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re: Toodle
Posted by metafour on 11/7/26 at 7:54 pm to Johnnycrane
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perhaps our QB would feel more comfortable letting go of the ball if our receivers could get open more consistently against elite opponents?
Dude, this is the SEC. Your QB needs to be able to throw receivers open, and let the ball go BEFORE they are actually "open". QB's who are actually good at throwing the ball are elite at anticipating and pulling the trigger to the correct target. They aren't standing there and waiting for a receiver to get open. Most receivers in this league are not going to be able to blow past defenders on a consistent basis.
You can go and see what USF fans said about him. He apparently played this exact same way, even against the lesser competition that he faced there.
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re: Toodle
Posted by metafour on 11/7/26 at 7:00 pm to Johnnycrane
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If Byrum doesn't scramble we lose this game. Even if Tia's the better natural passer it won't matter if he's on his back.
You realize that if Byrum could actually complete passes and run a scripted offense, he wouldn't need to scramble al the time, right? Teams just stack the box against him because no one is afraid of him successfully running an actual passing offense that doesn't involve playing like Johnny Manziel in the pocket.
Yes, when your QB can't make reads and holds the ball forever, and when he misses wide open easy throws, or misses wide open receivers or hesitates to pull the trigger on time on passing lanes that are open, then he MUST be able to play "backyard football" in order to do anything. Duh.
The problem that you are missing is that you can't run an offense successfully against good teams around a QB who's best plays come from breakdowns in the designed play-call. The backyard play worked against Arkansas (95th in the country in Scoring Defense entering today), but you may remember that he tried the same shite against LSU, and he wasn't able to magically slip out of sacks against those superior athletes on LSU's defense.
re: AU vs Arky Game Thread Battle of The Tards Slingblade Edition
Posted by metafour on 11/7/26 at 2:53 pm to Placekicker
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3 things can happen on a pass play, and 2 of them are bad.
Run da bawl
If your QB can't deliver the ball to a wide open receiver from 5-yards out at this point in the season, you have the wrong guy playing QB.
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He went NFL because we moneyballed him.
That is an assumption. If he didn't actually want to go to the NFL, then why didn't he just transfer elsewhere if we were "moneyballing" him? Its not like he couldn't have found a big paycheck at a school like Miami (where he was already committed to at one point in time as a HS recruit), LSU, etc.
The whole "we forced him to go to the NFL" theory makes even less sense when you consider that he got hurt last season with a knee injury. A guy in that situation has even less need to bolt to the NFL, when he can just go elsewhere as a transfer if we in fact were not willing to pay him.
re: Who do we fire to make a statement?
Posted by metafour on 10/26/26 at 1:30 pm to marshallcotiger
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It's hard for me to place too much of the blame on Durkin. We don't have a single difference maker in our DL and lost 2 NFL corners to the portal without sufficient replacements. I know he has his issues on 3rd downs sometimes but i don't think anyone could get this group to play better than they have this season.
He is highly overpaid regardless of what you see this season. He has a ~Top 5 salary nationally. In which season has he produced a defense close to that? Even last season when he had more talent, the results were only "good" not "great". And we really can't say enough about the fact that in almost every game where Freeze's offense was actually doing something, his defense was simultaneously conceding points all over the place.
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But the idea that that’s an easily overcome weakness for any QB is laughable on its face.
Its not, but half the sacks on Brown this season is him just holding the ball and doing nothing with it. Period. That's the problem when you have a QB who has gotten used to playing around broken-play rushing yards. He thinks that he can just scramble around on every pass play, and you simply can't in this league.
He literally makes the OL issues worse. Because with a different QB you could theoretically switch things up and go with a quick-pass offense which significantly reduces the amount of time the OL has to protect for. We have played lots of far less talented teams in the past who got around any DL advantage we may have had by just spamming fast developing short throws.
re: Auburn vs LSU There Can Only Be One Tiger King Edition Game Thread
Posted by metafour on 10/24/26 at 3:21 pm to wareaglepete
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Tua ain’t it or he could beat out B. Brown, who is not that good
The premise of this statement is BS.
There is no QB battle when you bring your multi-year starting 5th year senior from your previous school, and on top of that you pay him $3M to follow you. The idea that there was any chance that they bring him here for that amount of money and he somehow isn't the starting QB is comical. C'mon man, use your brain.
Ti'a may very well suck (which is more likely than him being secretly amazing), but him "not beating out Brown" means nothing. That would imply that there was ever a chance where that would even happen.
