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re: Saban: CFB Playoff is why players are skipping bowl games

Posted on 12/22/16 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 12/22/16 at 3:07 pm to
If you say anything about Bama at all, LSU Patrick's penis envy shows.

//accuratized
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13366 posts
Posted on 12/22/16 at 3:15 pm to
BS. If that were the case then it would have been the same way before. Only the NCG had any meaning. If anything it would have more players excited because four teams could win.
Posted by BDJ
Texas
Member since Jul 2016
2135 posts
Posted on 12/22/16 at 3:52 pm to
Wha an ignorant fricking comment.

Every single bowl game outside of the playoffs is a participation bowl by that logic. North Texas vs Army is no more of a participation bowl than he Sigar Bowl.

So by your logic, kill all the other bowls. Put in an 8 team playoff and be done with it.

Bowls are important to fan bases. Auburn fans will tune in. LSU and Louisville fans will tune in. It also gives you a chance to see different matchups that you would otherwise see maybe once every 50-60 years or maybe never.
This post was edited on 12/22/16 at 3:55 pm
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 12/22/16 at 4:02 pm to
While it's true we had a BCS Championship game, effectively a 2 team playoff, for 16 years, the existence of the playoff officially has put the ENTIRE FOCUS OF THE SEASON on the playoff.

That's all the media talks about 24/7.

That's all the fans talk and think about 24/7.

After every single loss every post is "WE CAN STILL MAKE THE PLAYOFF! Here's how..."

The playoff is now the end all, be all of the entire college football season.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23918 posts
Posted on 12/22/16 at 4:10 pm to
He's right in general. However, they should stop mentioning Fournette as someone skipping a bowl game without good reason. Fournette missed several games this year with his ankle injury and it needs time to heal. There is no reason for him to play in the bowl game when he was physically unable to play in several regular season games.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16036 posts
Posted on 12/22/16 at 5:00 pm to
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I would wager you would not take this stand with LF7 if your team was in the playoffs. I could see it now he holds a press conference about the upcoming draft and how he came from nothing and now wants to ensure his family is taking care of and decides to skip the playoffs. LSU fans would cause the state of LA to come under martial law. Your fan base is so delusional.


well if he was injured, which he is, and thus not as effective as he normally would be, then no, LSU fans would not be upset about it. They might be upset about the bad luck of him being injured. He exacerbated the injury towards the end of the season and wasn't nearly as effective, so if that was the situation why would we want him on the field?
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
17130 posts
Posted on 12/22/16 at 5:04 pm to
Nothing was wrong with the BCS.
If fact the old bowl system was better than this. The arguing about "what it" was good for college football.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16036 posts
Posted on 12/22/16 at 5:06 pm to
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Stanford will recruit to fill McCaffrey's spot and will have 8 months to game plan for the next game without him. Now they go into a game they probably would really like to win, minus a critical player they have depended on all


yes McCaffreys situation is 100% different than Fournettes. He's not sitting out because of injury but just to get ready for the NFL draft. That's a pretty messed up attitude
Posted by ColoBama
The Kayng of College Fusball, CO
Member since Dec 2016
7433 posts
Posted on 12/22/16 at 5:06 pm to
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yes McCaffreys situation is 100% different than Fournettes. He's not sitting out because of injury but just to get ready for the NFL draft. That's a pretty messed up attitude



I think CNS is partly right but I think the players realizing it's now acceptable to quit and go on to get ready for the NFL is what the issue is. Except for Fournette (who in my mind has a good reason), this is quitting on your team pure and simple.
This post was edited on 12/22/16 at 5:07 pm
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16036 posts
Posted on 12/22/16 at 5:09 pm to
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What Saban essentially said is that he thinks the playoff and playoff media hype contribute to diminishing the importance of other bowls to some fans and the NFL draft bound players, such that they're more inclined to consider sitting them out.


Has it ever happened before other than with McCaffery? I don't really see it as a trend if it's just happened before with just one player ever doing it.
Posted by ColoBama
The Kayng of College Fusball, CO
Member since Dec 2016
7433 posts
Posted on 12/22/16 at 5:09 pm to
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Nothing was wrong with the BCS.



I'd opine that the system for coming up with #1 and #2 was spot on. Instead of a committee, we should use the same system to come up with #1 through #4. I'm not a big fan of the committee.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72277 posts
Posted on 12/22/16 at 5:13 pm to
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Wha an ignorant fricking comment.

Every single bowl game outside of the playoffs is a participation bowl by that logic. North Texas vs Army is no more of a participation bowl than he Sigar Bowl.

So by your logic, kill all the other bowls. Put in an 8 team playoff and be done with it.

Bowls are important to fan bases. Auburn fans will tune in. LSU and Louisville fans will tune in. It also gives you a chance to see different matchups that you would otherwise see maybe once every 50-60 years or maybe never.


Holy shite, guy. At least quote what set you off. I at no point stated what you accuse me of stating. Unless you completely read something out of context.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24297 posts
Posted on 12/22/16 at 7:10 pm to
How does the playoff make the other bowls less than what they already were? Before, if you weren't in the NC, your bowl game was looked at just as it is now. You weren't in the championship then and you wouldn't be now. The only difference is that there are four teams that have a chance to win it all going into the bowl season as opposed to the two in the old format. If we were using the old system, would the Citrus Bowl or whatever all of a sudden become the center of attention that no player dare skip? No.
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2851 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 12:32 am to
How would you know...? You're a uga fan..lol
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
8046 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 1:19 am to
Well, His main goal is to win championships at Alabama, not worry about them getting hurt and hurting their NFL draft status.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
76665 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 7:49 am to
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He IS right. He's also right that all of you screaming for 8 teams, will want 16 teams, and you'll eventually ruin college football
they want college to be like the NFL. . .Which is losing it's audience at a record pace.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11846 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 8:00 am to
The current bowl system is a joke. If it was so important to so many fan bases why do so many stadiums sit empty for their bowl game. Also for those that advocate it is a financial win for teams is not the case either. Google it because many teams end up losing money to have their team play in the bowl game.

And for those thinking expanding the playoff will be good that is all we need are 4-8 teams going to bowl games because a few more 2 or 3 loss teams to the cfb playoff
This post was edited on 12/23/16 at 8:17 am
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29453 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 8:08 am to
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He hasn't been healthy all year

He must have been hurt the last 2 years as well.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:11 am to
I think the Combine is the reason players are skipping Bowl Games. That is the reason they announce they are skipping, because all they would have to do is say they are injured and it would have the same effect. They just do not want the Pro teams to think they have an injury issue.
Posted by Lordofwrath88
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
6857 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:31 am to
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He IS right. He's also right that all of you screaming for 8 teams, will want 16 teams, and you'll eventually ruin college football.


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