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re: Jaden Rashada sues Billy Napier, Florida booster over NIL deal
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:35 pm to jonnyanony
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:35 pm to jonnyanony
Then maybe it should collapse. Start over with a new governing body & new set of rules.
Ive met a handful of very wealthy people before & it didn-t seem like any of them got that way from spending like a drunkard. Most of them are accountable for every penny. They're already asked to pay for coach's buyouts & athletic facilities - now they're hit up to pay four star QB's two million a year. At some point, I'd think you get tired of it.
Ive met a handful of very wealthy people before & it didn-t seem like any of them got that way from spending like a drunkard. Most of them are accountable for every penny. They're already asked to pay for coach's buyouts & athletic facilities - now they're hit up to pay four star QB's two million a year. At some point, I'd think you get tired of it.
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:43 pm to jonnyanony
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Oh, cool. Did he sign that deal?
According to the latest information he did.
UF then offered him more and he believed them. UF was supposed to give him 500,000 as an initial payment, but instead they cancelled the the day after that payment was due, but kept telling him that he'd get the money, just directly from Hathcock rather than from the gator NIL collective.
Napier, Hathcock and Castro-Walker all apparently told Rashada he'd get the original deal, staring with 1 million the day after signing day. He was foolish to believe them, but he was swayed by their lies and because of that did not seek to get a NIL deal elsewhere (potentially missing the opportunity to get the same deal from Miami he had been offered before).
When that money didn't arrive, he got a release from his NIL and went to play for ASU, for no guaranteed NIL money.
The issue with the gator collective is simply if he is due the 500,000 that was supposed to be paid before they cancelled the deal. The issue with Napier, Hathcock and Castro-Walker is that they lied to him to make him think he'd still get paid when they had no intention to do so, thus taking away his opportunity to sign a NIL deal elsewhere. The two benchmarks on what he could have made are the contract he signed with UF (over 13 million) and the contract he signed with Miami (9.5 million).
That's why 1 year's worth of the Miami contract is likely the minimum number that will be awarded if the court/jury finds his story to be true. It's the lowest number. It could be the first year of the UF contract. Or the full Miami contract. Or the full UF contract. There's also punitive damages being asked for that could drive the three defendant's financial liability even higher.
And yes, when I say "UF" above, I don't mean the school. I mean Napier, Hathcock and Castro-Walker.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:47 pm to AlterDWI
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I struggle with the fact that the foundation of college football is the willingness of paticular boosters to throw away tens of millions of dollars every year.
How is this a sustainable model?
UGA had 242.8 million dollars in donations last year (University wide, not just for football). Compared to some schools that's peanuts. But effectively it's still people who like a school giving money to it without any real return. That's been going on for a LONG time now.
People are willing to give money to help the school they attended. Some want to give that money to help them do better at football. It's not a new thing. And it's been sustained for decades.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 5:58 pm to DawginSC
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The definition of the bolded part:
"Tortious interference with contract arises when a defendant intentionally convinces or causes a third party to breach its contract with the plaintiff, which results in damages to the plaintiff."
So effectively.... breach of contract.
No, it’s still not breach of contract.
He is not alleging that UF/Napier/the boosters breached their contract with him. At least not directly. It’s more complicated than that.
He doesn’t dispute UF’s right to terminate the contract anywhere in the complaint. He also does not claim that they owe him $500k as damages for the missed payment.
Instead, he is effectively claiming that UF negotiated in bad faith in order to convince him to break an existing contract with Miami. Hence tortious interference. He’s saying UF never intended to live up to their end of the agreement, and that their misrepresentation led to termination of his contract/agreement with Miami.
Will be interesting to see whether this moves forward or not. One thing I’m fairly confident of - I can’t imagine anyone on the Florida side of this wants it to go to discovery. Would be epic to see some of the text messages and emails behind closed doors on this thing become public.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:31 pm to DawginSC
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UF didn't just break the contract, they apparently jerked him around to prevent him from signing elsewhere (most specifically, Miami).
UF wasn't a party to any contract. He's not suing the collective that was. This should make the motivation pretty clear. Cause a PR disaster for the school so they just pay him to go away.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:02 pm to Tvilletiger
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Rashada is a cancer. Florida should not be upset they lost him. They dodged a bullet. Wonder what Kirby thinks about this?
Georgia is probably financing the lawsuit lol
you self righteous twat
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:30 am to finchmeister08
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Could be something. Could be nothing.
Amazingly, you've gone from "he's part of the problem" to "idk" in the span of four posts.
As it relates to the Rashada ordeal, the vitriol towards Heitner is based off a post by an alleged mid-level booster going by HalleyGator that alleged that Heitner inserted a "poison pill" in the deal that would have forced the Gator Collective to pay LifeWallet 6M. He claimed the Gator Collective signed Rashada for 7M and the 6+7 is how the 13M figure was determined. Well, we now know all of that is bullshite based on the contract that has been made available.
As for the photos with Ruiz, is it really shocking that two South Florida attorneys would cross paths, especially given their connection with the Cavinder twins? "Hanging all over Twitter" was two photos. Darren is a UF fanatic. The idea that he would sandbag a deal and make his university look like shite is ludicrous.
Congratulations! Your issues with the dude stem from an online post littered with incorrect information.
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 4:34 am
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:46 am to Miznoz
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Wonder what Kirby thinks about this?
According to Josh Pate, the parents of Rashada told Kirby of their intentions before he went to Georgia and was given Kirby's blessings. What a huge distraction for the usual button-down coach.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 6:20 am to bamameister
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What a huge distraction for the usual button-down coach.
