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re: Let's rank the starting QBs of the Saban Era...
Posted on 8/3/21 at 8:33 am to BLG
Posted on 8/3/21 at 8:33 am to BLG
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Seems kind of weird trashing an ex player on what I assumed was an innocuous offseason topic
I've always thought debate was the main reason to engage with a message board community.
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Posted on 8/3/21 at 8:39 am to PowHound
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I've always thought debate was the main reason to engage with a message board community.
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Take this sh!t to the poli board, and discuss it with the rest of the crazies until you all stroke out from it. Be sure to reference "them" and "they" and the impending Civil War and the last message you decoded from QAnon using your Little Orphan Annie decoder ring. Or perhaps the battle plan you...
Posted on 8/3/21 at 8:42 am to Pastor Mike
I see a pretty clear difference in this debate and the one you are quoting and why one is supposed to be on the Alabama Sports Message board and one isn't.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 8:43 am to SummerOfGeorge
And I see a pretty clear difference in the level of rhetoric and name calling
Posted on 8/3/21 at 8:43 am to Pastor Mike
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And I see a pretty clear difference in the level of rhetoric and name calling
No disagreement there
Posted on 8/3/21 at 8:45 am to SummerOfGeorge
So the point is - I find it interesting that a guy can be such a lunatic in his dealings with people he disagrees with, and yet he lectures others who disagree with him.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 8:45 am to Pastor Mike
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So the point is - I find it interesting that a guy can be such a lunatic in his dealings with people he disagrees with, and yet he lectures others who disagree with him.
Absolutely reasonable point
Posted on 8/3/21 at 8:53 am to PowHound
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and nobody is tearing him down.
Other than you, the guy implying that he can't read a defense and lacks intangibles.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 8:54 am to Robot Santa
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Other than you, the guy implying that he can't read a defense and lacks intangibles.
To be fair, there was the language barrier to consider
Posted on 8/3/21 at 8:58 am to Pastor Mike
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Take this sh!t to the poli board, and discuss it with the rest of the crazies until you all stroke out from it. Be sure to reference "them" and "they" and the impending Civil War and the last message you decoded from QAnon using your Little Orphan Annie decoder ring. Or perhaps the battle plan you
I stand by those comments. Dont you have a wall to build, a capital to attack, a would be voter to deter, or a tiki torch march to attend somewhere ? Honestly I have no idea what you Qanon types do with your time these days, but carry on.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 9:00 am to Robot Santa
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implying that he can't read a defense and lacks intangibles
It's well known Tua was deciding where to go with the ball pre snap because he couldn't read the field- am I supposed to forget that or not mention it ? Are facts welcome here ?
Posted on 8/3/21 at 9:07 am to PowHound
Do you suppose Saban and Sarkisian made a mistake not starting Mac Jones ahead of Tua in 2019?
Come to think of it, I believe Jones and Tua came in the same class, and evidently the coaches never thought he was better, considering he never started except when Tua was, yet again, injured. For that matter, Jones never replaced Tua when he was injured, till Hurts left for OU. That may indicate that the coaches thought that both Tua and Hurts were better qbs.
Since they are all 3 ex Alabama qbs, I hope they all do well in the NFL.
Come to think of it, I believe Jones and Tua came in the same class, and evidently the coaches never thought he was better, considering he never started except when Tua was, yet again, injured. For that matter, Jones never replaced Tua when he was injured, till Hurts left for OU. That may indicate that the coaches thought that both Tua and Hurts were better qbs.
Since they are all 3 ex Alabama qbs, I hope they all do well in the NFL.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 9:16 am
Posted on 8/3/21 at 9:18 am to BLG
I think the better question would be if you took Mac and Tua and put them on the UA roster this year who do you think would start ?
I thought it was fairly obvious that the offense went to another level with Mac at the helm. More importantly the offense didn't miss a beat vs elite competition.
I thought it was fairly obvious that the offense went to another level with Mac at the helm. More importantly the offense didn't miss a beat vs elite competition.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 9:20 am to PowHound
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I think the better question would be...
No. I asked your opinion.
Do you think Saban and Sarkisian made a mistake starting Tua instead of Jones.
It's a simple question, and you seem pretty opinionated, so surely you have an opinon about that.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:06 am to PowHound
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It's well known Tua was deciding where to go with the ball pre snap because he couldn't read the field- am I supposed to forget that or not mention it ?
I mean, it's pretty much why the Clemson D ate his lunch in the national championship game in 2018.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:21 am to The Spleen
I think Mac > Tua is pretty obvious. The real debate is Tua vs. McCarron.
I'm kinda surprised with how many people are taking the QB that led the team to back-to-back misses on national championships, over the guy that led the team to back-to-back national championships.
In terms of raw arm talent, maybe Tua is the best we've ever had, but as far as who I'd feel most confident with going into the season, I'll take Mac and McCarron.
McCarron was as solid as a rock, and a great team leader.
I'm kinda surprised with how many people are taking the QB that led the team to back-to-back misses on national championships, over the guy that led the team to back-to-back national championships.
In terms of raw arm talent, maybe Tua is the best we've ever had, but as far as who I'd feel most confident with going into the season, I'll take Mac and McCarron.
McCarron was as solid as a rock, and a great team leader.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 10:22 am
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:49 am to CrimsonClover
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I'm kinda surprised with how many people are taking the QB that led the team to back-to-back misses on national championships,
2 things
1-I'm not sure who you're talking about here, but assuming you're talking about Tua, he played in 2 national title games. The team lost one and won the other. There were no back to back misses on national championships.
2- You're a troll.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:05 am to CrimsonClover
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I genuinely hated our offense that season.
You hated our offense resetting basically all the records that season, at that time?
K.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:10 pm to CrimsonClover
I think an argument can be made for all 3 of McCarron, Tua, and Mac being the best of the Saban era. If not for crappy FG kicking and a play that likely never happens again, McCarron likely leads us to 3 national championships.
Tua is easily the one with the most raw talent. Unfortunately his injuries got in the way, but that's part of football. A healthy Tua in 2019 goes toe-to-toe with Burrow, and easily beats Auburn, and who knows what happens in the playoffs.
Mac had the most efficient season of all of them, but those 3 INT's in the Iron Bowl in 2019 loom heavy on his overall record.
For me, it's hard to pick between those 3.
Tua is easily the one with the most raw talent. Unfortunately his injuries got in the way, but that's part of football. A healthy Tua in 2019 goes toe-to-toe with Burrow, and easily beats Auburn, and who knows what happens in the playoffs.
Mac had the most efficient season of all of them, but those 3 INT's in the Iron Bowl in 2019 loom heavy on his overall record.
For me, it's hard to pick between those 3.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:30 pm to CrimsonClover
Don’t forget that AJ had ice water in his veins in that 2011 national championship.
Biggest stage, everybody watching, against an all-time great opponent.... he was fearless. No butterflies and had near perfect execution.
Biggest stage, everybody watching, against an all-time great opponent.... he was fearless. No butterflies and had near perfect execution.
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