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re: How mediocre was Tennessee's 1998 NC? Everyone else sucked that year

Posted on 5/23/21 at 9:41 pm to
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 9:41 pm to
That other teams sucked isn't Tennessee's problem.
This post was edited on 5/23/21 at 9:52 pm
Posted by Gator5220
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 9:43 pm to
You haven't watched 98 Tennessee
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 9:46 pm to
As was noted, teams played 11 games. Winning 10 games was a big deal.

That 1998 Tennessee team was a classic old school SEC football team - great defense at all 3 levels, clutch/gamer QB, stable of backs, great offensive line and some scary wideouts. After they beat Florida they also took on that "we're a team of destiny and we won't lose" mentality.

Syracuse was very good and the Carrier Dome was a hard place to win. That State team had dudes all over on defense.

They got a little lucky with the FSU QB situation, but hell thats part of it.
This post was edited on 5/23/21 at 9:47 pm
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8605 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 1:03 am to
quote:

SEC used to be really bad in the 90's, not just LSU as most of us LSU fans believe.


I don't mean you, specifically, but younger fans don't realize how ridiculously good the SEC has been since the turn of the millennium. No conference has ever come close to being so dominant in football, including the pre-millennium SEC.

LSU has simply made the biggest improvement since the 90's. One might argue for Alabama, but Alabama was still a Blueblood back then.
Posted by hiremikeleach
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 1:16 am to
Wasn’t Florida states starting Qb out of the title game too
Posted by boston vol
Lexington-Fayette, KY
Member since Sep 2015
5613 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 1:25 am to
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UCLA was the best team in the nation.

Their offense was phenomenal, but they weren’t winning a National Championship with that god awful defense
Posted by cramps
Member since Oct 2012
2100 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 1:43 am to
The only other team that should even be mentioned as a possibility is Ohio State, but they were upset by Saban's Spartans late that season.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22864 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 4:37 am to
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Nutt underachieved with Darren McFadden and Felix Jones.


Yeah... He kind of had a habit of that. The 2006 team is the most talented team of my lifetime and one of the most talented BCS-era SEC teams,yet Nutt always found a way to find the banana peel and had an absolute garbage Casey Dick out there QB. But never developed that position at all.

If they had even a mediocre passing QB in 06, they would have gone 11-1 and won the SEC. Instead they lost to LSU and Florida in the title hand, then mailed it in in the bowl game.

Don't know if Arkansas will every forks a team with that kind of talent again.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 6:02 am to
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If they had even a mediocre passing QB in 06, they would have gone 11-1 and won the SEC


I know you're mad about McFadden getting shut down, but believing this is nonsense.

Florida DL had one of the best pass rush combos since 2000 in Harvey and Moss, top 5 MLB in school history in Siler, NCAA leader in interceptions (Ryan Smith) and a top 5 safety in school history in Nelson.

If Leak doesn't make 2 stupid interceptions of his own, Florida wins by 40.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 6:22 am to
Undefeated, untied, unblemished
Posted by MrMojoRisin
Udûn
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:03 am to
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Undefeated, untied, unblemished


quote:

unblemished





Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9441 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:17 am to
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Miss St was cheating their asses off back then. They had good football teams unlike what most of what we experienced for the last 20 years


From an Auburn fan.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18250 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:29 am to
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How mediocre was Tennessee's 1998 NC

UT, FSU, and UF were all very comparable that year. Any of the 3 could have beaten the others on any given day.

That would have been a great CFP scenario with UT, FSU, and UF (mulligan game vs both), and tOSU.

tOSU had a really good team as well and were likely the more deserving #2 team if not for that unknown coach at Sparty upsetting them.
Posted by Supravol22
Member since Jan 2011
14420 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:42 am to
Last time I checked, a natty is a natty
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18148 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 8:29 am to
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Last time I checked, a natty is a natty



Hijacking this thread for a moment, 1998 was my senior year at State. Me and some buddies went to every game. It was surreal to be in the Georgia Dome that night. #3 UCLA and #1 Kansas State had been beaten earlier that day. We watched UCLA get beat at SEC Fanfare and Aggy beat K-State right before our game started.

State's defense played lights out for 3.5 quarters then fell apart. Our offense couldn't do anything. We lost the game, but this 4th quarter moment was amazing.The way the game was going, we thought we could win.

LINK

Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
7795 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 8:36 am to
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Took a bad play call by Houston Nutt and a fluke fumble for them to get past Arkansas

What sucks even worse is that a game winning FG that went wide was called good in our game against Miss St. We would have had a rematch against Tenner in the championship game if not for that.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7836 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 8:57 am to
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So Tennessee was the LSU of the 90’s. Always in second place because more often than not they couldn’t get past Spurrier and Florida, like LSU with Saban and Alabama.


Well, if you ignore the multiple SEC and National titles, sure, I guess LSU is just like 1990s Tennessee.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37710 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 9:07 am to
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2007 LSU was the absolute worst.


Laughing at an LSU fan throwing shade on TN,'s title.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 9:20 am to
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Well, if you ignore the multiple SEC and National titles, sure, I guess LSU is just like 1990s Tennessee.



Fulmer took over during Spurrier's reign, so it's like comparing LSU to Alabama once Saban got it rolling. And in that light, pretty accurate.

Tennessee (1993-2004) (11 seasons)
- 119-31 (79%) Overall
- 77-19 (80%) SEC
- 4 SEC East Titles (1997, 1998, 2001, 2004)
- 2 SEC Titles (1997, 1998)
- 1 National Title (1998)
- 9 Top 25 Finishes
- 6 Top 10 Finishes
- 4-8 vs Florida

LSU (2009-2020) (11 seasons)
- 117-37 (76%) Overall
- 65-26 (71%) SEC
- 2 SEC West Titles (2011, 2019)
- 2 SEC Titles (2011, 2019)
- 1 National Title (2019)
- 10 Top 25 Finishes
- 4 Top 10 Finishes
- 3-10 vs Alabama
This post was edited on 5/24/21 at 9:26 am
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 9:41 am to
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8-4 Syracuse


That was a good team and a true road game for Tennessee. Syracuse turned around and steamrolled the defending national champ Michigan in the Big House the next week.

quote:

11-2 FSU


This is one where you can say they got a bit lucky. They caught FSU playing either their 2nd or 3rd string QB, and it should have been Kansas State anyways if they didn't trip on their own dicks in the Big 12 title game.

1998 Tennessee had a very, very good team and a loaded roster.
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