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re: Jaden Rashada sues Billy Napier, Florida booster over NIL deal

Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:11 am to
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:11 am to
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More likely a Florida fan on the TRant convinced him to sue and hasten Billy's demise.


TheCaw!!!
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
42055 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:13 am to
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Naked pay-for-play captured live in 4K is still well within the NCAA's rights to punish. This is different than the Nico case in some important ways. Additionally, the athlete in question is cooperating with the school and not the NCAA. Seems like Rashada would/has snitched on Florida.


I'm not worried about the NCAA at all. They would do us a favor if they gave us the death penalty as we already look like we are dead whenever we play. At least we would stop losing.
Posted by HogPharmer
Member since Jun 2022
1410 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:17 am to
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I’m just waiting for Saban offer his opinion and blame the boogeyman Jimbo.


Why are you still hung up on your ex?
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
2272 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:18 am to
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A "verbal promise" without any evidence isn't going to hold up. Now if Rashada has a recording of this, of course Napier will be fired. But he doesn't. He's still just chasing $.


While that's try, if a few more Florida recruits hop on board with this too he might get Herman Cained.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5785 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:24 am to
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Why are you still hung up on your ex?


That’s my ex’s acquaintance that ran around comparing herself to her friends in order to get her boyfriend to buy her nicer dinners.

That shite pissed me off.
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
Member since Dec 2023
2726 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:26 am to
DISNEY GATORS IN SHAMBLES

HAHAHAHAHAHAH
Posted by BlueMoonOfKentucky
Member since Feb 2024
211 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:27 am to
What a crybaby I hope he wins nothing. This is why nil money is a terrible idea why pay these entitled manbabies millions dollars. Guess a scholarship for football which let's them attend college free so they could play football is not enough.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
3812 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:29 am to
Doesn’t the payment require the ability to use Rashada’s name image and likeness? He didn’t fulfill his end of the contract either. Also he just opened up lawsuits for all these kids who commit to a school get paid and then leave before playing a snap. Kayden Proctor I’m looking at you.

Also paying $14M for a kid who sucks is what will kill NIL.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
2839 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:36 am to
Might be hard to prove "fraud" in a legal sense and he is going to have to show damages. What are his financial losses? He early enrolled at Arizona and likely got a nice NIL deal. Were his current or future earnings damaged by Florida? Maybe he missed out on a chance to sign with another program and get a better NIL deal but he is just as much to blame for playing footsie with the likes of Miami and Ruiz. He will likely have to potentially narc on Miami and other programs that may have had NIL deals that did not really follow the rules at that point. If you are going to claim damages, you need to start laying out the deals you lost out on during your short commitment to Florida.

Just sounds like a mess.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4625 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:37 am to
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Unless he has actual evidence, no he doesn't.

This is why we have contracts. "Billy told me we'd get a million dollars later that day!" isn't going to hold up to any legal scrutiny.


Verbal contracts do hold up in court. Witnesses and other corroborating evidence can lead courts to stipulate that a verbal contract was agreed to.

It needs to be more than just an offer though. If Billy said "We'll give you a million dollars if you come here", that's an offer, not a contract.

If Rashada responded "I'm a Gator then", it becomes a contract. But to prove it you generally need another party in the room who witnessed the exchange (or have a recording or both parties admit to the exchange happening if there is no witness).

There is some evidence that might be bad for UF in this. The NY times already wrote a story about Rashada's UF recruitment.

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This is the part that is interesting from that story:

"Nov. 10: Rashada and the Gator Collective agree to terms on an NIL deal exceeding $13 million. Such a massive pledge is thought to dramatically exceed the Gator Collective’s fundraising level, so the deal presumes assistance from Hathcock or other Gator Guard donors. After signing the contract, Rashada decommits from Miami and flips to Florida."

That seems to indicate that a written contract WAS signed. If so, that's VERY bad news for UF NIL. Then you have this:

"Dec. 7: Rojas sends a termination letter regarding the $13 million contract, according to a program source close to the situation. There are conflicting accounts about why the deal crumbled and who pledged to pay what. Multiple conversations ensue between donors and athletic department members, including Castro-Walker and Stricklin. Some within the administration are only now getting up to speed on what was promised — the program aiming to keep these third-party NIL dealings at arm’s length. Yet these conversations ultimately focus on finding contingencies for keeping the class’ highest-profile recruit in the fold."

