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Posted on 5/3/23 at 11:01 am to Section 80
Posted on 5/3/23 at 11:01 am to Section 80
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McElroy made the Jets roster, don't think Coker or Sims made NFL rosters?
I said 09 McElroy. Specifically 09. He was pretty bad that year.
That being said.
I'm not going to bring up the stats, because Greg was part of a much different offense than Sims and Coker.
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While Greg made a roster for a few years, but I really don't think he was a better QB than Coker or Sims. He was a smart guy, and thats why he hung on, he was good to have as a backup because he could help the starter with the gameplan every week. But Coker and Sims were both more physically talented, and better QBs overall at the college level. Sims had a stronger arm, and was much more mobile for example. Coker was underrated by Bama fans. Dude was playing really well the second half of 2015.
I think Coker especially would get drafted higher and given longer to develop in the current league,than he did in 2016, with the success of Josh Allen. As a big guy with a big arm, who is also fairly mobile.
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 11:06 am to Section 80
Coker hurt his knee with the Cardinals and was cut at some point. He told them he was done.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 11:22 am to McGregor
Coker was and is still my favorite Saban quarterback. I’m not saying he was the best by any means. He just had it and was full of grit.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 11:49 am to RescueT
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He just had it and was full of grit.
His hands smashed atoms.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 12:16 pm to narddogg81
I watched every snap of that bowl game the other day. I can see why Rees likes Buchner and what he thinks he could be in that offense. He's tough as nails, is a great runner and can make throws. But you just can't make some of those decisions and you can't miss so many easy throws.
But more so what I took away from watching every snap of that game is how much I loved that offense. Every play has a couple of ghost plays attached to it so the defense has to respect everything. QB run/RB counter/TE or RB slip into the flat off PA........all 3 of those come out of the exact same set and motion. It's like watching the exact opposite of what we've done the last 2 years with BoB.
But more so what I took away from watching every snap of that game is how much I loved that offense. Every play has a couple of ghost plays attached to it so the defense has to respect everything. QB run/RB counter/TE or RB slip into the flat off PA........all 3 of those come out of the exact same set and motion. It's like watching the exact opposite of what we've done the last 2 years with BoB.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 12:55 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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It's like watching the exact opposite of what we've done the last 2 years with BoB.
I know its mostly just Rant dipshits trolling, but I don't know how any sane person could have watched BoB's offense and think that we won't be better off with Rees.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 1:31 pm to Funky Tide 8
One thing I noticed just in the Bama spring game was how Rees calls a game vs Bob in terms of taking advantage of the defense.
BoB comes from the NFL where you can't call plays expecting the defense to make a mistake. In the NFL guys have too much experience and are too disciplined to get out of position very often. That's not the case in college. That's one reason you could be great at calling plays in college and not great in the NFL. On the other hand, you may be decent in the NFL but not great in college. That's BoB.
Tennessee's offense is an example of this. It works in college because guys get out of position (and also the difference in hash marks).
I'm looking forward to see what Rees' offense looks like but the lack of good QB play will hurt.
BoB comes from the NFL where you can't call plays expecting the defense to make a mistake. In the NFL guys have too much experience and are too disciplined to get out of position very often. That's not the case in college. That's one reason you could be great at calling plays in college and not great in the NFL. On the other hand, you may be decent in the NFL but not great in college. That's BoB.
Tennessee's offense is an example of this. It works in college because guys get out of position (and also the difference in hash marks).
I'm looking forward to see what Rees' offense looks like but the lack of good QB play will hurt.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 1:52 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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But more so what I took away from watching every snap of that game is how much I loved that offense.
I mentioned that early on. If you compare ND to Bama in terms of talent, Rees has an almost better player in every single spot. I’m really excited to see what he can do.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 2:14 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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But more so what I took away from watching every snap of that game is how much I loved that offense. Every play has a couple of ghost plays attached to it so the defense has to respect everything. QB run/RB counter/TE or RB slip into the flat off PA........all 3 of those come out of the exact same set and motion.
If that's what he's going to be allowed to run here then I'm all for it.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 2:49 pm to DT55Forever1
I think Rees will be allowed to run whatever he wants as long as he uses Bama terminology.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 4:18 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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But you just can't make some of those decisions and you can't miss so many easy throws
He (or whoever wins the job) will have more talent and protection across the board to take pressure off.
Many times QBs force too much because they feel they have to do so.
