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re: Is it just me?

Posted on 10/19/19 at 5:06 pm to
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 10/19/19 at 5:06 pm to
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Off topic, have you seen the picture of MAJ Tulsi Gabbard on the political talk board?
brb

ETA: Buried too deep. Board is going crazy over her. You got a link to a specific post?
This post was edited on 10/19/19 at 5:10 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 10/19/19 at 5:11 pm to
First Post

The errors I've noticed are:

-No stars on her Iraqi Campaign Medal
-No numerals on her Overseas Service Ribbon (If it's her only award, then I stand corrected as you don't put a numeral on until the 2nd award) - She has 2 combat stripes, indicating at least 12 months' worth of deployment.
-What constitutes numerals for the Reserve Component Overseas Training Ribbon? She's done at least 2-3 Pathways rotations from Hawai'i guaranteed.
This post was edited on 10/19/19 at 5:18 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 10/19/19 at 6:45 pm to
You have much better eyes than me. I cannot get that photo to high res

In her defense, I didn’t know anything about campaign stars for Afghanistan (honestly did not care). Got corrected when I took my photo for the GO board (doh).

I am shocked you even know what the RCOTR is. I hate that ribbon (and have earned it twice for TDY to Germany for exercise support)
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 10/19/19 at 7:42 pm to
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I didn’t know anything about campaign stars for Afghanistan (honestly did not care).


Each star represents a period in the campaign.

For Iraq, I've earned 4, but only wear 2 since 2 were earned in the same deployment and one counted as credit for the GWOT-E. (Anything before the campaign medals were started can retroactively count towards GWOT-E)

March - May 2003: Liberation of Iraq
May 2003 - June 2004: Transition of Iraq
June 2004 - December 2005: Iraqi Governance
December 2005 - January 2007: National Resolution
January 2007 - December 2008: Surge
January 2009 - August 2010: Sovereignity
September 2010 - December 2011: New Dawn

There's only 6 "phases" in the Afghanistan Campaign Medal.
This post was edited on 10/19/19 at 7:43 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 10/19/19 at 8:15 pm to
My brother, you are wound tight
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 10/19/19 at 8:16 pm to
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My brother, you are wound tight


I'm watching A&M/Ole Miss. If LSU were playing as poorly as we are you would be too.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 10/19/19 at 8:27 pm to
I hear ya brother. I have lived this over and over again since 2012
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
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Posted on 10/19/19 at 10:44 pm to
I'm lurking in tRant and so many have seething hate for the blatant favoritism shown to bama by the refs.

That shite right there is what ags have gone through with texas for decades.

But then we get accused of running from them to the SEC.

I bet Auburn or LSU would go to the Big 12 for an easy, injury-free way to the playoffs if they could take it.

It's not running away when you are just tired of the bullshite cheating (perceived or real) that never stops.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:14 am to
Back to the matter at hand. We are trying to simplify a highly complex fanbase. So, I am going to use my own experiences to very poorly try to answer your question;

Bama is the envy of the SEC. Everyone aspires to be them. National championships in 2003 and 2007 seasons left us feeling we were finally poised to consistently compete with them. And then we had our 2011 season. Finally we were in the big time. And 1/9 happened. And we have (in my opinion) been reeling ever since.

I am of the opinion that LSU fans express themselves the way they do for a myriad of reasons (each somewhat individual) but all rooted in the idea that we are a big time program on the cusp of greatness. All frustrated that we cannot seem to get over the hump and searching for answers, none of which are easy.

Honest answer about A&M? You simply are not seen as a player in this process but rather a minor obstacle (again, my opinion). Our focus is on Alabama and overcoming their dominance of the SEC. You are one of those programs that tends to trip us up along the way as we work through the gauntlet of the SEC schedule.

We see Florida and Auburn as our only true competition (outside of Alabama). Playing those two teams we know we are going to suffer injuries. And they give us a picture of how we are going to stack up for the year. In the middle we take on a mirror image of ourselves in Mississippi State. Not a great team, but one built very similar to us.

Take a week off and we get the whole purpose of our season, the team we most desperately want to beat. They are not our rival (we cannot lay claim to them), but we know that we cannot win the SEC West without beating them. Regardless as to the outcome of the Bama game, we know after it we will get the best games from Ole Miss and Arkansas no matter how poor their season has gone. They will want to ruin our season no matter what (as Arkansas nearly did in 2007).

By the time we get to A&M our season has already been decided (and to this point, we are out of the running with a loss to Bama). Nothing personal but A&M is simply an afterthought. The vindictiveness you get from LSU fans towards A&M is a mixture of sour grapes over another disappointing season (again, my personal opinion) and outright trolling/mean spiritedness (e.g. tSECRant gonna be tSECRant).

This is primarily because we have been forced into this faux rivalry (this is how we acted towards Arkansas when we had a faux rivalry with them – the Battle for the Boot). We have to admit that until 2018 our game with A&M was not really competitive. Last year finally made it interesting (in a very bizarre, unusual way). From my perspective I am actually looking forward to the game in Baton Rouge this year. Should have the makings of a good matchup. May even try to make it home for the game.