"Jan. 11: A program source with knowledge of the entanglement says Rashada won’t be enrolling at Florida. “There’s a lot of panic. It’s like stepping on an ant pile.” There’s also the potential for litigation, hinging upon whether the November contract is binding. The collectives, according to another program source with knowledge of the situation, are offering a lesser deal to Rashada — still above seven figures — to stay at Florida, with the caveat that he release everyone from all previous claims."

"Jan. 17: Rashada asks for a scholarship release, sources close to the program confirmed to The Athletic. 247Sports was the first to report the filing."
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
Member since Dec 2023
2726 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:40 am to
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Sounds like the boosters are looking for a reason to get rid of Sunbelt Billy to avoid the buyout.
the boosters love Billy

He misses their asses and massages their fragile egos
Posted by 2020Champs
Member since Oct 2021
53 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:56 am to
This kid and his parents are pieces of crap, from the beginning he was
shopping for the highest bidder. If a kid leaves I don't think any school or
booster should pay them a dime. This is what is wrong with paying a kid
before they have proved themselves.
Posted by HogPharmer
Member since Jun 2022
1410 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 11:16 am to
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It needs to be more than just an offer though


What if it's a strong arse offer?
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35939 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 11:21 am to
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billy napier being fired would definitely be bad for UGA.


y'all keep saying this, but it's not.


quote:

they might upgrade to someone competitive.


Posted by ForeverGator
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Member since Nov 2012
13205 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 11:23 am to
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finchmeister08


I’m convinced you haven’t banned TheDumbassCAW from the Florida board because “he/she/they/it” is your alter.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35939 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 11:24 am to
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Uh huh and yet here you are telling us you know Heitner shares in blame.


Heitner was all over Twitter hanging out with Ruiz during the 2022-2023 recruiting cycle.

Could be something.

Could be nothing.

But it definitely wasn't a good look considering how Ruiz turned out.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35939 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 11:25 am to
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I’m convinced you haven’t banned TheDumbassCAW from the Florida board because “he/she/they/it” is your alter.


i don't have the charisma to pull off being TheCaw.
Posted by ForeverGator
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 11:26 am to
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But it definitely wasn't a good look considering how Ruiz turned out.


Isn’t Ruiz’s company in bankruptcy?

I feel for kids that fall for that bum.

At least our boosters have real money.
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
Member since Dec 2023
2726 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 11:26 am to
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i don't have the charisma to pull off being TheCaw
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35939 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 11:44 am to
Hugh's replacement, Hal Lewis, has chimed in:

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Often been reported that Rashada's UF NIL contract allowed either side to terminate it at ANY time for ANY reason. This is probably why it's not plead as a simple "breach of contract" case. VERY important distinction.

Instead, it looks like a "tortious interference of contract" case, which means the underlying claim is that Rashada was "defrauded" out of his $9 million Miami NIL contract by people at UF who never had any intention of honoring a UF deal. This seems ridiculous to claim and impossible to prove, since clearly UF wanted Rashada to play for UF.

Especially, if alleged, Rashada was given $150k to help get out of the Miami deal. What, UF people gave him $150k just to trick him out of his Miami deal but NOT to play for UF? Nonsense, he was not "defrauded" out of the Miami deal -- his family chose that path. Moral of the story is to never walk away from life-changing money for green(d)er pastures.

The Rashada family clearly should have had an attorney advising them at the time and reviewing all contracts. No lawyer would have let them voluntarily leave a binding $9 million deal to sign one that could be terminated at will at any time. That's not a contract... it's a worthless piece of paper.

UF exercised their option to terminate the deal BEFORE he signed a letter of intent, so he was free to sign elsewhere and get any deal he could... including Miami and the same $9 million deal... although one could understand why Ruiz may have not wanted any part of him by then.

It sounds like the UF deal was terminated due to misunderstandings over compensation and exactly where it would come from. "Misunderstanding" is a LONG way from fraud.
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