Huge is quite the exaggeration
Posted on 5/22/24 at 6:33 am to djsdawg
If Kirby had the choice, the lawsuit wouldn't have been filed.
But
1) rashada has a legitimate grievance. Kirby is on the side of the student athlete when merited.
2) rashada is the 3rd string qb and is fighting for a starting job in 2025. This isn't the same type of distraction if he were the starter.
But
1) rashada has a legitimate grievance. Kirby is on the side of the student athlete when merited.
2) rashada is the 3rd string qb and is fighting for a starting job in 2025. This isn't the same type of distraction if he were the starter.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:00 am to meansonny
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If Kirby had the choice, the lawsuit wouldn't have been filed.
Kirby did have the choice. He looks like he took a flyer on a player who just picked his 4th school in a year. It has been reported that "he gave his blessings." Do you honestly believe that Kirby wouldn't mind all the negative press this brings to his main rival?
Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:10 am to Diego Ricardo
Three things can be true at once
1) Rashada is a cancer and UF dodged a bullet by not landing him.
2) If Billy is proven to be personally involved then he's done and toast.
3) Might be another huge win for Florida if they can fire Billy with cause and not pay his buyout. He's already on the hot seat, this could be a get-out-of-jail free card
1) Rashada is a cancer and UF dodged a bullet by not landing him.
2) If Billy is proven to be personally involved then he's done and toast.
3) Might be another huge win for Florida if they can fire Billy with cause and not pay his buyout. He's already on the hot seat, this could be a get-out-of-jail free card
Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:45 am to bamameister
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Kirby did have the choice.
Kirby isn't the plaintiff.
It isn't kirby's choice.
Rashada ran it by kirby.
That doesn't make it kirby's choice.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:47 am to bamameister
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Do you honestly believe that Kirby wouldn't mind all the negative press this brings to his main rival?
Kirby doesn't want a distraction for his team.
Great coaches worry about their own team. Not the one a state away.
Rashada is the 3rd string qb.
And (thankfully) lawyers do ALL of the lawyering. Rashada's job is to learn the offense, help his teammates, and stay out of trouble.
Filing the suit is righting a wrong.
It is not finding or inserting trouble.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:49 am to bamameister
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He looks like he took a flyer on a player who just picked his 4th school in a year.
I think that is understating Rashada.
He is a good QB who could use elite weapons and an elite OL. He may be able to develop into a better QB than that. Mike Bobo is a good QB coach.
This is not a "flyer" on a kid. By everything I have read, Rashada was an ideal teammate and great athlete at Arizona St.
If you have something more to share, then go ahead.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:59 am to meansonny
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He is a good QB who could use elite weapons and an elite OL. He may be able to develop into a better QB than that.
Even for a FR, he looked pretty bad in limited time against FCS competition. Honestly, I think he knows his time to get paid for football is the next 3 years and he's going to get whatever he can.
I could be wrong, but I don't think he'll be an NFL QB and I doubt he'll beat out anyone on UGA. In all likelihood he'll transfer again to a smaller school and hope his resume against lower competition will get him UDFA status.
I'm not judging his character, but kids out of HS in 2024 are looking to get paid and paid now. The idea of sticking with a school and working hard seems to be in the rearview mirror now.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:01 am to bamameister
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It has been reported that "he gave his blessings."
Saying that Smart "gave his blessings" is an attempt by some reporter to create controversy. I'm pretty positive Kirby never said those words, so your quote marks are meaningless.
The Rashada's informed Kirby of their intent to sue and asked if that lawsuit would affect his status at UGA. Kirby said it wouldn't. He didn't encourage or "bless" a private lawsuit against Florida's coach/booster.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:05 am to wdhalgren
I don't see any reason to blame Smart for this either way. The kid is already trigger happy on transfers, what's he going to say? File the suit and you're on the bench?
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:32 am to jonnyanony
At the end of the day, this kid was paid by a Miami collective and didn't sign with them and was paid by a Florida collective and didn't sign with them. Now only the Florida collective is out money and they aren't even named in the lawsuit.
He is totally looking for the people named in the suit to settle before any discovery and they will. It's just a cash grab by a kid who is looking to take advantage of a ridiculously fricked up system. The lawyers are driving it of course as they know no one from UF will file a countersuit.
This is what the NIL and transfer portal has brought us. Rivals can laugh at UF for having to go through it now, but everyone is going to have their turn in the barrel.
He is totally looking for the people named in the suit to settle before any discovery and they will. It's just a cash grab by a kid who is looking to take advantage of a ridiculously fricked up system. The lawyers are driving it of course as they know no one from UF will file a countersuit.
This is what the NIL and transfer portal has brought us. Rivals can laugh at UF for having to go through it now, but everyone is going to have their turn in the barrel.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:45 am to bigDgator
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At the end of the day, this kid was paid by a Miami collective and didn't sign with them and was paid by a Florida collective and didn't sign with them. Now only the Florida collective is out money and they aren't even named in the lawsuit.
Not true.
He wasn't paid by Miami, he ended the contract before he was due to be paid due to a promise of more pay from UF.
He also wasn't paid by UF, even though UF didn't end the contract until the day after he was due to be paid.
He was also promised to be paid the day after signing day by Napier and Hatchcock. He wasn't paid then either, despite doing what he was supposed to do for that payment (signing with UF).
If he had been paid by UF, he'd be at UF. Instead UF jerked him around and screwed him out of a payday, either from UF or from another school.
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 8:47 am
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