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Let's rank the starting QBs of the Saban Era...
Posted on 8/1/21 at 11:23 am
Posted on 8/1/21 at 11:23 am
Here they are in chronological order for those who need reminding:
John Parker Wilson (2007-2008)
Greg McElroy (2009-2010)
AJ McCarron (2011-2013)
Blake Sims (2014)
Jacob Coker (2015)
Cooper Bateman (2015)
Blake Barnett (2016)
Jalen Hurts (2016-2017)
Tua Tagovailoa (2018-2019)
Mac Jones (2019-2020)
John Parker Wilson (2007-2008)
Greg McElroy (2009-2010)
AJ McCarron (2011-2013)
Blake Sims (2014)
Jacob Coker (2015)
Cooper Bateman (2015)
Blake Barnett (2016)
Jalen Hurts (2016-2017)
Tua Tagovailoa (2018-2019)
Mac Jones (2019-2020)
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Posted on 8/1/21 at 12:08 pm to RollTide1987
If this was our QB going into this season...
1. Mac Jones - Consistent, low risk, can take over the game himself, and most importantly vs number 2 he can stay healthy.
2. Tua - A healthy Tua is as scary as it gets for opposing teams.
3. AJ McCarron - played in a more modest Alabama offense, but I'd like to see what he could do with the current scheme.
4. Jalen Hurts - Consistently finds ways to win games. Not a consistent passer though.
5. Greg Mac - My favorite memories of him involve him running up field for a block. Or the one legged hobble up the sideline vs Florida.
1. Mac Jones - Consistent, low risk, can take over the game himself, and most importantly vs number 2 he can stay healthy.
2. Tua - A healthy Tua is as scary as it gets for opposing teams.
3. AJ McCarron - played in a more modest Alabama offense, but I'd like to see what he could do with the current scheme.
4. Jalen Hurts - Consistently finds ways to win games. Not a consistent passer though.
5. Greg Mac - My favorite memories of him involve him running up field for a block. Or the one legged hobble up the sideline vs Florida.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 12:26 pm to RollTide1987
See my list below.
It was really hard to put Greg over Hurts & Sims. Athletically, Sims & Hurts are far superior. However, Greg was clutch and we weren't as one dimensional.
1.) Mac
2.) Tua
3.) AJ
4.) Coker
5.) Greg
6.) Hurts
7.) Sims
8.) JPW
Bateman and Barnett don't count.
ETA: One interesting thought....
"Would JPW be a better QB than Hurts and Sims. If he had similar talent?"
I think JPW could have won a national championship on both playoff teams that Hurts/Sims led.
It was really hard to put Greg over Hurts & Sims. Athletically, Sims & Hurts are far superior. However, Greg was clutch and we weren't as one dimensional.
1.) Mac
2.) Tua
3.) AJ
4.) Coker
5.) Greg
6.) Hurts
7.) Sims
8.) JPW
Bateman and Barnett don't count.
ETA: One interesting thought....
"Would JPW be a better QB than Hurts and Sims. If he had similar talent?"
I think JPW could have won a national championship on both playoff teams that Hurts/Sims led.
This post was edited on 8/1/21 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 8/1/21 at 12:26 pm to RollTide1987
1. Tua- without injuries, one of the most talented QBs I've seen
2. McCarron
3. Mac Jones- only ranking him here because I wish we'd have seen more of him, and the fact that even JPW would've looked like an All-American with that receiving corps + running game
4. Jalen Hurts- scored enough points to win games but good god I hated watching him. He loved the scramble like JPW loved the sideline
5. McElroy- bad playcalling hurt him; he was probably better than McElwain made him look
6. Coker- he served his role and didn't 'lose' any games for us
7. Blake Sims- I don't know how it even got this bad for us that we had to play him
8. JPW- terrible, especially when you watch now, but managed to pull himself together just enough to not blow up the entire 2008 season
9. Cooper Bateman- I truly believed him to be 'the guy' at the time. His career was a huge disappointment
10. Blake Barnett- I had absolutely 0 expectations for him
11. (ETA) That one time Marquis Maze threw a pass
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21. Star Jackson
Edit: lots of downvotes with no comments. I'm more than happy to defend this
2. McCarron
3. Mac Jones- only ranking him here because I wish we'd have seen more of him, and the fact that even JPW would've looked like an All-American with that receiving corps + running game
4. Jalen Hurts- scored enough points to win games but good god I hated watching him. He loved the scramble like JPW loved the sideline
5. McElroy- bad playcalling hurt him; he was probably better than McElwain made him look
6. Coker- he served his role and didn't 'lose' any games for us
7. Blake Sims- I don't know how it even got this bad for us that we had to play him
8. JPW- terrible, especially when you watch now, but managed to pull himself together just enough to not blow up the entire 2008 season
