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Posted on 7/29/23 at 11:22 am to
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18229 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 11:22 am to
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Kiffin isn’t as good as a recruiter as Freeze.


Freeze landed more big fish but he also tended to leave certain positions talent depleted and it hurt us. At least with Kiffin, we are not only becoming more balanced across the board but we are also getting much needed depth. So, even though I was always a huge Freeze fan, I have found myself thinking that Kiffin is a much better HC.
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
6909 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 3:59 pm to
JUCO wide receiver Marquis Willis commits to Ole Miss.

Chose us over Illinois
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68788 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:39 pm to
I would take Kiffin’s play calling and game planning but everything else I would take Freeze. Their records are similar for their first 3 years but if you look at the quality of the wins, Freeze wins by a mile. Kiffin has a little Mullen in him when it comes to beating teams that finish in the top 25.

I love Kiffin and want him here but if we have a repeat of last year where he’s flirting with other job openings, he can be shown the door by Carter as far as I’m concerned.
This post was edited on 7/29/23 at 9:41 pm
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
6909 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 12:32 am to
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but if you look at the quality of the wins, Freeze wins by a mile.


It depends on what you want. A win over Bama but then a loss to Vandy is all Freeze. Under Kiffin, we win the games we are supposed to but don't lose to anyone we should beat.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29721 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 3:25 am to
quote:

Under Kiffin, we win the games we are supposed to but don't lose to anyone we should beat.


And we get a side helping of extortion by the coach mid season to derail the season
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26651 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 7:16 am to
quote:

Under Kiffin, we win the games we are supposed to but don't lose to anyone we should beat.


We absolutely should’ve won the Egg Bowl last year. Kiffin’s pitiful playcalling in the redzone was the difference maker.
Posted by rebsfan10
Member since Dec 2013
1568 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 8:13 am to
quote:

And we get a side helping of extortion by the coach mid season to derail the season


True

But wonder if the most talented team we've had beats Memphis State and Florida that year if freeze isn't busy looking for hookers
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68788 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 8:23 am to
We still won 10 games and a Sugar Bowl that year. The loss to Memphis sucked but the pros FAR outweigh the cons with Freeze. Him being fake and calling hookers is a non issue for me because it’s his personal life. He and his wife can work that out. I get him calling off a university phone is an issue but I still stand by he shouldn’t have been fired. Maybe suspend him for the season or something but he did far more good than bad for our program.

Bjork is more to blame for the NCAA shite than him in my mind
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64887 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 9:06 am to
quote:


We still won 10 games and a Sugar Bowl that year. The loss to Memphis sucked but the pros FAR outweigh the cons with Freeze. Him being fake and calling hookers is a non issue for me because it’s his personal life. He and his wife can work that out. I get him calling off a university phone is an issue but I still stand by he shouldn’t have been fired. Maybe suspend him for the season or something but he did far more good than bad for our program.



Agree with this.

quote:


Bjork is more to blame for the NCAA shite than him in my mind




Disagree with this. If Hugh didn't get belligerent as hell with the NCAA investigator over the Moncrief situation, they very likely take it much easier on us over the following investigation.

Hugh should have STFU and let compliance and legal handle the situation.
Posted by Insideradvantage
Member since Oct 2014
6947 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 9:25 am to
100%. This was the moment the season was essentially pissed away. No way that rag tag State bunch should have come into our building and pulled out a win. We were unprepared and unmotivated. Both a result of Kiffin being checked out. If it happens again, see ya.

quote:
Under Kiffin, we win the games we are supposed to but don't lose to anyone we should beat.


We absolutely should’ve won the Egg Bowl last year. Kiffin’s pitiful playcalling in the redzone was the difference maker.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68788 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 11:51 am to
quote:

Hugh should have STFU and let compliance and legal handle the situation.
To an extent I agree. What I’ve heard is that the NCAA and Ole Miss had agreed to a punishment that was basically a slap on the wrist. And then Tunsil on draft night happened and the NCAA reopened the investigation after unofficially closing it behind closed doors.
This post was edited on 7/30/23 at 11:52 am
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
3812 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

unranked WR commits to Ole Miss over Illinois


Is matt luke back on staff?
This post was edited on 7/30/23 at 1:54 pm
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
6909 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

Do tell.


Allegedly, took secret pictures of teammates in the locker room and sold them on OnlyFans.
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
6909 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 9:37 pm to
Miami CB Chris Graves Jr transfers to Ole Miss.

Chris Graves Jr was a 4*, top 120 recruit in the 2022 class and is expected to be immediately eligible to play this season
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68788 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 10:08 pm to
That big. I thought the deadline to transfer and be eligible for this year was passed though
Posted by RebelTheBear
Saban's spare bedroom
Member since Aug 2016
5551 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 10:09 pm to
Our defense might actually be pretty good this year
Posted by shamrock
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
3630 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 10:31 pm to
Easy now
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24941 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 6:34 am to
The Clemson message board was saying he was taking dick pics of his teammates in the locker room and sending them around.
This post was edited on 7/31/23 at 6:35 am
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64887 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 6:48 am to
I heard he put them on OnlyFans.


....which makes him an entrepreneur.
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
6909 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 7:27 am to
In reality, if he was taking dick picks and posting them online he'd have been arrested..
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