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re: UA back to school plan... Shame the unvaccinated kids

Posted on 7/26/21 at 7:43 am to
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
15866 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 7:43 am to
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I'm going to shame those that choose to not get vaccinated for selfish or ignorant reasons. Frick their feelings.



You aint gonna do shite. There's no vaccine against getting your arse kicked.
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 7:43 am to
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How am I protecting my family, neighbors and community if I am vaccinated and still transmitting the virus?


The CDC says studies show fully vaccinated people are less likely to spread the virus.

Posted by SECFan413
Cookeville,TN
Member since Jan 2009
966 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 7:49 am to
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on’t exactly take issue with them and my wife is among those unvaccinated, but I think we’d be well on our way past this if everyone had chosen to be vaccinated


I am thankful I live in a place where we are and have been for more than a year. I got to teach my class like normal and aside from our public library, everywhere was mask optional. We had cases and deaths, but we maintained common sense and have lived. I feel sorry for those places who have been locked down and still feel scared.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 7:50 am to
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And yes, after a year of being shamed for following and advocating CDC guidelines(just look at a couple of comments in this thread about me wearing 2 masks - something I've never done), I'm going to shame those that choose to not get vaccinated for selfish or ignorant reasons. Frick their feelings.


I bet you won’t
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44369 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 7:52 am to
Posted by rushball
Member since Apr 2021
213 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 8:04 am to
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Good. They need to be shamed.


im glad you took it. trusting gates with your health is like trusting epstein with your kids....good buddies by the way, along with wuhan fauci and the rest. thats why im not surprised a person like you would have no problem with public schools choosing to bully kids over an issue thats none of their damn business.
according to the top virologist (and many others) in the world your odds of eventually dying from ADE (yea you should look that up) are pretty much set in stone now but hey, those were just a few radical opinions that were rightfully silenced by those previously stated above so, who cares right? lets just keep pretending that the data proving the 90% effectiveness on these unapproved dna altering drugs were in fact shown to the public and do in fact justify your support of abuse against our childrens rights.
again, im glad you and the other sheep who share your twisted stance on this took it.








Posted by crimsontater
Trenton GA
Member since Dec 2009
3732 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 8:06 am to
maybe there will be enough unvaccinated that will stay home taking a year off that the enrollment will drop down to around 10k. send half or 2/3's of the employees home or just pay them to sit around and play tiddly winks all day.

why are all these vaccinated people so scared of the unvaccinated? after all, they are vaccinated! either this magic bullet works or it don't! if it don't work, then why on earth would anyone else go get it. so, vaccinated people trust your vaccination, sit down and shut up while the rest of us watch you to see exactly what happens to you with your great vaccine.
Posted by ATLabama
Member since Jan 2013
1602 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:31 am to
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maybe there will be enough unvaccinated that will stay home taking a year


Dropping the University's in-state student population from 30% to 10%....
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
1977 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:36 am to
Cobra, you want a name for those who want the vaccine but were advised to not get it. How about Screwed! Or maybe Shut-ins, or House bound. Since it looks like this thing might never go away, you have to feel a little sympathy for them, right? I see UAB is setting up a separate ward or wing for the "long haulers" We could call them "screwed" too.
If this thing keeps mutating and and damaging people lungs and bodies, maybe we will have separate hospitals for Covid and long haulers.
Last Monday a female doctor (Hospitalist) at Grandview said with the rising spread of the C19 virus, and reopening of schools, and of course children are not vaccinated for the most part and 70 pct of the Alabama population is unvaccinated, and no mask mandates, "So it feels like impending doom, basically." This doctor got the virus before the vaccines, but after she became pregnant, took the vaccines. She said she did a lot of research, and talked to a lot of people before making that decision. Of course, she is getting threats from you know who for giving her professional opinion.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50407 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:43 am to
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Want to push "lockdowns don't work": then cherry pick "Sweden reports zero deaths"


Actually, you could push this by simply comparing Sweden to the rest of the world. Or, at the very least, "lockdowns, masks, and all other public COVID-prevention efforts were no more effective than what Sweden did."

The only way to wrongly look at the information is to make any claim that the Swedes had far worse results and are far worse off than the rest of the world. There is simply no objective way to come to that conclusion.
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 9:52 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50407 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:46 am to
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maybe there will be enough unvaccinated that will stay home taking a year off that the enrollment will drop down to around 10k. send half or 2/3's of the employees home or just pay them to sit around and play tiddly winks all day.


My kid would for sure take a year off. There just isn't good evidence that kids of college-age are better off taking this vaccine as it currently exists. Just like there was never good evidence that they needed to be masking, or social distancing, or literally anything else we've collectively decided was acceptable child abuse over the past year.
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 9:47 am
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11455 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:20 am to
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My child is an incoming freshman to UA. This is ridiculous. Shame the unvaccinated kids... Vaccinated kids can still spread covid.

