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re: You need evidence to allege "termination for cause" or else it's defamation.
Posted by metafour on 11/11/25 at 7:17 pm to jimmy the leg
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Only in theory.
The state of Louisiana will be on the hook.
Good luck getting a dime.
You realize that trying this play would make any future coaching contract you put in front of a coaching candidate worth less than the price of the paper, right?
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re: If You Had to Pick Between Durkin & Sumrall
Posted by metafour on 11/11/25 at 6:26 pm to Johnnycrane
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Flipping the roster would land us in the exact same position in 2028. I guarantee you. We flip the roster and lose even worse next season causing nearly EVERYONE in the fanbase to keep the negative train pumping.
This is complete bullshite, and Texas A&M just proved this. When Elko came in they had a mass exodus of almost all of Jimbo's famed super-class recruits (those ~two famous classes where they went crazy with the money they were throwing around). The vast majority of those top players transferred out: Walter Nolan to Ole Miss, Evan Stewart to Oregon, LT Overton to Bama, etc. Despite that, they are undefeated just two years later...because Elko replaced them all through the Portal with his own guys.
The correct coach can lose supposed "talent" and simply replace them through correct evaluation. The thing that most Auburn fans forget is that our current roster is very highly compensated. Why does everyone think that we have had so few departures through all of these lame losing seasons under Freeze? Its because our guys are paid a lot. If they were to hypothetically leave, it would open up a TON of NIL funds to immediately throw at talent from other teams.
A&M pulled Craver from MSU, and Concepcion from NC State. They have a kid with 10.5 sacks this season who Elko pulled from Bowling Green (Cashius Howell). Their leading tackler this season (Marcus Ratcliffe) came from San Diego State.
Fear-mongering over losing players is stupid. At the end of the day, money is the best recruiter. I don't give a shite how much they like DJ Durkin: if you pay any of these kids enough money and sell them on the new vision, you will have a good chance to retain the players you want. If they don't want to stay, then the next guy is waiting in the Portal.
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Mike is my fave
Mike G. is starting to annoy the shite out of me. He is clearly way too close to the players/status-quo and he is now starting to go into full moron territory by telling fans to email Cohen to tell him to hire Durkin. He can't make any rational arguments whatsoever and both him and Kyle Rush are fanning the clueless Auburn fans into this weird irrational Durkin love-fest.
A few years ago Mike G. and the War Rapport guys were also going batshit crazy over T-Will with the same nonsense about making him the DC and convincing clueless fans into believing that he was some elite coach that we needed at all costs. He has no idea WTF he is talking about most of the time and can't help himself from interjecting his clear bias.
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Dilly went to the playoffs his 2nd season as a HC. Arizona State was like 3-9 when he got there. Media experts picked them LAST in the big-12 the season Dilly won the conference and made the playoffs.
I am looking at stats and Dilly has improved both the offensive and defensive stats every year (including this year).
I mean I don't understand the hate at all. To me he would be a great hire. I can't think of another sitting P4 head coach (who would leave) that I'd rather have honestly.
All correct. People seem to forget that he took over at ASU right after that Herm Edwards shite-show where the NCAA spanked them. What he has done at ASU is in fact a huge success.
Dillingham is highly thought of in the coaching profession. So much so that he was one of the first guys that Lanning called when he took the Oregon job (they worked together while at Memphis). A ~year later he ends up getting the HC job at a mid-level Pac 12 school at only ~32/33 years old. He is extremely young.
Having said that, he is a bit emotional so I'm not sure if he is ready for the SEC or how he would fit at Auburn. But he is high-energy and players will like him a lot.
I've called it out a few times already, but Auburn fans have this moronic belief that anyone even remotely associated with Malzahn is somehow a complete non-question. I don't even understand why considering that Malzahn was overall a success here. You have morons who think that Lashlee (who is now one fo the ~10 highest paid coaches in the entire country) would be a joke hire. Guys - Dillingham and Lashlee would both be WELL ABOVE the usual caliber that Auburn hires as HC.
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Now even if you consider Leach as a decent hire at the time it was considered to be a risky WTH? type of hire.
Not really. Leach was considered a "WTF" hire because he was a weirdo and the move came out of nowhere. He was actually very highly accomplished with his Texas Tech and WSU records, and a high level hire for a program of MSU's caliber.