Having said that, the "talk" behind the scenes seems to be that nobody really believes that Ti'a is an SEC starting QB. But I do wonder if there are things that he can possibly do which alleviates some offensive flaws. Yes, "on paper" he would seem like a worse option behind a mid to bad OL, but Brown holds the ball so absurdly long that I'm starting to question even this narrative. Can Ti'a get the ball out at least and push it to the WR's, who are clearly the best part of the offense? Brown being more mobile or a better runner doesn't really mean that much if other teams just force him to throw (like today) and he just continues to be unable to process the game quickly enough in the pocket.
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The fact he was still pro Auburn after shows he knows it's his own fault or doesn't blame the coach over why he got kicked.
This is just the way these kids have to behave now that they are paid and there is no more excuse of just being a stupid "student athlete who didn't know better". So that public post really doesn't mean anything other than that he is trying to save his own public and professional image. He signed an NIL contract that would have had behavior clauses in it, and stuff like this looks extra bad to the NFL and other schools now that we are in the NIL era of college football where these players are now professionals.
His Twitter post is really no different from what you see when an athlete in the NFL/MLB/NBA/etc. gets arrested or busted doing something they shouldn't be doing, and then they have to make the canned "apology" statement that goes out to the media/fans. Those statements are all obviously written by their PR/management team, but its what you have to do as part of your punishment.
re: We coulda had Summeral.
Posted by metafour on 10/11/26 at 12:06 pm to beatbammer
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Hell I liked the idea of Drinkwitz but he was widely scorned in this forum.
Not by me.
Drinkwitz literally only gets scorned because he looks and comes off like a nerd, so general fans don't believe in him as a "football coach". In reality, his resume "flaws" are barely different from Kiffin (who everyone dick-rides nonstop as some all-time dream hire). The difference is that Kiffin is a jock, so apparently it doesn't matter when he loses the big game, or drops the yearly game he shouldn't lose.
The perceived knock on Drinkwitz is that he keeps losing to UGA, Bama, Texas, etc. Oh wow, so he beats most of the teams he faces, but loses to the Top 10 opponents that have twice the talent and resources of Missouri.
re: Bye week Coaching
Posted by metafour on 10/11/26 at 10:02 am to bigtrain333
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Minchey was committed to Nebraska and Kentucky came in and outbid them for him. He makes between $2 and $3m this year. The OT makes $2m.
Minchey makes ~$2M. Byrum Brown makes $3M. I didn't claim that Minchey was paid nothing, just that they didn't go out and try to find the most expensive QB on the market. Which obviously gave them more money to spend on the OL.
Stein just spent his money better, period. Kentucky's overall spending isn't massive, so the issue here isn't that Kentucky is "serious" and Auburn isn't. Golesh had the opportunity to do what Stein did, if he wanted to.
re: Bye week Coaching
Posted by metafour on 10/10/26 at 10:30 pm to jvilletiger25
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Kensucky was serious and outbid Auburn for 3 Olinemen in the portal. Those 3 OL would be starting for Auburn, and you’d be talking about what a great hire Drago was right now. Auburn better get serious or continue being left with the leftovers.
Yes, but Stein made a calculated play and saved money by going with Minchey at QB who had never even been a starter prior to this season. He was ND's backup his entire time there. That's part of the reason why Kentucky had money to outbid everyone on the OL. And Stein is clearly a demon with QB's (coached Nix, Gabriel, and Dante Moore at Oregon) so he was able to evaluate and pick the right guy and he didn't need to pay $3M+ to get him.
And that's been the difference between Golesh and Stein. Golesh paid a huge premium to bring his QB with him and didn't even properly evaluate whether he was good enough to warrant the price tag, and subsequently he chose to try to find "value" at OL. Nobody at Auburn told Golesh to plug his USF linemen into the SEC. He obviously had the money to do what Kentucky did, he just made the wrong choice.
re: Bye week Coaching
Posted by metafour on 10/10/26 at 10:11 pm to auburnnyc94
Elite upstart OC/DC from a top program is still the highest-upside HC-hire demographic. But Auburn decision makers are too chicken-shite to make that gamble.
By the way, here is what AI says:
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Yes, the school legally and operationally retains all recruiting boards, evaluation databases, and compiled transfer portal data because these digital assets belong to the university, not the individual coaches.
Ownership of Data
• Institutional Property: Databases, CRM software (like Recruiting-Edge or HUDL/Accelerant), and evaluation notes are paid for and owned by the university's athletic department.
