Dotarian

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You do know that being DC is very different from being a HC right?

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This is the truth. Some coaches are just better being coordinators than head coaches.

Spags at KC and Vance Joseph at Denver come to mind as perfect examples. They both had their chances at HC after being successful DC's and screwed the pooch. But when they went back to being coordinators they excelled.

No reason Aranda doesn't fit in that mold as well. But I guess we'll see.

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Write another novel about it.

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So sorry that you started an argument that you quickly lost.

If you're going to say something like you did, at least have the huevos to stand up and defend what you said. Or, run away bitching about people replying to you with actual facts that show you to be a bullshite fountain on full display.

In Louisiana, the appropriate saying is "don't let your alligator mouth overload your jaybird arse".

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Sure sure.

He left knowing he'd never coach the team in another game.

They went further without him than he believed they could go with him.

Humiliating.

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Nice deflection from your original assertion, going from "he left because he didn't think the team could win in the playoffs" to spouting bullshite copium nonsense about what happened after he left.

If you want to be a butthurt crybaby about Lane leaving, then that's okay. There are plenty of LSU fans (myself included) that raved for years about Saban leaving LSU only to show up as head coach of their hated rival.

We understand your pain, even if the situation is completely different.

So, tell me again, why did Lane leave OM before his team started playing in the playoffs? That was your original point, no?

Try to follow the thread and stay on-topic, okay?

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This is the issue that LSU fans can’t seem grasp. The program is bigger than just one coach. If you want the LSU football program to revolve around Lane, then that’s on you. Lane isn’t “owed” the right to continue coaching the team. The program reserves the right to do whats best for the program just like Lane reserves the right to do whats best for him. The pearl clutching by LSU fans is laughable and you idiots wouldn’t want a coach leaving for a rival to hang around your program trying to continue recruiting players to leave.

Imagine Saban leaving LSU for Bama. Are you honestly telling me that you would find it perfectly acceptable to allow him full access to your program and facilities while currently being employed by Bama?

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You're making a reasonable point, but it doesn't apply to the conversation you're inserting yourself into.

The "point" your fellow Reb was trying to make was that Lane left OM in a lurch before the playoffs because "he didn't think they could win".

That's just pure, unadulterated horseshite. He left when he did because the OM admin forced him to decide between signing a contract or leaving early.

So, while you're making a valid point, it has nothing to do with what I was talking about.

And TBH, I don't know how I would feel if another school hired our coach away from us in the same situation. I can, say, however, that many other coaches who were in the same position as Lane last year were allowed to stay and coach their teams for the remainder of the season.

And, not to nitpick, but if Saban decided to leave LSU directly for Bama then he would NOT be a "Bama employee" until he actually left. While at LSU he would still be an LSU employee, just like Lane would have continued to be an OM employee if he'd been allowed to stay and coach through the playoffs.

And in either situation, it would have been entirely reasonable for LSU or OM admin to say that "you can stay, but you have to agree not to poach while you're here for the duration". There could have even been an additional contractual agreement stating that condition (and penalties if broached). But that's not the direction OM's admin chose to take, and his leaving when he did is entirely on them.

And IMO, if anyone's clutching pearls it's OM fans making shite stories up to explain or justify what happened when they really only need to look to their own admin to understand why Lane left when he did.

Whether or not it was the right decision to show him the door to "prevent further damage to the program" is a moot point when your argument is that he left of his own accord because he had no faith in his team.

As I said to your compadre - if you're going to continue this discussion at least stay on topic.

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If he thought he could make a run at Ole Miss he never leaves.

Accept it.

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Now that is a reasonable conclusion.

But it also has absolutely no bearing on the question of whether or not he wanted to stay though the rest of last year and coach his team through the playoffs. And it has absolutely no bearing on why he left when he did.

According to Webster's, that's the definition of "deflection".

If you're going to continue this discussion, at least try to stay on-topic.

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Just ran across a reference to Brian Kelly and the Florida State Job

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So did I, and it looked like this...

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

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Lane left because he didn't think the team could win.

It is just the truth.

He didn't believe he could make it happen, so he left.

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Shenannigans.

He wanted to stay and coach - that's been reported on ad nauseum. It's also been reported that your admin tried to force him to sign a new contract before they'd let him coach HIS team through the playoffs.

And the funny part is that LSU would have let him stay through the end of the playoffs - which, amazingly, most of the coaches that were following him to LSU actually DID do.

It was a ratfrick move by your admin that forced him to leave "his" team. THAT'S the truth, my friend. You can huff all the copium in the world and that fact won't change. You can make him the self-serving villain in your own personal drama to assuage the pain of losing your coach, but it's not Lane's fault that he didn't stay through the playoffs.

And, let me also say that I don't blame OM for doing whatever it could to keep Lane there. But resorting to emotional blackmail to try and keep him when he obviously wanted to pursue the LSU job backfired spectacularly - and now upset fans like yourself have to find ways to justify what happened.

Lane was always going to come to LSU once the decision was made. WHEN he was going to come here was completely decided by the idiot power play your admin tried (and failed to pull off).

Just admit it and move on.

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Lane didn't even believe the team could win in the playoffs.

With him......it wouldn't have.

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Funny, when I looked up "revisionist history" in Webster's this exact quote came up....

I seem to remember that Lane wanted to stay with OM and coach through the playoffs, but it was the OM powers-that-be that tried to strong-arm him into a new contract before forcing him leave early for LSU.

And now the narrative has morphed from "Lane abandoned us when we needed him most" to "Lane never thought his team could win in the playoffs so he bailed on us".

Seems to me that if, as you suggest, he "didn't think his team could win" then why did he want to stay and coach through the rest of the year?

Good for y'all that Pete was able to maintain some momentum after Lane was shown the door with a foot in his arse, but be honest about how that whole situation came about.

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So when we beat all 3 there's no denying we have far and away the most impressive body of work by a 2 loss team and more than most 1 loss teams.

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Assuming we beat Bama on Saturday, we might move ahead of Tejas and the Vols.

The Horns could easily lose at Mizzou this weekend, depending on whether Good Arch or Bad Arch shows up for the game. And Kentucky might go Jason Voorhees on the Vols.

Conservative guess is that we beat Bama, Texas loses to Mizzou and Tenner pulls out a win against Kentucky (which I wouldn't mind at all). That likely puts Texas lower than us for the game next week.