9. Cooper Bateman- I truly believed him to be 'the guy' at the time. His career was a huge disappointment
10. Blake Barnett- I had absolutely 0 expectations for him
11. (ETA) That one time Marquis Maze threw a pass
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21. Star Jackson
Edit: lots of downvotes with no comments. I'm more than happy to defend this
This post was edited on 8/2/21 at 6:51 am
Posted on 8/1/21 at 12:29 pm to RollTide1987
Mac Jones (2019-2020)
Tua Tagovailoa (2018-2019)
AJ McCarron (2011-2013)
Jalen Hurts (2016-2017)
Jacob Coker (2015)
Blake Sims (2014)
Greg McElroy (2009-2010)
John Parker Wilson (2007-2008)
Tua Tagovailoa (2018-2019)
AJ McCarron (2011-2013)
Jalen Hurts (2016-2017)
Jacob Coker (2015)
Blake Sims (2014)
Greg McElroy (2009-2010)
John Parker Wilson (2007-2008)
Posted on 8/1/21 at 12:34 pm to RollTide1987
1. McCorkle
2. Tua
3. 2018 Jalen
4. AJ
5. Coker
6. Sims
7. 2016-2017 Jalen
8. McElroy
9. JP-Dubs
10. A WR, DB, or RB who played QB in high school
11. Blake Barnett
12. Pull the most sober frat bro you can find out of the stands and hand him a helmet
13. Cooper Bateman
2. Tua
3. 2018 Jalen
4. AJ
5. Coker
6. Sims
7. 2016-2017 Jalen
8. McElroy
9. JP-Dubs
10. A WR, DB, or RB who played QB in high school
11. Blake Barnett
12. Pull the most sober frat bro you can find out of the stands and hand him a helmet
13. Cooper Bateman
This post was edited on 8/1/21 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 8/1/21 at 12:35 pm to UASports23
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However, Greg was clutch and we weren't as one dimensional.
He threw for 58 yards in the national championship game.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 1:04 pm to TideSaint
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He threw for 58 yards in the national championship game.
That's true but I'd make the argument we didn't need him as much. Both T-Rich & Ingram had over 100 yards. We jumped up 24-6, Colt McCoy was injured and the game plan was to run the clock out and both RBs were avg 5+ yards a carry.
Now, if we couldn't run the ball against Texas. Could Greg have pulled the game out? I'm not sure but he had a good game against Florida and really provided us with a spark on a number of plays. You could make the argument that UF was a better team than Texas that year.
I'm not sure we can compare because I think it's an apple/oranges comparison.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 1:25 pm to RollTide1987
Tua
Jones
McCarron
Hurts
Coker
Sims
Wilson
McElroy
Bateman
Barnett? He only started one game?
Jones
McCarron
Hurts
Coker
Sims
Wilson
McElroy
Bateman
Barnett? He only started one game?
Posted on 8/1/21 at 1:31 pm to UASports23
Greg wasn't a particularly good QB, but he did play that entire game with like 2 or 3 broken ribs and wasn't able to breathe comfortably, much less throw a football.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 1:59 pm to RollTide1987
Mac
McCarron
Tua
Coker
Hurts
McElroy
Sims
Wilson
Everyone keeps saying Tua, but would you really be that confident going into the season with Tua at the helm? That guy could never stay healthy here, and never got it done.
Give me McCarron - solid, virtually mistake-free, injury-free. We can win it all with McCarron
McCarron
Tua
Coker
Hurts
McElroy
Sims
Wilson
Everyone keeps saying Tua, but would you really be that confident going into the season with Tua at the helm? That guy could never stay healthy here, and never got it done.
Give me McCarron - solid, virtually mistake-free, injury-free. We can win it all with McCarron
This post was edited on 8/1/21 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 8/1/21 at 2:12 pm to CrimsonClover
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and never got it done.
You fricking clown
Posted on 8/1/21 at 2:15 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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You fricking clown
Trolls gonna troll.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 2:20 pm to RollTide1987
1.) Mac Jones
2.) AJ McCarron
3.) Tua Tagovailoa
4.) Jacob Coker
5.) Greg McElroy
6.) Blake Sims
7.) John Parker Wilson
8.) Jalen Hurts
2.) AJ McCarron
3.) Tua Tagovailoa
4.) Jacob Coker
5.) Greg McElroy
6.) Blake Sims
7.) John Parker Wilson
8.) Jalen Hurts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 2:48 pm to saban n bear
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1.) Mac Jones
2.) AJ McCarron
3.) Tua Tagovailoa
4.) Jacob Coker
5.) Greg McElroy
6.) Blake Sims
7.) John Parker Wilson
8.) Jalen Hurts
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Mac
McCarron
Tua
Coker
Hurts
McElroy
Sims
Wilson
Everyone keeps saying Tua, but would you really be that confident going into the season with Tua at the helm? That guy could never stay healthy here, and never got it done.
