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This is the best summation of the current SEC vs LSU situation posted yet.

Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:42 am
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:42 am
This was posted by esteemed internet user Dotarian. He posted it in the middle of a crapdalton thread, so of course it would never have been seen. It deserves its own thread so everyone can see it.

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This is about the natural consequences of paying teenage kids more money than I'll earn in a lifetime and allowing them to act like and pretend to be professionals while claiming the benefits and protections of being amateurs.

And the NCAA & SEC are tired of being handed their asses in court cases and local judges telling the head office what to do.

Consider this: Wright and Harris were well within their rights to seek a roster spot at a school of their choosing after the NCAA lost the 5 for 5 case. They picked LSU (or, if you prefer, selected LSU's winning NIL bid from a pile of others submitted by other schools).

Then the SEC decided to finally grow a pair and act like an actual governing body of a conference - and decided to "enforce" their rules (albeit selectively) and told them that they can't play in the SEC due to "rules" (which even Sankey couldn't clearly identify, describe, or even explain under oath in court).

Legally, they had the right to play. They selected LSU who - at the time - thought they were cleared (legally) to sign them. Then the SEC said NO.

What was LSU to do? If they went back on their offer then they opened themselves up to litigation from those same two students - part of a class that had already decided to fight the college ruling bodies - and had won.

Everything that followed from those events was simply a comedy of errors - bound to happen because amateur sports aren't amateur anymore and everyone everywhere is free to litigate every decision they disagree with (from these students all the way to the current occupant of the Oval Office).

Lane and LSU simply kept all their options open waiting for the situation to play out - regardless of which way it went.

They left two roster spots open for Wright and Harris and let them enroll in school, but didn't actually roster them or play them (in compliance with SEC rules). They also didn't break any of the SEC's ever-changing rules, and Kiffin even bluntly stated that they'll "obey the rules of the SEC" - which they did.

So, no, there isn't some grand conspiracy at hand. It's just the result of the current state of CFB. The only reason the governor and others in government are involved is because LSU football is, like most big SEC schools, part of the culture and fabric of the state. NOT getting involved when the big guns came out on the other side was never an option.

Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:46 am to
Pretty much it.

The SEC is simply doing their utmost to rein in the fricked world of college sports.

LSU is the current target. If the application is consistent, Texas, USCe, Missouri, Ole Miss, and others will be targeted next for rostering pro players.

It is either that or all of you guys finally give up on the distinction of “amateur” and “professional”.

It’s already dead and buried anyway.

The concept of an amateur team with a “salary” of $40 million is hilarious.
This post was edited on 9/9/26 at 8:51 am
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 9:02 am to
When this is all over, the idiots causing this uproar will forget the reason they even went through all this. For now, LSU fans should point and laugh.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 9:38 am to
We are.
Posted by Raoul_Duke
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:12 am to
The two LSU players were farther along in their NFL process than any of the other players. That’s why they were singled out. It wasn’t random. They signed contracts with NFL teams.

Yes, the rules are murky. But the SEC is trying to at least do something about it. The NCAA and congress are too incompetent

The real problem is the weaponization of the legal system in a deliberate attempt to undermine the SEC. Governor Elmer Fudd, Kiffin, Judges, AG, AD and all the other clowns preventing the SEC from being an authoritative institution. Refusing to back down

Enough was enough. We’re using this incident to make sure that the SEC has death penalty power over all 16 schools and none of them can go rogue. LSU won’t be kicked out. But your clown coach and governor will get on their knees and beg before this is over
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:19 am to
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your clown coach and governor will get on their knees and beg before this is over

Idiot
Posted by Dotarian
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:24 am to
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Yes, the rules are murky. But the SEC is trying to at least do something about it. The NCAA and congress are too incompetent


Here', I'll fix this for you:

"The rules are murky, but the SEC fixed the definition of what a "pro" player is after the students forced them to explain their decisions in a La. court - which the commissioner of the SEC failed to do. Miserably".

The rules were, indeed, murky. Lane is Lane, and will always push the boundaries for any advantage. In this case, the rules were so murky that they couldn't be explained, so of COURSE he was going to explore what he could get out of that situation.

But accusing LSU/Kiffin of breaking rules that were only clarified after it became an issue before the court is about as un-American as it gets.
This post was edited on 9/9/26 at 10:25 am
Posted by Dotarian
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:27 am to
Esteemed? Gee whiz, you're making me blush....

Thanks for the shout-out, though. I dish out a good share of smack-talk around these parts, but for this issue I'm trying to stay focused on the actual facts and not the rage-baiting BS coming from Sankey, the SEC, and the giggling AD's at universities with an axe to grind against Lane.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:29 am to
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The two LSU players were farther along in their NFL process than any of the other players. That’s why they were singled out. It wasn’t random. They signed contracts with NFL teams.