Take my post for what it is, the opinion of one longtime fan, native of Baton Rouge, non-LSU grad, who grew up in the shadow of Bear Bryant consistently beating LSU. This is from back in the day when Ole Miss and Tulane were considered our main rivals. Yes, I am that old (EKG, TbirdSpur2010 and CGSC Lobotomy are IRL friends so they can attest that I am well-worn but not entirely ugly ).

BLUF - we really want to be competitive with Bama. Everything else is secondary. Lots of obstacles in the way in SEC play. A&M is on the backside of that gauntlet.

Much respect to my Aggie brothers and sisters. Gig 'em

ETA: Damn if I didn’t take a downvote for this post
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 1:38 pm
Posted by EKG
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:39 am to
Ollie nailed it.
We’ve dealt with that stuff since the inception of our college, so I guess we just roll our eyes at it.
When we’d finally had enough (e.g., refs wearing UTex garb), we were accused of running.

As for your comments, Wolfie....
quote:

By the time we get to A&M our season has already been decided (and to this point, we are out of the running with a loss to Bama). Nothing personal but A&M is simply an afterthought. The vindictiveness you get from LSU fans towards A&M is a mixture of sour grapes over another disappointing season (again, my personal opinion) and outright trolling/mean spiritedness

Then why not channel that “mean-spiritedness” into the last week of the season when LSU plays TAMU, rather than making it a 24/7, 365 state of mind ?

Jiminy ... the angry, bizarre, Nazi, gay stuff just isn’t something most folks expect from adults—or from normal functioning college kids.
I blame the mob mentality of that board.
Folks are insecure and looking for cheap laughs.

Thanks for sharing your opinion.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:56 am to
quote:

The vindictiveness you get from LSU fans towards A&M is a mixture of sour grapes over another disappointing season (again, my personal opinion) and outright trolling/mean spiritedness (e.g. tSECRant gonna be tSECRant).


That still doesn't explain the fervent need to act like the shittiest fanbase in college football, one that athletically is inferior to LSU in almost every way.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:35 pm to
Not going to lie, they oftentimes embarrass the living hell out of me with their posts. How some of them justify what they say is beyond me. Being on an “anonymous” sports talk board does not mean you lose your sense of propriety. But you and I are Army officers so we (I believe) live by a different code of conduct.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:44 pm to
I go back to what I said to Lobotomy. It is an over the top anonymity combined with some serious anger issues. Some of them are just being Walter, some of them are just acting out because they can. I always remember who I am and where I came from. Though the two of you know who I am, I work off the premise that I am not anonymous (in the truest sense). I like some good natured ribbing and goofing off but I draw the line at mean-spiritedness. That is not what I am there for. This place is supposed to be stress relief. For the most part it is. I draw the line at the homophobic comments and if someone insults the Corps of Cadets I will go ballistic. I do not understand the Yell Leaders but it is clearly a cherished tradition so I leave it alone.
Posted by EKG
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:57 pm to
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I do not understand the Yell Leaders but it is clearly a cherished tradition so I leave it alone


Believe it or not, it started as a joke. During a bad game in the 30's, a group of juniors and seniors wanted to give their dates something to laugh at so they had 5 freshmen dress up in janitor's outfits and rile up the crowd. Their dates started paying more attention to the freshmen than them so they yanked the freshmen away and took over.

Over the years, it's changed and evolved to the point where it's now an election of two juniors and three seniors. Anyone complaining that there are no female yell leaders simply needs to convince the sorostutes not to vote for the guy they think is the cutest. The Corps does vote as a bloc often, but if a woman was ever selected as a yell leader candidate from the Corps Bloc they would vote for her, but she would lose to whoever the sororities voted for.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:11 pm to
Yeah, someone posted the story behind it. Pretty cool actually. It looks unusual and quirky to an outsider, but your fans love it so I accept it for what it is. I did ask Old Sarge how you position them at Kyle Field to signal the yells and he did not reply (other than invite me to a game - not going to happen anytime soon because I am busier than hell). You and I both know the importance of key terrain and proper positioning of forces. I think he thought I was trying to troll him (may be wrong on that).
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:17 pm to
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I did ask Old Sarge how you position them at Kyle Field to signal the yells


When I was in school, there wasn't necessarily a set standard. From what I remember:

Three are always on the student section (west side). The Head Yell Leader is positioned at the line of scrimmage and moves accordingly. The two other Senior Yell Leaders move about the Former Student Section (east side) and run between half of their endzone and the 50 depending on where the ball is. The two Junior Yell Leaders move about between their half of their endzone and the 50 depending on where the ball is. You often see 2-3 of the Yell Leaders moving constantly. The signal is passed to the first deck and anyone who sees it is expected to "pass it back".
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:27 pm to
Interesting. I think Old Sarge didn’t explain it to me because he did not understand the “tactics” behind it
Posted by EKG
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:23 pm to
I always thought the YLs just positioned themselves every 20 yds or so on the student side.
Then, as the opponent moved towards one end of the field, a junior Yell Leader (or two) moved with them in that direction on the field and/or to the Former Student side of the opposite side of the field.

But it’s a good question. I’ve never thought about it.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:36 pm to
We are Soldiers. We always think about tactics and communications
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