SEC will be taking some shots at LSU.

Anyway, here is for a good game between UGA and Bama later today.

:cheers:
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Verge protected the shield by hiding and covering up the rapes and DV by Drake Davis. Took the fall and now is getting the reward. He’s not a “good guy”‘ he’s a POS that should have been fired along with the Title 9 debacle. F. Him.


He took the fall, as you noted, which means some higher ups (with lots of Money) likely were involved behind the scenes and wanted this done but Segar and Verge were the ones that if it went South would "take the fall".

Sort of like the scene from Apocalypse now when Captain Willard (played by Martin Sheen) gets the Mission to go take out Col. Kilgore and Willard gets "This Mission never existed" in case it blows up.

re: Lane 7 years 91Mil

Posted by JKChesterton on 12/1/25 at 9:31 am to
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Yeah, but what are the buyout details… feels like those will be important. Can you imagine paying Kiffin and Kelly not to coach in 4 years? Lol


From what some other LSU media sources have hinted at, there are incentives and escalator clauses that if Lane wins and has like say 4 years from now, multiple CFP's and say an NC, the buyout increases. But lets say 4 years from now LSU has had 8-5, 9-4 type seasons and no CFP appearances, the buyout does down.

So despite Landry going overboard with going public with his attacks BK's contract and Woodward, former LSU AD, he was in terms of the economics of the contract contract correct. Should be performance and incentive based . Seems like whoever worked on the contract got the buyout tied to performance.

So maybe Landry bringing to light the Woodward and BK Contract situation may actually cause more AD's to not sign deals that Woodward did.
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Bama have both he and Finebaum at ESPN along with Roman Harper although he's SECN. We have Booger, RC, and Marcus Spears.

Our guys don't shill for us like them two do


Also Greg McElroy, who in my view, unlike Davis and Finebaum, don't shill for Bama. I think Harper is generally more of a honest broker given that he works at the SEC Network, in general all those guys who are former players who who work for the SEC Network are very professional,

re: Why does Bama jump AM?

Posted by JKChesterton on 12/1/25 at 9:12 am to
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Bama lost to Oklahoma,
AM lost to TX

Oklahoma is a much bigger loss I would think?


If Alabama wins the SEC title game, they should be the 4th Seed. They jump everyone but Ohio State and IU, and Texas Tech, assuming they win the BIG12 title game. Ohio State and IU loser is still a top 3 seed as they will be 12-1 and only loss would be to obviously the BIG10 Champ. And while yes this the SECrant, the last 2 NC's reside in the BIG10.
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Now someone has said it.


Great fit at LSU, he kind of has an edge, which fits well. And I think he actually likes to go recruit and evaluate talent. I watch HS football games on Friday night that 2 different channels here in BR and Never have I seen BK at a game, Miles, O, were always there.

Here is an example of what Lane can do at LSU, a 4-star receiver from Lafayette was committed to OU. BK did not offer him :rolleyes:, Lane gets here today and the young man is offered and he is now trending to LSU.

Several things this tells me:

1) Lane recruited this 4 star WR from Lafayette at Ole Miss
2) Takes the LSU job and with that title Lane offers the young man and bingo, a top notch Home state LA kid flips from a traditional blue blood program, that is heading to the CFP, to come to LSU

So Lane will in my view sign 15 to 18 kids from Louisiana every year, there are still tons of them who would run through a wall to play for LSU. Then, as Saban said on Gameday yesterday, Lane an use in-state recruiting at LSU to build your roster and then use the Portal to supplement that roster, which he was the best at using it the last 2 years.

Lane signed 25 portal players for 2024, signed 24 for 2025, and he hit on most of them.


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OU
Missouri
Alabama
UGA
A&M
LSU


Considering where LSU was in 2023, that is a great improvement in 2 years. Need more DL depth, hopefully this Wednesday LSU can lock up the top defensive recruits from our state and then Lane can do what he has done at Ole Miss the last 2 years, be the top coach in the portal signing 25 in 2024 and 24 in 2025 to play for him at Ole Miss who turned out to be really good (excellent talent evaluator).

