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re: Looking ahead. Season is not going to happen. So now what?

Posted on 7/8/20 at 5:25 pm to
Posted by TheJones
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 5:25 pm to
Percent positive is increasing along with the increase in # of tests. Mid 7% mid May. Near 10% today. 7 day average of % positive for Alabama is 14%. There were points in March and April where it was 17%.

You can interpret that however you like. You want to see that number decline with an increase in testing, not go up. And that’s what’s happening right now. Hopefully deaths don’t increase with it

As I say this - I see this more of an issue with fans in the stadium versus the games being played. But it’s not looking up for either
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 5:27 pm
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 6:57 pm to
If football isn’t played and we still have all this uncertainty looming into next year I just don’t see how that isn’t the end of the NCAA and big money college athletics.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61581 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:32 pm to
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it's spreading more or there is more testing?? Still to this day I don't know a single person that has or had the virus and I know a lot of people. I've heard rumors of someone's cousin or a friend of friend getting it but no one I know has tested positive.



I think I posted last weekend that my wife works in a very large north Georgia hospital. Their Covid cases has really picked up the past 10-15 days. That is people who are in beds sick, people on vents and people who are either dead or about to die. There are a few that got cut off today. Just a matter of time.

I have not known a lot of people since this started that actually had the virus and was sick from it. Same as you. But as of the last two weeks, I know 5 people who have it and are very sick from it. One of our friends is much better today but had a very tough week last week.

Im not on either side of the whole Virus is fake/ Everybody is going to die. Im just using my judgement based on information that I have from people I trust. I think its a pretty real thing and it could be pretty bad for us all if it got out and stretched its legs.

I dont want college football to be cancelled this year. I just dont think we will see a single snap. There are just too many hurdles.

Posted by ridlejs
Member since Aug 2011
398 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:37 pm to
This is not a political statement, but you’re trying to use data to come to a reasonable conclusion. If the last 4 months have taught us anything it’s that the majority of our decisions are driven by fear, not reason.

With that, I think it is a pipe dream to think we are going to play football. Even if mortality rates are basically 0 among healthy college kids, we are not going to play.

I think this fundamentally changes athletics. Hope I’m wrong and we can get back to traditional Saturdays, but this may have solved the pay to play / NCAA debate in one swoop.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:41 pm to
Ivy league cancelled fall sports. Football ain't happening.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13470 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:42 pm to
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I think we can all agree that a season in less than two months is very unlikely. I dont think there will be a spring season either. I look for 2020 CFB to be cancelled.

Now, with that being said, what does that do to us or for us moving into 2021? Bo Nix should still be here, what about other key players? Positions?



I think you’re right. I think pro football plays with no fans. Players will be allowed to “redshirt” this year without losing any eligibility.
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21521 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:45 pm to
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it's spreading more or there is more testing?? Still to this day I don't know a single person that has or had the virus and I know a lot of people. I've heard rumors of someone's cousin or a friend of friend getting it but no one I know has tested positive.

I had a family friend that passed this month from Covid related respirator & cardiac failure. Other than being 60, he had no health issues. You should feel lucky and grateful that it hasn't had a lasting impact on your family
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33316 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:46 pm to
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you’re trying to use data to come to a reasonable conclusion.


I was trying to explain sampling without veering too off course

But you’re right.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10926 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 8:05 pm to
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But you’re right.
Dang Jones... u getting political too?
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33316 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 8:09 pm to
Getting statistical
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
16557 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 8:52 pm to
Harvard has cancelled student on campus in the fall. Duke says all students must return to campus for fall classes. Most of the European countries are opening schools back up in the fall. Fauci said on Dr. Marc Seigel's podcast today that student should be back in school in the fall. Now will he go on a bigger platform and say the same I have no clue. He and the CDC was saying no mask at first, he and WHO were saying it wasn't airborne, now it's airborne and everyone is required to wear masks. My thing is the little dental type masks everyone is wearing what is it helping except maybe spitting on anyone but if you can smell a fart through a mask you can get this virus through a mask.

At this point I'm still holding out hope but not getting my hopes up.
Posted by kage
ATL
Member since Feb 2010
4068 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 9:39 pm to
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Still to this day I don't know a single person that has or had the virus and I know a lot of people. I've heard rumors of someone's cousin or a friend of friend getting it but no one I know has tested positive.
I had a family friend that passed this month from Covid related respirator & cardiac failure. Other than being 60, he had no health issues. You should feel lucky and grateful that it hasn't had a lasting impact on your family


Family down the street had it and both had to go to the ER at one point. Didn't really affect their kids too much, but they said it "brought them to their knees."

My sister in law, 33 and healthy, had it. Flu on steroids for 2 weeks, breathing issues, bad dry cough, consistent chest pain, etc. Virus and symptoms went away in week 3, then week 4 developed walking pneumonia. 3 months later, she still has consistent breathing issues. Can't run, ride her bike, etc without her chest hurting and breaking out in coughing fits.

I do think once they know much more about it, we're going to find out that it has something to do with blood type or something in that regard. Family friend is a prof at Emory and works at Grady Hospital, said they're starting to do a lot more treatment with anti-coagulents and things that prevent blood clotting in the lungs and other parts of the body that can lead to strokes as they're learning it seems to really attack the blood stream.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91642 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 9:47 pm to
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we're going to find out that it has something to do with blood type
We already know it does, FWIW.
Posted by kage
ATL
Member since Feb 2010
4068 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 9:48 pm to
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He and the CDC was saying no mask at first, he and WHO were saying it wasn't airborne, now it's airborne and everyone is required to wear masks. My thing is the little dental type masks everyone is wearing what is it helping except maybe spitting on anyone but if you can smell a fart through a mask you can get this virus through a mask.


Is a mask fail safe? No, but if two people are in a room wearing a mask, there's a significant reduction in risk than if no one is. It's easy to criticize Fauci and co for retracting earlier statements, but they're learning new things about this every single day and they said masks weren't effective right at the beginning when they thought it was spread through contact. Now they know it's spread more easily via inhalation, so they're saying wear a mask. I don't think it's that difficult to understand how the medical community can change course once they have more information on something.

Also, the smell from farts comes from molecules significantly smaller than these virus molecules, which is why a mask is effective(not 100%, but significantly more so than not wearing one) against this virus.

Explanation here - LINK

Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33316 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 9:59 pm to
For the greater good of this thread, let’s direct this back toward football and the original post

If there’s no season there’s going to be some scholarship adjustments I’d imagine over a few years to accommodate extra players on the roster
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26681 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:10 pm to
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If there’s no season there’s going to be some scholarship adjustments I’d imagine over a few years to accommodate extra players on the roster

Really curious to see how the draft looks if there’s no season. Lawrence, Fields, and the other obvious guys would be obvious choices for both leaving and selecting, but things get really interesting past them.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61581 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:39 am to
What about the schedule? If there is no season and we just cancel it, does that mean the 2020 games are just cancelled or will the schedule be pushed back? It would change the home and away series where we would play the same SEC teams at home next year as we did last year. I would imagine 2020 is just cancelled and we move on like normal

The UNC game would just be cancelled and possibly played at a later date

Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33316 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:17 am to
This could naturally fix amen corner for us
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
4908 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:03 am to
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You want to see that number decline with an increase in testing, not go up.


the more people exposed the greater chance for herd immunity.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
12742 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:31 am to
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This could naturally fix amen corner for us
How?

If we wipe out the 2020 season completely and play 2021 and forward as planned, which means things stay status quo.

If we push the 2020 schedule to 2021, we still get UGA/Bama as home/home or away/away and just move it from home games in odd years to home games in even years.
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