• Contractual Terms: Standard coaching contracts stipulate that all work product, records, and recruit evaluations compiled during employment remain university property upon termination.
• Server Access: Fired coaches and staff lose network access immediately, but data stored on cloud platforms or shared institutional drives stays behind for the administration and incoming staff.
re: What I believe and what I know
Posted by metafour on 10/5/26 at 5:01 pm to MrAUTigers
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The data HE compiled was his. The data he compiled with others was Auburn's. smuph didn't say he took all of the data..........just his.
Why would he have personal data that wasn't already logged into whatever electronic systems Auburn provided him to conduct his work? The nature of his work would require a live database that lots of other people would need immediate access to. Its not like he's writing it all out by hand into a notebook and then "logging" it all into the system/database at year-end, in which case you could argue that he got fired before he "submitted" his work and therefore it was all lost.
If he had any such data that wasn't recorded yet, it likely would have been just small brain-storming stuff that wasn't ready to officially log yet. The idea that his entire transfer portal board somehow wasn't logged into Auburn's systems is nonsensical, and no AD would allow him to work that way.
The more likely scenario here is that Golesh and his operations staff had access to the data, but he isn't going to be interested in copying the last guy's work, especially considering that he has vastly differing opinions on how to allocate money and what his priorities are.
re: What I believe and what I know
Posted by metafour on 10/5/26 at 4:47 pm to MrAUTigers
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That's not how it works.
By that logic........every coach, a school employs, has to leave their playbook when they are fired.
How is that comparable? Redmond was a football operations staff member and part of his job would have been compiling this data on behalf of the Auburn AD. The one thing to point out here is that he wasn't doing this by himself, so its not like this is proprietary data. He would have had subordinates under him assisting in evaluations, on top of actual members of the coaching staff who would have had to have been involved as well (otherwise how does Redmond know that the players that are on his board actually fit the team schematically?). For this reason, I can't see any scenario where the data is deemed to be owned by him alone.
Pretend that Freeze's staff was never fired and they just chose to fire Redmond and replace him with someone else: does he now take all of the data with him, even though everyone who worked with him to compile said data is still employed by Auburn? That doesn't make any sense to me.
This guy isn't a research scientist or inventor. His list of transfer portal targets can't be argued as intellectual property that belongs to him.
As a counter example: when a coaching staff is fired, the school retains ALL of the practice recordings from the prior staff. This practice-tape obviously contains play-designs, game-scripts, etc. that would have been tied to the previous staff's playbook and game-plans, but it is still deemed to be the university's property. I don't see how this would be any different.
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We hired an up and comer, just like FLA did. Difference is, we brought in a whole bunch of G5 coaches and G5 players. Our OC is a no name. Our OL coach is a joke.
But this doesn't explain everything. Oklahoma State did the exact same thing and they are 3-1 and they beat Oregon. They hired North Texas' coach and he brought all of his North Texas players. So far their offense is scoring just like it was at North Texas. So this strategy is currently working elsewhere. Yes, Ok State is in the Big 12 and not the SEC, but its still a big jump up in competition.
Furthermore, over the last two years most of you couldn't stop talking about how Freeze should have brought in the New Mexico State group of offensive coaches + Pavia + the TE from their G5 roster. Vanderbilt did that, and it worked. So you can't pick and choose based off of hindsight when you think its good to bring in G5 players and coaches, and when its not. Last season most of you didn't want to give any credit whatsoever to Clarke Lea for Vandy's success, it was all the New Mexico State coaches on offense and their G5 QB (Pavia). But now we suck because we have a bunch of G5 coaches on offense?
Unfortunately, its all a coin-flip with regards to who will work at this level, and who wont. Auburn has been in a death spiral where nothing seems to be working. Right now, the biggest miss to me is simply Byrum Brown. You can't do anything on offense with a QB who is turning it over ~3 times a game. He has no consistency whatsoever from play to play, and I can't fathom how you call plays around that. The OL is below-average so that obviously doesn't help either, but at the end of the day your supposed difference maker at QB who knows the system has looked bad.
And that has really been Golesh's biggest blunder in hindsight: he should have evaluated better without bias and let Brown go elsewhere based off of the flaws in his game not translating well to the SEC. But the reality is that most offensive coaches are going to stick with their guy who they have had big success with, and now Golesh is in a really bad spot where his guy is making a shite-ton of money and he likely can't fathom the idea of actually trying to see if T'ia can do any better.
re: Kayin Lee was the corner who snatched that interception out of Cam Colemans hands
Posted by metafour on 9/27/26 at 9:49 am to cadillacattack
I was contemplating bumping the "Cam Coleman" thread from late 2025 wherein multiple posters were arguing with me about Coleman's supposed "elite athleticism" and ability that we could not replace.