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I doubt they go full FSU on them, but they are going to get dropped down bigly in the final ranking.

Fair?


How do u drop an 11-1 team (7-1 in SEC) in a 12 team playoff? U can't

re: Explain this to me.

Posted by JKChesterton on 11/30/25 at 1:17 pm to
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Lane Kiffin wants to go coach at LSU. Okay that’s fine. Disappointing, but I understand. But he still wants to coach more games at Ole Miss? So he wants Ole Miss to allow the head coach at LSU to coach an Ole Miss football team? And we’re the bad guys for not allowing that to happen? The idea itself is utter insanity. Lane is incapable of leaving anywhere without destruction. Oh but I’m sure it won’t happen at LSU. It’ll be different there****


I get it from Ole Miss perspective. Kiffin left Knoxville at Midnight for USC job in 2009, was working on his staff for the FAU Job while OC for Saban before 2016 Championship game with Clemson and now this with Ole Miss.

Lane was at Ole Miss for 6 years, he will likely be here 6 to 10 years, hopefully with a NC, and then who knows, maybe he will go try to win a Superbowl and interview with NFL teams while LSU is in the CFP.

I think everyone understands that. Lots of LSU fans wasted lots energy when Saban wound up at Bama. I have long gotten over all that and realize that for coaches, unless you are like Kirby at UGA (GA native and UGA alum), it is 100% football and Business $$$$. Nothing more and nothing less.

We fans are the ones with emotional ties to our schools, LSU fans LSU, Ole Miss Fans Ole Miss, Bama fans Bama, TENN fans TENN, UGA fans UGA, etc.

And with players, it is more and more the case as well. Look at it objectively, in 2024 Lane signed 25 players from the Portal and used NIL to get them to play for him at Ole Miss, in 2025, he signed 24. That is 49 players in the portal that were signed out of HS by other coaches and other schools, and he won games with those guys at Ole Miss. There are lots of fans of other schools saying man those guys at Ole Miss our school signed out of HS and now they are playing for Kiffin at Ole Miss.

For that reason, I think it is 100% imperative that if Lane is here, he signs 15 to 18 kids that are from Louisiana and played HS ball here as there are still lots of those kids that will run through the wall to play for LSU. U can then use the portal to supplement your LSU roster [which is exactly what Saban was saying on Game day yesterday, and I 100% agree]
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LSU fans are just being fans of their new coach.

He will be able to do no wrong right now…..until he does at some point down the road during an LSU season.

Just fans being fans. If the situation were reversed the respective fan bases would be taking the exact opposite stances.


Well said, Fans of a particular team are the ones with emotional ties to your School. That is why the term fans is used. But once you get past your emotions, with coaches, unless the coach is from your home state and alum of your school (for LSU fans, that would be Louisiana and LSU), they do not have the same emotional ties to HC job that you do. For them it is 100% Football and Business. Period.

All this stuff about the coach loves the community, he loves the town, he loves his home, he loves the people, he loves the food, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. While some of that could be partially true, ultimately none of it means crap. Saban enjoyed his time here in Baton Rouge, yes. But what he enjoyed was the football potential and the job. At Alabama, same thing. Urban Meyer at Florida when he was there, same thing. While he was at Ohio State, maybe more of a community tie as he is from Ohio, but it is still also about Football. Urban did not go coach Cincinnati.

Kirby at UGA, that is an example of someone who wants to be the HC at UGA because he is from GA and UGA alum.

But for 99% of the coaches, it is all Football and $$$$$.

And with the players, that is more and more the case.

re: Remember a Month ago?

Posted by JKChesterton on 11/30/25 at 11:52 am to
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How this board was laughing at LSU after our governor went on his rant. This board said we were done. This board said we would be lucky to get a D2 coordinator. The truth is this is a top five job in the country with a brand as big as anybody.


