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re: "Hey Gus: Maybe it's not them. Maybe it's YOU"
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:17 pm to Lg
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:17 pm to Lg
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AU's defensive ineptness has nothing to do with how fast the AU offense runs a play, how quick they score or the defense being tired because of it. I believe it's because that's all the defense practices against. Gus wants his offense to be very proficient, so that takes practicing his offense against his #1 and #2 defense. And when that's what the defense has to practice against all the time and then has to play a team like Bama, Georgia or even TAMU, which is more of a passing spread attack unlike Gus's run oriented attack, the players get confused with other teams schemes. Just my theory. No other team run's Gus's offense. With that said, can Gus emulate another offense when his offense is all he and his players know?
Freeze and Gus run very similar offenses yet Ole Miss had a very stout defense. Urban at Florida ran an offense that was unlike any other offense but they too had dominant defenses. LSU can't complete a forward pass but they continue to have one of the best secondaries in the country.
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:20 pm to DesmondHume
You know not what you say.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:27 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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the thread is about aubie's offense killing their defense per time of possession, etc.
Our TOP for the season was higher than Ole Miss, Georgia, Miss St, A&M, Vandy, Kentucky, Tennessee and Missouri. We had the ball 1 whole second per game less than Florida.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:44 pm to jvilletiger25
Just relating you what a friend of mine who works in a college football program told me, it was their opinion on the matter. Feel free to tifwiw but he was simply telling his feelings on the correlation which seems to be very real I think. Bottom line is running this sort of offense doesn't allow for quality defensive practice in their opinion.
- and to interject my opinion, I believe most people, whether or not they played college football, know that the scout team runs what the opposing team will, but what happens in spring ball and fall camp before the season?
- and to interject my opinion, I believe most people, whether or not they played college football, know that the scout team runs what the opposing team will, but what happens in spring ball and fall camp before the season?
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:47 pm to marshallcotiger
This is what happens when nerds write about football. They don't understand the game. One thing is for sure - it's been several years in the SEC and Gus can score. Nobody can consistently stop his offense. If his teams want to consistently win titles - they have to improve on defense. This means he has to find a defensive coach that help him when he needs it. This is no different than Saban (completely inept as an offensive coach) had to go hire Kiffen to keep up with Gus. Now Gus must counter with someone like Muschamp to hold serve. Without Kiffen - Bama would have lost by 3 td's instead of winning by as much. Give Saban credit - he recognized his weakness. Gus is doing the same.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:49 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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Just relating you what a friend of mine who works in a college football program told me, it was their opinion on the matter. Feel to regard tifwiw but he was simply telling their feelings on the correlation which seems to be very real I think. Bottom line is running this sort of offense doesn't allow for quality defensive practice in their opinion.
Correct. It's a complete waste for a team's defense in the spring.
Spring is about learning base techniques and fundamentals, and this "schemes" them out of it.
Funny side note: Gus got all pissy at Arkansas when Reggie Herring was blitzing in spring ball.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:05 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Arkansas style will never win anything. You may win a couple games but you will never have the players LSU, Bama, and UGA have so you really have no hope. Have fun - maybe you'll make 3rd in the west next year.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:14 am to RedMustang
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Do the numbers 44 and 628 mean anything to you? When was the last time Bama gave up more points and yards than that while playing at home? I'll hang up and listen.
No one is saying that Gus didn't light up Bama's D statistically in the first half. But as you know, those FG's instead of TD's were the difference in the game. And you have to give Bama's D credit for that and I won't say none of them have, but very few Auburn fans are giving any credit to Bama's D for that.
And yes I know there were two dropped passes that would have been TD's but they happened and that's just the way it is.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:18 am to Othello
Many have given Bama's D credit for that. We are all painfully aware of what that cost our team in that game. There was a thread that was one of the most civil I have seen in a while with several AU fans saying as much.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:19 am to CheeseburgerEddie
quote:Ron Sannders at AUC?