I told you guys then: his ONLY elite skill is his red-zone jump ball ability. This is an important skill to have, but truly elite WR's dominate in multiple facets of the game. Which Cam Coleman has literally never done in what is now his 3rd season of college ball.
He is not "fast". He is not strong or physically imposing. He is not freakishly tall. He does not run great routes. Cornerbacks are routinely stuck to his hip in coverage. He also seems to give half-arse effort so whatever athleticism he has is also negated by the fact that scrappier defenders will outwork him for the ball.
Has there been a more overrated supposed talent at Auburn in recent memory? This is a guy that most Auburn fans were convinced was a ~Top 3 WR in the entire country based off of ~3 marginally impressive catches over a two season stretch.
And lets not forget that like 3 of Thorne's interceptions were literally perfectly thrown balls that hit Coleman in the hands, which he proceeded to deflect into the air.
I told you guys then: his ONLY elite skill is his red-zone jump ball ability. This is an important skill to have, but truly elite WR's dominate in multiple facets of the game. Which Cam Coleman has literally never done in what is now his 3rd season of college ball.
He is not "fast". He is not strong or physically imposing. He is not freakishly tall. He does not run great routes. Cornerbacks are routinely stuck to his hip in coverage. He also seems to give half-arse effort so whatever athleticism he has is also negated by the fact that scrappier defenders will outwork him for the ball.
Has there been a more overrated supposed talent at Auburn in recent memory? This is a guy that most Auburn fans were convinced was a ~Top 3 WR in the entire country based off of ~3 marginally impressive catches over a two season stretch.
And lets not forget that like 3 of Thorne's interceptions were literally perfectly thrown balls that hit Coleman in the hands, which he proceeded to deflect into the air.
re: Jorts and Natty Light vs Cold Beer, Hot Rock, No Mercy UF vs AU Game Thread
Posted by metafour on 9/20/26 at 3:05 pm to jvilletiger25
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That’s a lot of typing. Kiffin wasn’t coaching old piss in 2015.
Oh, so its a retrospective argument that Auburn should have hired him back when his career was in the dumpster, or coming off his rehab OC stint at Bama?
Why stop there, then? They should have hired Curt Cignetti, lol.
Given what we know now, they should have fired Malzahn earlier and taken Kiffin from Bama. You can play that game indefinitely. At the end of the day the most realistic time to pursue Kiffin came in 2023, and like I explained: it made no sense for him to move laterally from Ole Miss at that point.
re: Jorts and Natty Light vs Cold Beer, Hot Rock, No Mercy UF vs AU Game Thread
Posted by metafour on 9/20/26 at 2:46 pm to Fear The Thumb
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Mario Critstobol
Lane Kiffin
These are both delulu.
Kiffin had Ole Miss playing above Auburn in the SEC West. There was zero reason for him to make that move when he could have stayed where he was at and waited for the NFL, LSU, Bama, etc. to come calling. Which is exactly what happened. Auburn was not a big enough potential upside at that point over what he already had at Ole Miss.
Cristobal had a cake-walk scenario at Oregon (tons of money and resources, playing in the PAC10 with USC down) and literally only left for his alma mater, which itself was only desirable because they got a huge influx of NIL funds. Cristobal had ~10 wins/season on lockdown at Oregon. Why leave that for a down Auburn program in the SEC West where a 10 win season is actually a huge accomplishment at this point? The idea of Cristobal leaving Nike money at Oregon for Yellawood and Auburn is a pipedream.
re: Jorts and Natty Light vs Cold Beer, Hot Rock, No Mercy UF vs AU Game Thread
Posted by metafour on 9/19/26 at 8:55 pm to wartiger2004
Guys, it was imperative that we force DJ Durkin down any prospective HC's throat so that he could keep all of his sick elite players on the roster :lol:
re: Jorts and Natty Light vs Cold Beer, Hot Rock, No Mercy UF vs AU Game Thread
Posted by metafour on 9/19/26 at 8:14 pm to makersmark1
Who remembers Mike G. spending months trying to goad the fanbase into pressuring the admin to hand Durkin the HC job, and then goading them into believing that Durkin HAD to be retained as the DC no matter who the HC was?
That dude knows nothing about football. Literally zero.
That dude knows nothing about football. Literally zero.
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