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Uh no. Once you become an NFL head coach you have a job for life at least as a position coach or coordinator. All of which make plenty money
How is that any different from the NCAA? Lane Kiffin can go be an OC wherever he wants in college, and the top coordinators in the NCAA make basically as much as an NFL coordinator.
Auburn is paying DJ Durkin $2.5M this season to be the DC. That is almost $1M more than Jeff Ulbricht reportedly makes as the DC of the Atlanta Falcons.
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Knowing Cohen is on thin ice.... I think he exhausts all efforts on Lanning, Lane, Freeman etc..... when and if those fail then it's Summral Dilly Lashlee etc....
I don't agree that this is the plan at all. All three of those are firmly on path to make the playoffs, which makes their already highly unlikely odds even more contentious because the time-frame of when you can even hire them is later than any realistic candidate. If you wait and swing and miss on any of these (and lets be real, none of them are leaving their current Playoff job to come here) then who can you even fall back to? You're not falling back to Dillingham in that case. You are falling back to Charles Kelly, my guy.
I don't believe that Cohen is that stupid. And look at the names you brought up. Lanning has a ~$20M buyout that he owes if he leaves and reportedly up to ~$20-30M in Nike stock compensation that he loses if he leaves. That guy is not leaving Oregon nor does he have any reason to leave Oregon. So no, John Cohen absolutely does NOT need to wait and exhaust all efforts to make Lanning "say no" because it is a losing proposition from the start.
re: Freeze fired official/coaching search thread
Posted by metafour on 11/10/25 at 9:03 am to kung fu kenny
I don't get what point you are trying to make.
We gave it our all going for Kiffin last time, and he said no. Who gives a shite how close it was? If he wanted to be here, he would have taken the job. And at the time we were the best SEC job open.
LSU is a "better" job than Auburn, and Florida is publicly considered to be as well. Florida also has a bonus on the Kiffin side in that he likes living in Florida, and he grew up idolizing Spurrier so there may be some feel-good magic about getting to coach there.
So now we are at best the 3rd option for a guy who said no to us already once before. So why would we waste time there again? And we may actually be the 4th option: he could just prefer to stay at Ole Miss period.
We gave it our all going for Kiffin last time, and he said no. Who gives a shite how close it was? If he wanted to be here, he would have taken the job. And at the time we were the best SEC job open.
LSU is a "better" job than Auburn, and Florida is publicly considered to be as well. Florida also has a bonus on the Kiffin side in that he likes living in Florida, and he grew up idolizing Spurrier so there may be some feel-good magic about getting to coach there.
So now we are at best the 3rd option for a guy who said no to us already once before. So why would we waste time there again? And we may actually be the 4th option: he could just prefer to stay at Ole Miss period.
re: What I’m hearing (coaching search)
Posted by metafour on 11/9/25 at 11:30 am to The_SwAUggford
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Hell yeah. Regardless of if I should be or not, I'm attached to these players. And djs post-game speech gave me goosebumps. And I think about what next year would feel like if dj is hired, only a handful of guys transfer out. Ashton's journey. Cam with a full year of a dude who's gonna feed him. A new o-line coach. The monster of a defense we would have. Its real easy to get caught up in those vibes. But doesnt that feel like mf Disneyland.
Everything's not gonna go right.
You are attached to a bunch of "talent" that still hasn't produced even one winning season, and barely any winning football period. The current roster's high-mark is what? Beating A&M in Elko's first season - a game in which we blew a huge lead, and won because of a dropped pass by A&M in overtime (ie: they lost the game, we didn't even win it)?
These takes are wild to me. Even if you lose talent to the portal, who cares? These guys don't even know how to play winning football, and there is zero guarantee that a HC with a career losing record (Durkin) will change that. You can take their NIL money and find similar talent who doesn't know how to win on any number of other teams. I'm sure that FSU and Clemson have players with talent who are losing games just like our guys are.
Most of the talent that you are attached to is off to the NFL after next season anyway, even if they do stay. So lets hire Durkin which will lock him here for ~3 seasons minimum (you can't fire him before that due to optics) so that we can retain guys who will be gone after 2026 anyway??
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I can see the argument for Sumrall as his HC record is solid. But to call Golesh a "consistent winner" is a stretch. His record by year is as follows:
This was USF football before Golesh was hired:
2020: 1-8
2021: 2-10
2022: 1-8
7-6 is a huge improvement in year one on the job, and in year two their starting QB (the guy who is lighting it up this season) only played in 5 games due to injury.
