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re: To our Big 10 posters
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:42 am to BigBro
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:42 am to BigBro
Guys,
This is where the past meets the future. Most of us grew up in a college football world where you literally had to convince sports editors and writers to vote for your team and for bowl chairmen to pick you for bowls. That is why the major off shoot of college football is another sport called - selling your team/conference. I’m one of you. I’m 55 and a southern homer. But I also realize our favorite off shoot sport of arguing is no longer needed or valid because we have a 12 team playoff. And soon a 16 team and then 24 team playoff. It’s guys like us who argue for the sake of arguing. It doesn’t matter because all these teams will play.
Who cares whcih conference is stronger or weaker. Did it help UGA last year when they actually had to play Notre Dame? Did a weak schedule hurt Michigan 2 years ago when they ran over Bama? Or when Ohio State won last year?
You ever notice how no other sport has this incessant arguing? Because the games will be played on the field for all to watch. The Bills beat the Chiefs yesterday and it means nothing because we all know they will play again in a sub arctic game in January where it actually matters.
The past 30 years has ZERO baring on anything. The entire sport has changed with NIL, the portal, and a playoff. All that matters is which teams execute in individual playoff games. Nothing in August, or September, or October mattered. Bama losing to FSU meant nothing. Bama beating UGA meant nothing, Ohio St beating Texas meant nothing,
We are all gonna watch a series of playoff games determine a champion and no words or arguments will do anything to affect the outcome. Once the games are completed the to the winner goes the spoils of smack talking.
This is where the past meets the future. Most of us grew up in a college football world where you literally had to convince sports editors and writers to vote for your team and for bowl chairmen to pick you for bowls. That is why the major off shoot of college football is another sport called - selling your team/conference. I’m one of you. I’m 55 and a southern homer. But I also realize our favorite off shoot sport of arguing is no longer needed or valid because we have a 12 team playoff. And soon a 16 team and then 24 team playoff. It’s guys like us who argue for the sake of arguing. It doesn’t matter because all these teams will play.
Who cares whcih conference is stronger or weaker. Did it help UGA last year when they actually had to play Notre Dame? Did a weak schedule hurt Michigan 2 years ago when they ran over Bama? Or when Ohio State won last year?
You ever notice how no other sport has this incessant arguing? Because the games will be played on the field for all to watch. The Bills beat the Chiefs yesterday and it means nothing because we all know they will play again in a sub arctic game in January where it actually matters.
The past 30 years has ZERO baring on anything. The entire sport has changed with NIL, the portal, and a playoff. All that matters is which teams execute in individual playoff games. Nothing in August, or September, or October mattered. Bama losing to FSU meant nothing. Bama beating UGA meant nothing, Ohio St beating Texas meant nothing,
We are all gonna watch a series of playoff games determine a champion and no words or arguments will do anything to affect the outcome. Once the games are completed the to the winner goes the spoils of smack talking.
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:45 am to Buckeye06
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I don't think that matters for 2025 really much at all. Just because a team wins a national title doesn't make the conference good. Tennessee winning a title in 1998 has nothing to do with them not being very good in 2025. LSU winning in 2019 has nothing to do with them getting run out of their own stadium less than 10 days ago. Auburn winning a title with Cam doesn't mean they are competitive this season.
It does matter to level of commitment of investment from an institution and it's donors to win.
Because so many teams in the SEC have won it all in their lifetimes (8 out of 16) expectations are through the roof and are only going to get worse moving to a 9 game conference schedule. Winning coaches get whacked right and left because they didn't win enough. In the B1G only Ohio State, Michigan and USC fans have those memories and until more teams join their ranks the entire conference, rightly or wrongly, is going to be viewed as secondary to the SEC.
The best thing that could happen to the B1G is for one of the dwarfs like Indiana to win it all.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:57 am to RunningJacket
The Ls still mean something
Alabama isn't undefeated, and if they lose to Oklahoma in two weeks, they'll be hanging on for dear life for a playoff bid
Alabama isn't undefeated, and if they lose to Oklahoma in two weeks, they'll be hanging on for dear life for a playoff bid
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:09 pm to Mizz-SEC
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Because so many teams in the SEC have won it all in their lifetimes (8 out of 16) expectations are through the roof and are only going to get worse moving to a 9 game conference schedule. Winning coaches get whacked right and left because they didn't win enough. In the B1G only Ohio State, Michigan and USC fans have those memories
You could add Washington, Nebraska and Penn State to the list for a lot of us. But again those teams' national championships in the 80s and 90s mean just about as much as Tennessee's or Auburn's last national championships today.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:13 pm to Raoul_Duke
USC is still very much alive for the playoff this year
A win over Oregon would catapult them up the rankings
A win over Oregon would catapult them up the rankings
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:14 pm to BuckI
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If you spent as much time talking football on this board as you do whining
I talk football on this sec forum with sec fans. And you of all posters got alot of gaul talking to ANYONE about whining,
Hey Mods....code 9!!
