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"Hey Gus: Maybe it's not them. Maybe it's YOU"
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:45 am
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:45 am
Great read by NashTide
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One of the nasty byproducts of the HUNH is that it makes the average football fan dumber by virtue of watching it. You sacrifice interest and excitement in one phase of the game for another and it basically causes attention deficit disorder for fanbases. They don't care if their team allows points because that just means they get the ball back quicker so they can score again. It's an ignorant way to watch football IMO.
The Aubs think crap-canning yet another DC will help them improve defensively. But how have defenses played everywhere he's run his offense. Is there a correlation between great HUNH offense and terrible defense?
---AUBURN BEFORE GUS---
Pre-Gus/Chiz/HUNH, Tuberville typically fielded mean, big, fast defenses that were among the nation's best. This, with a balanced pro-style offense. He had multiple different coordinators (Muschamp, Chizik, Gibbs, Rhodes, etc.) No matter the DC, the product was the same: great defense. When Gus arrived with Chiz in 2009, things went downhill quick.
---AUBURN WITH GUS---
Ted Roof (2009-11): At Auburn, fielded the worst statistical defenses in program history. Spectacularly awful. IMMEDIATELY after leaving Auburn goes to Penn State and has them ranked as 2nd-best defense in the Big Ten, 16th nationally in scoring defense and 29th nationally in total defense. Then moves to Georgia Tech in 2013 and 2014. Jackets win division and are in top third nationally of scoring defense in FBS. 12th nationally in turnovers gained. Suddenly knows what he's doing again.
Brian Van Gorder (2012): Produced some of the best defenses in Georgia history - top 10 in the country in total defense multiple years in a row. Won Broyles Award as top assistant in country. Then goes to run the Falcons D for 4 years. Moves to Auburn, suddenly forgets everything he knows about football. (Should be noted Gus was not OC during this time, but the defensive personnel was a byproduct of the previous few years of ruin under Chiz/Gus when they were scoring a billion points a game but also allowing that many.)
Ellis Johnson (2013-14): Noted defensive mind. Served on defensive staff under Gene Stallings during title run and also as DC under DuBose. Head coach at Citadel and Southern Miss. Also served as DC at Clemson, MSU and asst. head coach at South Carolina. Carolina defenses, also complemented by a wide open offense, still ranked highly nationally and were well-respected. Goes to Auburn, suddenly couldn't stop a team of Girl Scouts from raiding his house and stealing everything he owns. Promptly fired.
--GUS BEFORE AUBURN---
Before he went to Auburn, Gus served an OC stint at Tulsa. In 2007, Tulsa went 10-4 but it's defense was astoundingly bad. In 10 of 14 games they gave up 25+ points. In 6 of those, they gave up 39+. In 2008, they gave up 25+ in 8 of 14 games. IN CONFERENCE USA.
In 2012 during his lone HC year at Arky State, they had a good record but gave up point totals of 34, 28, 42, 26, 29, 27, 23 and 34 during the course of the year.
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At some point, it might be wise to quit acting like they even care about defense or that Gus isn't the sole reason it's terrible. It's not going to get better as long as their offense is trying to play basketball on grass. Bear Bryant couldn't make their defense good at this point.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 10:46 am
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:47 am to Tuscaloosa
gus is good with offense and bad with defense, this isn't some new revelation.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:48 am to Tuscaloosa
Congratulations on proving the guy who wrote all that is like super obsessed with Aubun.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:49 am to Tuscaloosa
quote:We ran 1 more play than Bama this year. Maybe Nashtide is trying to shoehorn his perception into reality.
It's not going to get better as long as their offense is trying to play basketball on grass.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:49 am to Tuscaloosa
Great, another shitty opinion article.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:49 am to Tuscaloosa
what are you doing? Let them keep thinking he is a wizard. I want Gus there for a long time.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:50 am to WDE24
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We ran 1 more play than Bama this year.
That can be deceptive.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:50 am to WDE24
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We ran 1 more play than Bama this year. Maybe Nashtide is trying to shoehorn his perception into reality.
Yeah, that doesn't fit the agenda.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:51 am to Tuscaloosa
Gus knows how to hide a football and start a play before the D is ready. He is not HC material...but don't tell the barners.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:51 am to Tuscaloosa
LOL deceptive?
Okay lets go to TOP Auburn had the ball just 30-40 seconds less per game than Bama.
Okay lets go to TOP Auburn had the ball just 30-40 seconds less per game than Bama.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:51 am to AUbagman
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Great, another shitty opinion article.
Feel free to discuss and dispute.
Auburn has fired better defensive coordinators over the last 5 years than some schools in the SEC have ever had.
Why is that? Do these guys all of a sudden forget how to coach football once they get to Auburn? Is the lemonade making them lazy?
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 10:52 am
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:51 am to AUbagman
quote:It is really not an article. It is from a really obsessed Alabama message board poster
Great, another shitty opinion article.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:52 am to Tuscaloosa
It's really weird that after beating Auburn and moving toward the playoff, Alabama is desperately trying to damage GM's reputation. Bizarre really.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:53 am to Tuscaloosa
I think what you say is basically true. it seems that gus's best defense was last year. of course, the KNOWN FACT on this board is that any coach doing good did it with the previous coaches players (or is that just Miles).
imo, time of possession is important to defenses. also, something that doesn't get mentioned much is that offensive minded coaches go after offensive recruits harder and they often put their best players on offense.
gus's "genius" should be classified up there with sumlins "genius". those guys know how to light up the yardage gained category.
imo, time of possession is important to defenses. also, something that doesn't get mentioned much is that offensive minded coaches go after offensive recruits harder and they often put their best players on offense.
gus's "genius" should be classified up there with sumlins "genius". those guys know how to light up the yardage gained category.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:53 am to auburnphan23
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auburnphan23
I think you're lost. There's a newspaper archive from 1948 somewhere that you need to be browsing looking for the best "bammer cheats" articles.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:53 am to Robin Masters
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Gus knows how to hide a football and start a play before the D is ready.
Did you miss when Bama went into hurry up mode? I bet you missed it due to all your whining about the refs.
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