Just relating you what a friend of mine who works in a college football program told me
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:20 am to Othello
quote:All of that is 100% correct. Defense aside, our red zone offense played a huge part in why we lost that game.
o one is saying that Gus didn't light up Bama's D statistically in the first half. But as you know, those FG's instead of TD's were the difference in the game. And you have to give Bama's D credit for that and I won't say none of them have, but very few Auburn fans are giving any credit to Bama's D for that.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:23 am to Othello
Bama's D gets credit for that. AU did drop 3 TD's but two of the drops were on the same series. Either way - Bama's D held. AU's D - well they should have held onto somebody. The two back to back deep balls to cooper were killer. That 4th and 3 conversion was huge for Bama as well. If they didn't get that - it may have gotten out of reach.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:44 am to Herman Frisco
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and our D ate your lunch this year.
This may be the most absurd statements I've seen in a long time. Although tough in the redzone, your defense gives up 44 points and 630 yards, and you see that as "eating their lunch?" I hope this was a joke; defense coordinators have gotten fired for less, although Smart has earned the benefit of the doubt.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 12:46 am
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:48 am to Tuscaloosa
The reason that the gap between the SEC and the rest of the conferences has shrunken over the past few seasons is an obvious one: defense.
A lot of these high-powered offenses in the SEC are being run at the expense of their defenses, something the rest of the country has been familiar with over the past 7-8 years. But when these high-powered, spread-type offenses met up with a big, strong, physical SEC defense, they usually suffered the same unsuccessful fate.
SEC defenses have fallen off, though. 2011 it was still mostly a defensive league, especially at the top. 2012 it started to turn. 2013 it was almost all offense.
Imagine when the SEC defenses get really good again. Because it will happen. These things go in cycles and trends. Elite defenses are what separated the SEC from the rest of the country before, and it will be back to that again soon.
When that trend reverses (like soon, once Muschamp and maybe Pelini sign on as defensive coordinators at schools in conference), the SEC will go back to being miles better than the rest of the country.
LSU, Alabama, and Ole Mill should all have nasty, physical defenses next year. Arkansas should have a very formidable one, as well. If schools like Auburn and Texas A&M want to keep up in this conference, they better turn it around defensively. Because the rest of the conference is about to.
A&M came into the conference with their fast-paced spread offense at the perfect time, when SEC defenses weren't as good as they've been over the past 10 years. Yet, they still never finished higher than 3rd in the West. They need to be doing everything they possibly can to land Muschamp or Pelini, IMO. They have a lot of young talent coming up on that side of the ball, but they have to scheme and develop. If not, they'll become a cellar dweller very quickly.
A lot of these high-powered offenses in the SEC are being run at the expense of their defenses, something the rest of the country has been familiar with over the past 7-8 years. But when these high-powered, spread-type offenses met up with a big, strong, physical SEC defense, they usually suffered the same unsuccessful fate.
SEC defenses have fallen off, though. 2011 it was still mostly a defensive league, especially at the top. 2012 it started to turn. 2013 it was almost all offense.
Imagine when the SEC defenses get really good again. Because it will happen. These things go in cycles and trends. Elite defenses are what separated the SEC from the rest of the country before, and it will be back to that again soon.
When that trend reverses (like soon, once Muschamp and maybe Pelini sign on as defensive coordinators at schools in conference), the SEC will go back to being miles better than the rest of the country.
LSU, Alabama, and Ole Mill should all have nasty, physical defenses next year. Arkansas should have a very formidable one, as well. If schools like Auburn and Texas A&M want to keep up in this conference, they better turn it around defensively. Because the rest of the conference is about to.
A&M came into the conference with their fast-paced spread offense at the perfect time, when SEC defenses weren't as good as they've been over the past 10 years. Yet, they still never finished higher than 3rd in the West. They need to be doing everything they possibly can to land Muschamp or Pelini, IMO. They have a lot of young talent coming up on that side of the ball, but they have to scheme and develop. If not, they'll become a cellar dweller very quickly.
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