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:23 pm to RunningJacket
Like hell they don't matter. Try losing several of the games that you say "don't matter". They may not "matter" in the Big10 because you can already accurately predict your record after week three. But that's not the case in the SEC. No one can look at their schedule and confidently start writing in wins. The talent has been spread far enough down the conference, that winning the games you "should win" has become close games. There's no more 55-10 blowouts in the SEC like you'd see just five to ten years ago.
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:25 pm to Darindawg
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Hey Mods....code 9!!
I don’t give a shite about O state and the big ten, but don’t be a whining pussy
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:28 pm to Darindawg
I've never seen you talk football. It's either complaining about the B1G or crying to the mods.
Chicken needs a safe room for soft posters.
Chicken needs a safe room for soft posters.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:41 pm to NWLA_Bama
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in the Big10 because you can already accurately predict your record after week three. But that's not the case in the SEC. No one can look at their schedule and confidently start writing in wins.
You guys constantly make claims like this but how often are teams from the bottom three quarters of the conference actually beating teams in the top quarter? It's probably just as rare as it happens in the big ten. The middle to bottom teams in the sec arent beating the good teams, outside of maybe a couple games per year but it isnt a consistent thing. Its a myth that the bottom half of the sec is competitive with the top teams in the conference.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:43 pm to BuckeyeGoon
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The middle to bottom teams in the sec arent beating the good teams, outside of maybe a couple games per year but it isnt a consistent thing. Its a myth that the bottom half of the sec is competitive with the top teams in the conference.
SEC officiating all but guarantees the upsets will be a thing of the past
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:49 pm to BuckeyeGoon
The teams in the "bottom quarter" are no longer 55-10 wins. We even have some historical "bottom quarter" teams that are no longer there, Vandy says "hi".
These games aren't "in the bag" before the game even starts. Texas barely beat "bottom quarter" Kentucky, Tennessee barely beat "bottom quarter" Miss St. Actually, Miss St should have won the game against Vols and Texas.
Again, several years ago this wasn't the case. The bottom quarter would get hammered by the top to mid tier SEC teams and that's just not happening anymore. These games are competitive well into the second half and sometimes down to the last second on the clock.
These games aren't "in the bag" before the game even starts. Texas barely beat "bottom quarter" Kentucky, Tennessee barely beat "bottom quarter" Miss St. Actually, Miss St should have won the game against Vols and Texas.
Again, several years ago this wasn't the case. The bottom quarter would get hammered by the top to mid tier SEC teams and that's just not happening anymore. These games are competitive well into the second half and sometimes down to the last second on the clock.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:55 pm to Buckeye06
tOSU is awfully good but all it takes is a turnover or 2 to derail a season.
They remind me of Georgia a couple years ago. Definitely a cut above 99% of the country but still beatable.
They remind me of Georgia a couple years ago. Definitely a cut above 99% of the country but still beatable.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:59 pm to BuckI
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If the SEC is so strong, then how come nearly half of the schools are firing their coaches?
Unless I'm forgetting someone when Fickell gets fired the BIG will have the same number of coaches fired as the SEC. Coincidentally, Ohio St will have played all 3, that's 25% of your regular season schedule.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:59 pm to TexasWranglers
Vanderbilt rings a bell, no?
Posted on 11/3/25 at 1:18 pm to Bielema Dat
Are you agreeing with me?
Vandy is a good team this year although the game was pretty out of hand before we subbed our 4th stringers in due to injury and terrible prevent. Credit to Vandy for taking advantage but Texas dominated that game.
Vandy is a good team this year although the game was pretty out of hand before we subbed our 4th stringers in due to injury and terrible prevent. Credit to Vandy for taking advantage but Texas dominated that game.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 1:48 pm to TexasWranglers
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Vandy is a good team this year although the game was pretty out of hand before we subbed our 4th stringers
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:03 pm to NWLA_Bama
Ohio St and Indiana are legit. Ohio St would likely go undefeated in the SEC this year. Indiana might get a loss or two just not being used to having to show up every week. Oregon is more of an SEC higher level team this year. They would have entertaining games almost week in and week out in the SEC. The rest of that league is just an unentertaining shite show. Your "bad" teams in the SEC can entertain you and put up fights which is what the SEC haters will never understand. Its what makes the league great. NIL just has killed the SEC's beast that can make it through the constant gauntlet due to having loads of talent in the 2 and 3 deeps. The Bama's and UGA's no longer get to bludgeon the other SEC teams with depth in the trenches and defense to blow people out constantly. Half the big ten you do not need that depth to kill those teams. They are that bad.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:27 pm to Buckeye06
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Buckeye06
rose colored glasses. I was at the superdome 2007.
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:36 pm to Armymann50
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rose colored glasses. I was at the superdome 2007.
Good for you. That had to be a great game to see. I was there in 2014 when a third string QB beat Alabama. Best game ever
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