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re: Was Bear Bryant overrated?
Posted on 6/27/19 at 11:09 am to UnderDog68
Posted on 6/27/19 at 11:09 am to UnderDog68
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Before the 1974 season, National Championships were awarded before the bowl games
Not exactly.
Are you telling me the '73 Sugar Bowl between Bama and ND "didn't matter"? Who knew?
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Posted on 6/27/19 at 11:10 am to NoNotMe
This is a first.
Aggy fans now have two reasons to hate this thread.
Aggy fans now have two reasons to hate this thread.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 11:30 am to NoNotMe
Judging coaches from different eras by today's standards really doesn't work. Until the late 70s any team from the South, be it SEC or SWC, started in a hole as far as rankings and who wins the national title.
Did Bear Bryant use the rules in place to stack his teams with talent? Well. Yeah. Of course he did. That is why you hire a head coach, to use everything legal he can to build his team.
Would he be an effective coach today? Well, being willing to adapt on offensive and focusing on a strong defense and good special teams play doesn't seem like a bad formula. Hell, if anything he'd have the edge on Saban who frequently has woeful kickers.
The Bear was the Bear. He was the best for his era of coaching. Saban is Saban. He is the best for this era of coaching.
Did Bear Bryant use the rules in place to stack his teams with talent? Well. Yeah. Of course he did. That is why you hire a head coach, to use everything legal he can to build his team.
Would he be an effective coach today? Well, being willing to adapt on offensive and focusing on a strong defense and good special teams play doesn't seem like a bad formula. Hell, if anything he'd have the edge on Saban who frequently has woeful kickers.
The Bear was the Bear. He was the best for his era of coaching. Saban is Saban. He is the best for this era of coaching.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 11:34 am to Arksulli
The past is always idealized. In his time, Bear was the best coach in the nation. He defined a generation and created the Alabama brand that has led to the success the program has continued to enjoy.
Is he deserving of the God-like mytholy Gumps ascribe to him? No. In context, however, his place in CFB lore is well earned.
Is he deserving of the God-like mytholy Gumps ascribe to him? No. In context, however, his place in CFB lore is well earned.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 11:37 am to WilliamTaylor21
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Bear Bryant: 15-12-2 (.551)
Nick Saban: 14-10 (.583)
Ed Orgeron: 2-1 (.667)
Saban is 9-3 in bowl games at Alabama = 75%
He was only 3&2 at LSU because, even with Nick F'n Saban, LSU isn't as good as Alabama.
note: bowl games do not include playoff final games, where Saban is 2&2 and the only coach to be in the playoffs every single year
edit to laugh about the ridiculous comments, when Saban signed up with Alabama, that he wouldn't do as well as he did at LSU. I knew that was goofy as hell.
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 11:43 am
Posted on 6/27/19 at 11:39 am to chillmonster
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The past is always idealized. In his time, Bear was the best coach in the nation. He defined a generation and created the Alabama brand that has led to the success the program has continued to enjoy.
I mostly agree except that Wallace Wade is mostly responsible, in my opinion, for first establishing the "Alabama brand"
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 6/27/19 at 11:42 am to WilliamTaylor21
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Nick Sabam's bowl record after 7 seasons: 1-3
LSU mediocrity dragging down his legacy. Sad.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 11:53 am to skrayper
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LSU mediocrity dragging down his legacy. Sad.
You know your God King coached 6 seasons at places other than LSU before going to Red Stick, right?
Posted on 6/27/19 at 11:55 am to NocaHomas Teepee
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LSU mediocrity dragging down his legacy. Sad.
You know your God King coached 6 seasons at places other than LSU before going to Red Stick, right?
but he ain't wrong
Posted on 6/27/19 at 12:00 pm to UnderDog68
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Before the 1974 season, National Championships were awarded before the bowl games were played. So...most didn't matter.
That's not true. The AP did it in 65 and switched permanently in 68. And the FWAA always waited until after the bowls.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 12:02 pm to John Milner
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Saban is 9-3 in bowl games at Alabama = 75%
He was only 3&2 at LSU because, even with Nick F'n Saban, LSU isn't as good as Alabama.
note: bowl games do not include playoff final games, where Saban is 2&2 and the only coach to be in the playoffs every single year
edit to laugh about the ridiculous comments, when Saban signed up with Alabama, that he wouldn't do as well as he did at LSU. I knew that was goofy as hell.
*Pshhhh*
Cleanup on aisle 2...
Cleanup on aisle 2.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 12:02 pm to NoNotMe
You funny
Posted on 6/27/19 at 12:04 pm to NoNotMe
Football was different then. There wasn’t such a large gap in competitiveness between the top 5 and the rest of the division like there is now. So, in short, no. The Bear is not overrated.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 12:12 pm to NoNotMe
Had Bear stayed at Aggy, we probably would not have wandered in the wilderness for 30 years, so there's that.
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 6/27/19 at 12:33 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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Ed Orgeron: 2-1 (.667)
never made a bowl at Ole Miss.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 12:38 pm to NoNotMe
He was 24-1 vs State while at Bama.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 12:46 pm to NoNotMe
Jackie Sherrill > Bear Bryant
Posted on 6/27/19 at 12:49 pm to NoNotMe
A State fan calling an actual winning record (15-12) “abysmal” is pretty ironic
Posted on 6/27/19 at 1:21 pm to NoNotMe
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Bear Bryant overrated
Run for yo wife!
Posted on 6/27/19 at 1:28 pm to MizzouTrue
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A State fan
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