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re: Was Bear Bryant overrated?

Posted on 6/27/19 at 5:08 pm to
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 5:08 pm to
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I mostly agree except that Will Wade is mostly responsible, in my opinion, for first establishing the "Alabama brand"



Wallace Wade. Will Wade is a proven NCAA cheat per the FBI.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6467 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 5:30 pm to
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Wallace Wade. Will Wade is a proven NCAA cheat per the FBI.


ha. I should ban myself for that
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64979 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 6:02 pm to
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Bryant coached during a time when there was Bowl alignments and if you lost a game you didn't get a mulligan.


So 1965 and 1978 weren't mulligans in your opinion?
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:11 pm to
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Fat, drunk, and stupid are no way to go through life, son.

Who you calling son grandpa? Go to sleep.
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

Jackie Sherrill > Bear Bryant


In cheating? Maybe, maybe not.

The Bear is the Bear, just like Rockne was the GOAT in his era.

Bryant cheated his arse off, tilted every tale possible.. DGAF, He's a Legend of the game and always will be.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4642 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:48 pm to
Bear almost makes the top 20 of all time.
1. Les Miles
2. Glenn Edward Schembechler
3. Lou Holtz
4. Woody Hayes
5. Ara Parseghian
6. Tom Osborne
7. Lou Tepper
8. Urban Meyer
9. Steve Spurrier
10. Jimmy Johnson
11. Barry Switzer
12. Jim Tressel
14. R.C. Slocum
15. Bret Bielema
16. Ed Orgeron
17. Charlie Weiss
18. Derek Dooley
19. Phil Fulmer
20. Dennis Franchione

Bear and Saban would be in the next tier of coaches. Not bad when you think about how many men have been head coaches in the history of college football.

The difference between Bear/Saban and #1-20 is, #1-20 didn't cheat. That is an important virtue when discussing all time coaches.
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:08 pm to
The junction boys were

And you can put that in your pipe and smoke it
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13361 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:12 pm to
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Nick Sabam's bowl record after 7 seasons: 1-3
No place for logic in Bama fans' worlds.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13361 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:14 pm to
quote:

Will Wade is a proven NCAA cheat per the FBI.
Saban's staff has paid players per NCAA.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:25 pm to
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So 1965 and 1978 weren't mulligans in your opinion?



No, because it did not pit two teams against each other with the winner take all by design. Bama won it in 65 after the #1, #2 and #3 team lost. It wasn't because ABC sold the Bama vs Neb game as the NC Game. In 78, it was the Bowl matchup with Independent Penn St that won the NC. Mulligan's occur when you ignore the rules and get another ball.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:26 pm to
Did Bear ever lose 44-16?
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17264 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 10:19 pm to
He lost two home games at Bryant Denny Stadium.
Florida and Southern Miss.

I was at both.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13009 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:19 am to
Yes. You won’t get many to agree to it because of nostalgia, but the reality was, he was putting in far more effort than most. Football didn’t mean nearly as much to colleges back then because it wasn’t profitable likeit is now.

I do believe he was instrumental in that change though. He showed that it could’ve profitable. He was ahead of his time more so than he was “just a great coach”. I’m not saying he didn’t know how to coach or was bad at it. But if you went back in time and took him in his prime and stuck him on a team today. He wouldn’t be nearly as successful.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22589 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:33 am to
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3. Lou Holtz


quote:

The difference between Bear/Saban and #1-20 is, #1-20 didn't cheat.


I mean you're a fricking idiot from the start. But then I get to this part and

Talk about not knowing shite. I think just about every school Lou Holtz ever coached at faced major violations as a result of his time at that school. And for a variety of reasons ranging from academic, to steroids etc.

I've seen articles that go so far as to mention him among the greatest cheaters of all time.

I think maybe you're just butthurt.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22589 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:37 am to
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Saban's staff has paid players per NCAA.




Talk about being desperate for a story.
Posted by iglass
North Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
2917 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 1:34 am to
quote:

NoNotMe
Was Bear Bryant overrated?


I was gonna say "You've lost your damn mind" but instead, I'll just theorize that you were dropped on your head as a young child. Or yesterday.
Posted by BamaSaint
Mobile, Al
Member since Mar 2013
2957 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 1:51 am to
Mississippi State fan. Lol
Posted by Capstone2017
I love lead paint- PokeyTiger
Member since Dec 2013
2235 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 2:28 am to
No.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 4:35 am to
This thread is dumb and disrespectful.


In no way, shape or form is Bear Bryant overrated.

And this is coming from an AU fan.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4642 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 5:46 am to
Dear 3down10. BAWAHAAAAAAAA, my man, you took this way too serious. This was obviously a dig at Bear and Saban. Lou Tepper should have been your first clue. If you got to Dooley and still thought I was serious maybe football isn't for you. However, I thank you for responding with such fervency. I didn't think it would be that easy to get a bammer riled up.

Still laughing.
This post was edited on 6/28/19 at 6:03 am
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