I don't think that Freeze was sandbagging to get a buyout as some sort of master-plan to retire.
One thing that needs to be brought up is that before he was hired here he inked a new extension with Liberty that went till ~2030 and had a total compensation of something like ~$40 million. That is more money than he ultimately "stole" from Auburn.
So if his grand plan was to coast and get fired, he could have just stayed at Liberty and done the same and made even more money in the process.
He was just a bad coach who overestimated his capability and didn't realize that he was now lazy and 10+ years behind the curve of the rest of the league.
One thing that needs to be brought up is that before he was hired here he inked a new extension with Liberty that went till ~2030 and had a total compensation of something like ~$40 million. That is more money than he ultimately "stole" from Auburn.
So if his grand plan was to coast and get fired, he could have just stayed at Liberty and done the same and made even more money in the process.
He was just a bad coach who overestimated his capability and didn't realize that he was now lazy and 10+ years behind the curve of the rest of the league.
re: Screw it, let's just hire Gruden
Posted by metafour on 11/9/25 at 10:20 am to RandySavage
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and he's won a super bowl
He is an offensive HC who won a Super Bowl in year 1 on the job TWENTY THREE YEARS AGO with a team that was already good before he even got there, and fielded one of the most famous defenses in NFL history. His offense was a literal afterthought in the SB season.
Also, that Tampa Bay team got significantly worse under him for two straight seasons after that one SB victory in year 1, and he ultimately only made the playoffs 3 times in 7 seasons there. After winning the SB in year 1.
Jon Gruden is so overrated as a coach its not even funny. His personality is the only thing keeping him relevant at all.
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Durkin had less than a week to evaluate our offense and made the right decision to have Nix be the sole play caller. He also, created an atmosphere that got an offense that was underperforming all season to play to their potential and with passion. In less than a week he got an offense that looked as dreadful as they did against a horrible KY defense, put up 563 yards and 38 points against an Clark Lea (whom many here said was a great coach who should be hired at AU) coached defense. Yet many still want a defensive coach like Sumrall (who got his defense wrecked by UTSA) to be our HC over Durkin…LOL!
Didn't Durkin's defense just get wrecked?
Also - this is an absurdly talented roster. Please don't make it sound like Durkin just split the atom to get them to play better.
Maybe we should hire Derrick Nix as the new HC? :lol:
re: What I’m hearing (coaching search)
Posted by metafour on 11/8/25 at 10:28 pm to The_SwAUggford
Can we please not make a hire based off of a ~1 minute locker room speech and/or press conference?
shite like this is wild to me. To be a winning HC in this league takes a LOT more than sound bites and rah-rah bullshite.
shite like this is wild to me. To be a winning HC in this league takes a LOT more than sound bites and rah-rah bullshite.
re: What I’m hearing (coaching search)
Posted by metafour on 11/8/25 at 10:07 pm to auburn2eugene
Dillingham is better than Lebby. Lebby has made some wildly baffling decisions this season that have lost games.
re: What I’m hearing (coaching search)
Posted by metafour on 11/8/25 at 9:26 pm to Steve Rogers
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Brohm is in a battle at home against Cal
Its probably better if they lose. Gets them out of the playoff race.
re: Let’s talk Durkin as HC
Posted by metafour on 11/8/25 at 8:12 pm to Steve Rogers
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It’s obvious the real focus this past week was our offense and it showed. Vandy is a good football team.
What does this even mean? Are you implying that Durkin was coaching on offense all week?
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Crazy how Durkin having to focus on the head coaching role nuked the defensive edge we had seen.
I have like a dozen posts about exactly this that I can bump from the last week.
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15M? That's light work for our boosters
The fact that he signed the extension in the first place is proof that he isn't leaving. If he wanted to go elsewhere this cycle, why sign the extension and make it harder?
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Same could have been said for Lane Kiffin in 2013. Coaches learn, grow, mature and get better.
Lane Kiffin had to go down several levels to FAU and prove over 3-seasons that he had learned something new after he failed at USC. He didn't just get fired at USC and then handed the Ole Miss job without proper re-vetting of his ability as an actual HC.
Keep in mind that Durkin was already a very good DC before he got the Maryland job. So the fact that he is still a very good DC now doesn't signal anything different than the last time he got hired as a HC. Why should he get to "fail upwards" and get handed an even better job than the one he failed at last time?
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