As crazy as Landry went on a rant, some of what he actually said made sense about contracts that AD's sign with coaches. I actually hear Dari Nowkah and Roy Philpott on ESPN as I was coming home saying that Arkansas, Auburn and even Florida saw the LSU situation with BK and actually put forth contracts that are in the 6-7 year range, more incentive base, which is the one thing in the LSU situation that Landry sort of got right.
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Top 4:
OSU
TT
Indiana
Oregon


The winner of the SEC Title game is a top 4 seed, If Bama wins they are 4, if UGA wins they will be a 2 Seed. What happens in the other games will determine the other top 4 Seeds. In a UGA SEC Champ scenario, Ohio State and IU are in the top 4, just depends where, whoever wins is 1st, loser is likely 3rd. If Bama wins the Title game, they are 4 and Ohio State and IU can still be 1 and 2. Texas Tech might be a 2 if Ohio State is the champ, I think 3rd if IU wins the BIG as the farthest Ohio State drops is 2.
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dk. Other threads are saying Golding won’t go with him.

And they gotta stop the basketball shite on the sideline if he does indeed come here.


tiger91: Well I think if Lane is coaching, he is going to run the program the way he runs it. He is in someway like Saban and learned from him. When Saban got here, he came in and told everyone to get out his way and everybody do ur job and let him do his.

Now he might not bring the basketball stuff on the sideline, but maybe he does. Who knows with Lane?
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o be our DC.
Did our D not hold maybe every team we faced below their season average in scoring, and doing so with an offense who was 3 and out more oftethe con than not?
Baker is the highest paid DC in America and I think did a great job this year with some major injuries.
Are we really going to release Raymond and others again?
Williams sold his home in Squire Creek to move to BR and is treated like this?
I am ashamed of LSU if they put all their hopes on a guy that has never won anything , anywhere, because they think he will improve our offense, and that is probably true.
But, if our defense is like it was last year when we had the Heisman winner and best offense in the country, and one of the worst defenses in the country.
Is LSU going to hire Lane and have half a team yet again?
Do these people making the decisions know anything about winning football, because they are hiring a new crew that doesn't.


Lanes DC is Golding, who has done a good job at Ole Miss and he is one of Kiffin's top personnel guys in terms of the portal, the other is his GM.

If Lane is hired, he is going to hire who he wants to hire. That is the business of coaching.
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Go ahead and ban me now and call me what you want, but hopefully he gets us some significant wins and maybe a championship or two.


This could also be the biggest troll job in history…


Like you noted, if Lane comes here and say coaches 7 years and wins an NC or 2, I am good with that. In my lifetime here are the Coaches at LSU

Mac (18 years 62-79) I was alive 16 of those. Fired
Stovall (4 years, 80-83)) Fired
Arnsparger (3 years, 84-86) left on his own.
Archer (4 years 87-90) Fired.
Hallman (4 years 91-94) Fired.
DiNardo (5 years 95-99) Fired
Saban (5 years, 2000-2004) left on his own
Miles (11 full years + 4 games into 12th, 2005-2016) fired
O (6 years 2016-2021) fired.
BK (4 years 2022-2025). Fired

So if we look back at the coaches I noted, of the 10, only 3 made it more than 5 years. All were fired save Saban and Arnsparger. Coaches don't last long period.

If Kiffin comes to LSU and lets say coaches at least 7 years, more than anyone in the time period I noted save Mac and Miles, and wins as you say an NC or 2. 100% good with that.
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Kiffin wouldn't have put O on his Tennessee/USC staffs if he was worried about that. Nor is O a threat

O realistically knows he's never getting a marquee HC job again


Agree, and watching Lane all these years, he is one guy similar to Saban who is going to say once I am hired, I will decide who is on my staff, who is not, who is n the support staff and who is not.

I don't think he is going to accept being told he has to keep X, Y and Z. He might interview them and decide himself, but if he does take the LSU job, he is going to hire who he thinks can help him win a NC at LSU.

And other thing, I don't think he has ever done a coaching show anywhere he has been. He doesn't do one at Ole Miss for sure. He may also say Coaching shows are 1960, 1970, 1980, etc. To hell with those.