This isn't like the TB or MMR vaccine, which is required for school. This is strong arming and shaming. It's just wrong.




My kid is a returning sophomore. She's already had COVID last fall. She and her younger sister are scared to get the vaccine. This, despite both her parents being fully vaccinated and both are pharmacists. We left the choice up to them. There's too many unknowns and the facts change almost daily. I don't blame them for being scared. At this point, it seems the only thing we know with a fair amount of confidence is that the vaccine keeps you from dying or being hospitalized from the disease...if it doesn't kill you first from myocarditis or Guillain-Barre syndrome or something else we haven't linked it to yet.

Nobody can even tell me with confidence how long her natural immunity will protect her. I'm waiting for more schools to mandate it. Indiana University already has and a federal judge upheld the mandate in the name of public health. It's sad what big pharma can get away with and with impunity. The opioid epidemic, price increases well beyond inflation, kickbacks in the name of "rebates" to ensure they are the preferred drug on formularies. And here's a fun fact for you: you cannot sue a drug company like J&J over a vaccine. As long as the vaccine was made with safe manufacturing practices, if you have a reaction or a condition develops from a vaccine, tough shite. They are exempt from liability.
Posted by CrimsonCoast
The Coast
Member since Jun 2012
1409 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:53 am to
My son is an incoming freshman and I think this is awesome.

Posted by CrimsonCoast
The Coast
Member since Jun 2012
1409 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 11:02 am to
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I don't really understand why those who have gotten vaccinated take such issue with others not getting vaccinated though.


On a larger healthcare scale, I think that insurance premiums should go up on non-vaccinated people. Just like other high risk demographics. I don't want to have to pay for your stupidity and ignorance.

$200K in the hospital just because you are afraid of a vaccine. You should have to pay that yourself.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 11:16 am to
Should premiums go up on overweight people? Should premiums go up on smokers? Should premiums go up on people who leave their house daily, because, they are putting their lives at risk?
Posted by ATLabama
Member since Jan 2013
1602 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 11:25 am to
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Should premiums go up on overweight people?


Yes.

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Should premiums go up on smokers?

Absolutely.

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Should premiums go up on people who leave their house daily, because, they are putting their lives at risk?

This is hyperbole compared to the other examples. No.

I think insurance companies/government should give significant discounts to people who practice a healthy lifestyle. There should be rebates for gyms and for healthy foods.

The problem with maintain a healthy lifestyle is, a lot of times, it's expensive.
Posted by CrimsonClover
Member since Oct 2020
1063 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 11:28 am to
mRNA vaccines are brand new, and we have no real testing on them. The manufacturers can't be held accountable for any long term effects - in other words, they're not even sure enough about these things to hold themselves accountable. Vaccinated people are still getting COVID - yet we're supposed to ignore all of this, and get the injections anyway.

Yeah, no thanks
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 11:29 am to
Would insurance companies have weekly weigh-ins for everyone, just to make sure they are following protocol? Even healthy people would need to be weighed to make sure they are walking the line.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50407 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 11:36 am to
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I don't blame them for being scared. At this point, it seems the only thing we know with a fair amount of confidence is that the vaccine keeps you from dying or being hospitalized from the disease...if it doesn't kill you first from myocarditis or Guillain-Barre syndrome or something else we haven't linked it to yet.


Apparently amputation is also a possibility, but the CDC can't figure out why. Seems the best explanation they could give this lady is that she had COVID when she got the second Pfizer shot or got COVID shortly after getting the shot and that's all they can come up with as the reason for what happened to her. LINK LINK Happened in February, but apparently it wasn't a big enough deal for the news to be investigating so I just heard about it yesterday.

Coincidentally, that lady and her husband were featured during the North American Mission Board's 2019 Annie Armstrong Easter Offering push.

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And here's a fun fact for you: you cannot sue a drug company like J&J over a vaccine.


J&J wouldn't have released it if you could.
Posted by TheNameIsDalton
Huntsville
Member since Mar 2021
1147 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:41 pm to
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On a larger healthcare scale, I think that insurance premiums should go up on non-vaccinated people. Just like other high risk demographics. I don't want to have to pay for your stupidity and ignorance.

$200K in the hospital just because you are afraid of a vaccine. You should have to pay that yourself.


I totally agree. Why should I have to pay for people that eat processed foods every day, drink and smoke, don't work out, and don't take care of themselves?

People are more worried about wearing a mask or getting a vaccine than just taking care of themselves. If more people did that, death rates and hospitalizations would be even lower than they are now.

But hey they care about us.
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