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Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:10 am to RandySavage
Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:10 am to RandySavage
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Why commit on Aug. 5 if you are torn?
Miami coming in with the $$$$
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:32 am to RandySavage
To secure your spot?
Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:34 am to AubieinNC2009
After seeing their over night turnaround in MBB that led to stomping Auburn, and an elite 8 appearance and a Miami player later saying he deserved more money afterwards, are you surprised? Also if you were a Miami fan you’d be helluva excited right now but would you be proud to say yeah, we are slinging money at these kids and it’s great to be us.. Success is desirable, but by NIL is a catch 22. Cristobal is a great recruiter in his own right don’t get me wrong but NIL is introducing a more significant taint than hush hush recruiting. There should be a cap on NIL in collegiate sports. Let’s say 100,000 per year. Teams that are interested at paying the maximum cap can put their hat in the ring for an athlete, but no college of higher learning should be worried about getting outbid by a significant amount beyond reasonable asking prices. And each university as represented by their donors should have a limit as well. If they want to pay max price for 15 players and exhaust their limit, let their other kids transfer away. Someone else will pay their NIL. Long gone are the days where a HS athlete in Texas needs to go to Alabama anyway. They can just collect their money at Texas, or Tech, or wherever, right at home.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:51 am to jangalang
quote:jang, you're talking sense.
There should be a cap on NIL in collegiate sports. Let’s say 100,000 per year. Teams that are interested at paying the maximum cap can put their hat in the ring for an athlete, but no college of higher learning should be worried about getting outbid by a significant amount beyond reasonable asking prices. And each university as represented by their donors should have a limit as well. If they want to pay max price for 15 players and exhaust their limit, let their other kids transfer away. Someone else will pay their NIL.
But I have to admit, the idea of a 'salary cap' on collegiate sports pretty much buries the myth of the 'student-athlete'. Why even make them enroll? Just pay them to put on the uniform and stop pretending they have anything to do with the 'student' part of it, unless they choose to do so on their own.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:59 am to FearlessFreep
To think this all started because college athletes wanted some walking around money, now some make more by 19 then some of us might ever see in a lifetime
Posted on 8/4/22 at 12:01 pm to FearlessFreep
Good point. Amateurism is already dead though. Going to class is just a facade. There are some actual student athletes like Brahms that will do well in life outside of the arena. Those guys aren’t commanding NIL deals. The guys drawing much NIL think they are getting drafted ASAP.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 12:25 pm to jangalang
JHead just posted that he no longer feels confident about our chances with Hughley either.
No surprise from me there. Georgia isn't going to let that one get away.
No surprise from me there. Georgia isn't going to let that one get away.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 12:27 pm to jangalang
Smoke Monday, here's to hoping he got that degree.
It'll end the round of 64 (diff sport) if we don't get a handle on the NIL. There won't be that many elite schools once everyone is paying no-max possible dollars. And it'll do the same with football.
It'll end the round of 64 (diff sport) if we don't get a handle on the NIL. There won't be that many elite schools once everyone is paying no-max possible dollars. And it'll do the same with football.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 1:56 pm to jangalang
quote:He's a troll. Every time we're about to lose a recruit he comes on a post about it being a close decision to build peoples hopes up one last time. Lew to Miami is done.
Chad Simmons is aware of Miami’s confidence but sticking with Aubrun for Lew.
For what its worth JLee said whatever happened was specific to Lew. Not sure what it means, but it means something lol.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:04 pm to jt33
Jhead who seems to be an insider with some info said he is no longer confident in Bo Hughley flipping. Couldn't say the reason why but something changed the last few days that he doesn't see it happening now.
What has happened in the past week that changed so much with recruits?
What has happened in the past week that changed so much with recruits?
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:08 pm to AubieinNC2009
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something changed the last few days
Posted on 8/4/22 at 7:16 pm to AubieinNC2009
This staff sucks at recruiting. That’s it. That’s the truth.
And another swing and miss on the LB Ausberry.
And another swing and miss on the LB Ausberry.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 7:53 pm to TTsTowel
TT, You know it was Covid, or first year staff, or not from the region, or the boogey men behind the scenes, or negative recruiting, or NIL.
It's definitely not in control of the coaches. I'm finally becoming woke. my pronouns are he/him
It's definitely not in control of the coaches. I'm finally becoming woke. my pronouns are he/him
Posted on 8/4/22 at 8:23 pm to MrAUTigers
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To secure your spot?
In that case it must be Miami.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 6:49 am to RandySavage
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In that case it must be Miami.
that's what I am thinking also. maybe we can flip him.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:32 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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This staff sucks at recruiting. That’s it. That’s the truth. -- TTsTowel
If you listen to the short podcast excerpt in the "Bruce on the NIL" thread on this board, Bruce is clearly saying that Auburn just doesn't have it together on the NIL yet. Moreover, there's no huge pile of money there waiting to be spent. The PTB are having to make some tough decisions on capital budgeting for all sports.
Bruce doesn't act mad or worried. Sounds like he is cautiously optimistic about the future. But you can certainly extrapolate what Bruce says here to our football program.
Harsin may or may not be a good recruiter. I don't know. But you can't accurately assess Harsin's long-term recruiting ability yet, given the timing of when he came in, how we finished with Gus, the subsequent start of the NIL, and AU not being up to speed with the NIL as fast as Bama, UGA, and others.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 7:36 am
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:43 am to PrisonMike
And I get it: there are coaches who are better recruiters than others.
But if you don't think that recruiting ability is 80% "How much are you going to pay me?", you aren't be honest with yourself. Coaches that have historically been 'good recruiters' recruited well because their boosters were willing to pay and they got away with it.
The NIL gives all coaches the opportunity to level the playing field. But because of historical success and wealthy boosters, some colleges have a huge head start. If Auburn boosters aren't willing to pay as much as others for success, we won't get it. Period.
But if you don't think that recruiting ability is 80% "How much are you going to pay me?", you aren't be honest with yourself. Coaches that have historically been 'good recruiters' recruited well because their boosters were willing to pay and they got away with it.
The NIL gives all coaches the opportunity to level the playing field. But because of historical success and wealthy boosters, some colleges have a huge head start. If Auburn boosters aren't willing to pay as much as others for success, we won't get it. Period.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 7:45 am
Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:39 am to PrisonMike
May be time for new leaders ( not talking coaching). Our boosters are still paying off coaches which I assume hurts that value that would be spent towards NIL.
Tim C needs to be a private donor of 1mm / yr min.
Tim C needs to be a private donor of 1mm / yr min.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:39 am to attalla
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Our boosters are still paying off coaches
Ding Ding Ding. Not the only factor, but we'd be fooling ourselves if we tried to argue it isn't impacting our ability to use NIL to the fullest extent we can.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 9:40 am
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:47 am to TailbackU
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In case you haven’t noticed, recruiting has changed with NIL. We can’t seem to get our shite together as a school on the NIL front which is why recruiting is suffering.
Thanks tailback, some on here just dont get it. Many of these kids we are recruiting have a single mom holding down three jobs, he has six siblings, and a kid of his own. He doesnt give a shat if Harsin attends his school's bbq, he wants to be able to buy some Pampers for his kid.
Regarding the portal, this coming year more kids will enter the portal, for football, than will sign schollys out of high school. Digest that for a moment. So do you spend all your time recruiting high school kids (goodness knows those 5 stars pan out, need I mention some of our busts), or do you spend a good portion of your time trying to get proven players, in your position of need?
To your point tailback, seems Harsin has really beefed up the recruiting to be focused on the portal. Good for him.
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