One received $25K for being in camp and one received $160 gas money for going to camp. Compare to the hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars college players are now making. This has turned into a clown show due to the NCAA and SEC.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:31 am to
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It is either that or all of you guys finally give up on the distinction of “amateur” and “professional”. It’s already dead and buried anyway. The concept of an amateur team with a “salary” of $40 million is hilarious.


Chambliss and Leavitt are making double what the fricking New Orleans Saints starting qb is making this year.

But they are the ‘amateurs’
This post was edited on 9/9/26 at 10:32 am
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:31 am to
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:33 am to
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But your clown coach and governor will get on their knees and beg before this is over


lol, you don’t know either very well I see.
Posted by Mempho
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:34 am to
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Chambliss and Leavitt are making double what the fricking New Orleans Saints starting qb is making this year.

But they are the ‘amateurs’


Well, that sounds like a Saints problem to me.
Posted by BrohanDavey
The Land Down Under
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:39 am to
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But the SEC is trying to at least do something about it.


The only thing the SEC has done is overreach their legal authority and immediately get knocked down in court. Slapping together arbitrary rulings isn't "strong leadership"—it's an administrator panicking because the old power structure is crumbling.

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We’re using this incident to make sure that the SEC has death penalty power over all 16 schools and none of them can go rogue.


Who the hell is “we”? You are sitting on a message board in your mother’s basement with a bad internet connection typing in grease-stained sweatpants—you aren’t at SEC HQ in Birmingham, you didn’t file any lawsuits, and Sankey doesn't know you exist.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
74190 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:40 am to
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The real problem is the weaponization of the legal system in a deliberate attempt to undermine the SEC.

This isn’t unique to this situation or even college athletics. The legal system has been weaponized in every facet of our country. This specific instance is just another symptom of the litigious nature of our society and the complete lack of respect society has for any authoritative body, whether it be your naighborhood HOA or the Oval Office
Posted by TTOWN RONMON
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:41 am to
To start with they weren't "HANDEDNTHEIR ASSES" in Court Cases, THEY CHOSE to allow the players to be paid LILKE FOOLS because of the Texas AM fiasco with Jimbo. Also, they could have just mandated all Scholarships when signed be a grant in aid where for 4 years you sign your supposed image rights over to the University or you do not get a scholarship, and have to Walk On.

They could have done away with all scholarships, and those Lawsuits would have been dropped in 10 minutes. As for the transfer rules, they could have just placed the burden on the Schools, you allow a Transfer and play them within one year and you are NOT PLYOFF ELIGIBE, CASE CLOSED.

The NCAA is a liberal cesspool, remember when they MANDATED the State of North Carolina rescind their bathroom bill or they could not have NCAA BB Tourney Games? IMHO, they led the school into this BS with BAD ADVICE.

All you are looking at is one side giving in. IMHO, these cases were filed in certain states, for a reason. They also file cases on Saturday so thy can know way judge they are getting.

No more Scholarships and NO MONEY, that will end all this BS, until then I am not watching this CLOWN SHOW.

Posted by kyle87DS
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2013
257 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:45 am to
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Yes, the rules are murky. But the SEC is trying to at least do something about it. The NCAA and congress are too incompetent


I don't disagree with your thoughts. Simultaneously, the SEC has sat on their arse allowing this to happen. Examples being the Alabama basketball player, the judge in Mississippi ruling in favor of Chambliss, among others.

Because of the inconsistent exertion of authority resulting in the SEC trying to overcorrect because they were more publicly called out this time and by people they aren't as fond of (i.e. Kiffin), we're now in this position.

Edit: Sankey and the primary University Presidents leading this charge (Sankey is more of a puppet to the SEC Presidents than Goodell is to the NFL owners) are the reason this situation exists in the first place. Don't blame Kiffin for following the rules you allowed to operate under. NCAA makes a screwy ruling, judge overturn it, SEC follows said ruling. That has been how things have occurred until this.

This post was edited on 9/9/26 at 10:51 am
Posted by gamecockman12
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:48 am to
LSU is getting their asses handed to them right now.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:49 am to
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If they went back on their offer then they opened themselves up to litigation from those same two students


I know this is lost in the shuffle, but I am legitimately curious what these guys were going to major in.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:51 am to
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Well, that sounds like a Saints problem to me.

A pro team gets to pay less for a pro level QB than college teams pay for amatuer level QBs and somehow you seem to think it is a problem for the pro team?

Interesting indeed.
This post was edited on 9/9/26 at 10:56 am
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