I'm excited for a change in philosophy that actually attacks a specific defense to exploit identified mismatches.
Also, very happy with the Steele hire. He'll reinstate accountability and an aggressive, attacking D.
This post was edited on 5/3/23 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 5/3/23 at 4:24 pm to Che Boludo
Posted on 5/3/23 at 6:07 pm to RescueT
Big fan of Coker. I’ll never forget that meltdown of a game vs Ole Miss in 2015. It was a poor choice to go with Bateman but it was for the best. It lit a fire under Jake. He finally got pissed off and stopped playing scared. That game when he was inserted back in he really took control of the offense. The rest is history.
Jake Coker was big, tough and pretty mobile. He had a big arm but very slow wind up. He was what that team needed with Henry and that elite pass rushing defense. Elite defense in general.
Everyone remembers the Aggie defender who he took out but I’ll never forget the Natty vs Clemson. He played poorly first half but in the 2nd half he made gigantic plays. The deep 3rd and long strike to Ardarius Stewart on the sideline and the 3rd down near the goal line he converted with his legs late in the game. Had to dive head first for it.
Jake Coker was big, tough and pretty mobile. He had a big arm but very slow wind up. He was what that team needed with Henry and that elite pass rushing defense. Elite defense in general.
Everyone remembers the Aggie defender who he took out but I’ll never forget the Natty vs Clemson. He played poorly first half but in the 2nd half he made gigantic plays. The deep 3rd and long strike to Ardarius Stewart on the sideline and the 3rd down near the goal line he converted with his legs late in the game. Had to dive head first for it.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:42 pm to RMD
Posted on 5/3/23 at 8:21 pm to RMD
And he sounds like Elvis. Pretty much the perfect QB lol.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:50 am to CrimsonBoz
No matter how you feel (or felt) about the situation, hat’s off to Jimmy Johns for taking ownership and turning his life around. Fifteen years later, this is his graduation weekend from the University. This is an excellent (and very long) write up from the Tuscaloosa News (pay wall). I found it on the Clarion Ledger and it didn’t prompt me to subscribe for those who would like to read it. Chase Goodbread did a nice job - it’s not the type of journalism one sees often these days.
Cheers to Jimmy
Inside Jimmy Johns' 15-year journey to self-forgiveness and a degree from Alabama
For 15 years, Jimmy Johns has been at this grind.
Working and studying. Leading and achieving. Mentoring and fathering, all with the purpose of feeling complete again. All to square this thing with one last holdout who could not forgive.
Sure, there was a practical purpose, also.
There were bills to pay and children to raise, and with a tenacity instilled in him by his late grandfather, Luther Thomas, Johns has been laser-focused on that for more than a decade now. Adulting has always come easy for Johns, and he didn't need a college degree for that. But on Friday, a contingent from Johns' hometown of Brookhaven, Mississippi, will cheer for him at the University of Alabama's commencement ceremony. At 35 years old, he will graduate from UA with a degree in consumer sciences, and there won't be a grad in the house with a greater sense of fulfillment than Jimmy Johns.
Cheers to Jimmy
Inside Jimmy Johns' 15-year journey to self-forgiveness and a degree from Alabama
For 15 years, Jimmy Johns has been at this grind.
Working and studying. Leading and achieving. Mentoring and fathering, all with the purpose of feeling complete again. All to square this thing with one last holdout who could not forgive.
Sure, there was a practical purpose, also.
There were bills to pay and children to raise, and with a tenacity instilled in him by his late grandfather, Luther Thomas, Johns has been laser-focused on that for more than a decade now. Adulting has always come easy for Johns, and he didn't need a college degree for that. But on Friday, a contingent from Johns' hometown of Brookhaven, Mississippi, will cheer for him at the University of Alabama's commencement ceremony. At 35 years old, he will graduate from UA with a degree in consumer sciences, and there won't be a grad in the house with a greater sense of fulfillment than Jimmy Johns.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 8:44 am to Alabama_Fan
Great news story
Posted on 5/4/23 at 9:15 am to Alabama_Fan
I love his sandwiches
Posted on 5/4/23 at 9:17 am to SummerOfGeorge
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It's like watching the exact opposite of what we've done the last 2 years with BoB.
I like BoB more than most on here. But my God I can hardly remember any plays last year where a guy was schemed wide open
Posted on 5/4/23 at 9:42 am to narddogg81
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I love his sandwiches
Too much lettuce and not enough meat
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