Give me McCarron - solid, virtually mistake-free, injury-free. We can win it all with McCarron
These are some of the dumbest lists I've ever seen. Some of y'all are truly just trolls or completely ignorant. Tua is is no way 3rd, though I can understand the argument for 2nd. And Hurts is in no way #8. He literally won SEC POY his freshman year.
1a) Tua
1b) Mac
3) AJ
4) Jalen
5) McElroy
6) Coker
7a) Blake Sims
7b) JPW
This post was edited on 8/1/21 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 8/1/21 at 3:06 pm to Skybox_rtr
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These are some of the dumbest lists I've ever seen.
Breaking News: no one can have their own opinions anymore.
I don’t care what you think. Hurts couldn’t throw a football, and made elite WRs stand there and watch him snap the ball, stand there for 2 seconds, give up on the play, and run right 98% of the time.
This post was edited on 8/1/21 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 8/1/21 at 3:28 pm to RollTide1987
1. Tua Tagovailoa
2. Mac Jones
3. AJ McCarron
4. Jalen Hurts
5. Jake Coker
6. Blake Sims
7. Greg McElroy
8. John Parker Wilson
2. Mac Jones
3. AJ McCarron
4. Jalen Hurts
5. Jake Coker
6. Blake Sims
7. Greg McElroy
8. John Parker Wilson
Posted on 8/1/21 at 5:17 pm to RollTide1987
1. Mac Jones
All time NCAA completion percentage record holder.
Best Bama QB at reading defenses both pre and post snap.
Diagnosed plays quickly, got the ball out on time, and with surgical precision.
Mac Did not rely on RPO or jet sweep stat padding- no he actually stretched the field like a NFL QB. Threw the most catchable ball, and the best deep ball of the CNS era. Led the Tide to an undefeated season in an historic SEC only regular season. The best pro prospect of the Saban QB's IMO.
2. AJ McCarron
Why AJ ranked so high on my list ? Because winning matters that's why. AJ was Bamas Tebow. He wasn't the best, but he had the most heart. He did exactly what CNS told him to do, and he trusted his team to help him win-
No devastating hero ball mistakes. Dude was a winner- just look at his wife.
3. Tua
Injuries, RPOs, hero ball, and humiliation vs Clemson- not all his fault but still that's what I think of when considering the Tua era... especially the injuries. Never led a team to a title. He did however save the day vs UGA, and Tua and 28 is one of the best moments in college football history. He had as much arm talent as anyone, but IMO lacked the intangibles necessary to be at the top of this list.
How to rank the rest I have no idea.
All time NCAA completion percentage record holder.
Best Bama QB at reading defenses both pre and post snap.
Diagnosed plays quickly, got the ball out on time, and with surgical precision.
Mac Did not rely on RPO or jet sweep stat padding- no he actually stretched the field like a NFL QB. Threw the most catchable ball, and the best deep ball of the CNS era. Led the Tide to an undefeated season in an historic SEC only regular season. The best pro prospect of the Saban QB's IMO.
2. AJ McCarron
Why AJ ranked so high on my list ? Because winning matters that's why. AJ was Bamas Tebow. He wasn't the best, but he had the most heart. He did exactly what CNS told him to do, and he trusted his team to help him win-
No devastating hero ball mistakes. Dude was a winner- just look at his wife.
3. Tua
Injuries, RPOs, hero ball, and humiliation vs Clemson- not all his fault but still that's what I think of when considering the Tua era... especially the injuries. Never led a team to a title. He did however save the day vs UGA, and Tua and 28 is one of the best moments in college football history. He had as much arm talent as anyone, but IMO lacked the intangibles necessary to be at the top of this list.
How to rank the rest I have no idea.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 5:29 pm to Skybox_rtr
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These are some of the dumbest lists I've ever seen
Says the guy that has Tua No. 1 lol
I guess you rank players based on their recruiting ranking rather than what you see on the field.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 5:35 pm to TideSaint
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He threw for 58 yards in the national championship game.
I just re watched this. He had a great year and a great game over Florida. But this was not his game. He took way too many sacks. He looked like a deer in the headlights. I know his ribs had issues and we were being conservative...
He was about as much of a liability as Jay Barker was in 92.
"If Colt hadn't got hurt" it might have been time to go to AJ. We had Julio Jones and I don't remember him catching a significant pass.
This post was edited on 8/1/21 at 5:51 pm
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