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Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:54 pm to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:54 pm to
You're so goddamn angry
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:57 pm to
Just sitting here in stunned amazement at how damn dumb you are.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:59 pm to
Oh, I get it, you are going to play the “I was just trolling you thing.”

Yeah, okay

Damn dude. Reading comprehension. Follow the thread. Meaningfully contribute.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 10:03 pm to
Sir, you are arguing with someone who quite literally said he would lick the butthole of the basketball coach if he made the Sweet 16.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 10:10 pm to
I recognize we have some seriously immature, a-hole fans on Tiger Rant. Anyone that starts off a thread with F*** has the mentality of a twelve year old. They are a damn embarrassment to me. But this idiot matches up with them keystroke for keystroke. Best of luck with him, texag7 and ColoradoAg. They are a stain on your great institution. Still love me some EKG and TbirdSpur2010 though. We will have a great game in three weeks to end the 2019 season. Peace.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 10:27 pm to
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But this idiot matches up with them keystroke for keystroke. Best of luck with him, texag7 and ColoradoAg. They are a stain on your great institution.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 10:31 pm to
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 10:40 pm to
Congrats Roger. You did not read the thread. Argued for six posts about coaching. And then pretended it was all a troll. Solid work. Give yourself another emoticon.

And you say LSU fans are idiots.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 10:42 pm to
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And you say LSU fans are idiots.


Sir, your idiots make our idiots look like Socrates and they are far more numerous.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 10:43 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 10:52 pm to
YOU JUST KEEP RESPONDING

DEAR GOD WHY
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 10:53 pm to
The most encouraging thing for LSU fans has to be that Orgeron is open minded offensively. Because even after Brady moves on there’s no shortage of innovative offensive minds out there and LSU will obviously be able to pay top dollar for the best. This year might not be the new norm offensively but I also don’t think you’re going back to the Miles offense days anytime soon either
Posted by Dotarian
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:07 pm to
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You're on another team's board claiming you would take a guy who went 0-8 in the SEC as a HC over a guy who has won two combined national titles as a play caller and HC, because your dick is hard that you beat your rival for the first time in nearly a decade.


Isn't this a losing argument on both sides? Yes, most LSU fans wanted a "proven winner" after the winningest coach in Tiger history was fired (for just cause). Yes, most fans thought that "proven winner" was either Herman or Jimbo. Yes, most of us got the flaming butt-burn at getting played by Herman and snubbed by Jimbo.

All of that is true, as is the fact that O did NOT fit the ideas of many as someone who would make the program better than the coach we just saw fired.

Does that make you feel better?

Now, that said, what's ALSO true is that our were-rougaroux if a coach has dramatically exceeded the expectations of most, and I freely admit to a certain amount of schadenfreude with how things worked out.

Truth is, when it comes to coaches there are very few "proven winners". Unless you're dealing with a Saban, Meyer or Belichick - level coach it's a crap shoot.

I for one am happy that O completely exceeded my expectations. However, that doesn't mean I don't also smile at NOT emptying the bank for a coach that - thus far - has yet to prove that he's the winner A&M wanted and not the declining talent he appeared to be at the end of his career at FSU.
Posted by Dotarian
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:19 pm to
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The most encouraging thing for LSU fans has to be that Orgeron is open minded offensively.


I couldn't agree more. I work in IT as a systems Architect, and something I had to learn the hard way was that truly successful people know how to get things done instead of just knowing how to do things.

I don't think that's something that can be taught. It has to be learned through hard experience, and one has to be open to embracing that perspective.

I think that Coach O has walked that path and made the change, as shown by his growth from Ole Miss to USC to LSU.

Conversely, for all his success Miles did NOT take that next step, which lead to his demise.

IMO, as long as O keeps that perspective I think LSU fans will be very happy for a long time.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:41 pm to
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:34 am to
This thread is great.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:48 am to
The claim that Jimbo has underachieved is a dishonest narrative. This was always a rebuild and he’s trying to win almost exclusively with three and low four star Sumlin recruits. He won’t even play a QB he recruited until his fourth year here.

Assuming we win 8 with the bowl this year, that’s 17 wins in two years for a team that probably would have won no more than 11-12 with Sumlin over the last two years. Every A&M fan always, since the day he was hired, pointed to 2020 as the earliest at which we’d be competing for double digit wins or anything of significance. And despite that, he was a blown two score 4th quarter lead against Auburn and a bad fumble call against Clemson away from 10-11 wins and a top 10 finish in year 1. That team last year, talent wise, had NO BUSINESS sniffing 10 wins and almost did. Then we lost most of the best players from that team and with a very mediocre team are gonna finish tied for third in the West.

Now I know that most of the “underachievement” posts are trolls, but the fact is none of us claimed or believed he would do more than he has thus far. Other than this years Auburn game none of his losses have been surprising and he has yet to lose any real clunkers. Beating LSU last year was remarkable given the talent and recruiting discrepancy. We had no business playing with a team that talented last year, or Clemson for that matter.
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 12:49 am
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:55 am to
I guess my point is, LSU has such a talent advantage over almost everyone that a truly good coach would almost never lose to anyone but Bama in the SEC. Winning less than 10 games at LSU in any year is, frankly, underachieving relative to their talent and recruiting.

Les Miles was booted for results most programs would kill for (8-10 wins consistently in the SEC) precisely because he was losing games LSU had no business losing. And Les was a significantly better football mind than O is. You think O would be anything other than 1-11 at Kansas? Les did things his way and it didnt maximize LSUs talent, but he’s a much better football coach. Orgeron is the guy who provides the talent and needs someone else to do something with it, and that approach will pay off until he makes a bad assistant hire or bad recruiting decision at QB.
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 1:08 am
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 1:03 am to
It’s just eye roll worthy that a guy their fanbase wanted out so badly earlier this calender year is suddenly the future of college football because he caught a lightening in a bottle transfer QB and hired an offensive assistant who dragged their program kicking and screaming into modern offensive football. More so in a general sense than posts on this board mind you.

Auburn fans did the same thing with a guy who won 4 games at Iowa State, caught a miracle JUCO transfer and playcaller in a bottle and we know how that worked out. No saying O will bomb like Chizik, but the situations are eerily similar. O will likely never flame out because he has too much talent, but I fully expect this to be the high water mark and an 8-9 win season make an appearance in a year or two.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 1:10 am to
The other thing: LSU brass knows this is all true. There’s a reason they are trying to make a secondary offensive assistant one of the highest paid assistants in the entire country. You don’t offer that money to a passing game coordinator if your head coach is the reason you’re winning.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 6:47 am to
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You did not read the thread. Argued for six posts about coaching. And then pretended it was all a troll. Solid work. Give yourself another emoticon.



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