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Posted on 8/1/22 at 9:14 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Posted on 8/1/22 at 9:14 am to Harry Rex Vonner
quote:For a coaching scenario I get it. But the portal is basically a tool for tampering and an annual bidding war for best players. Universities aren't remotely accountable
18 year old kids are old enough to die in a war, but they used to be saddled with sitting a year if they transferred. "You dumbasses hired a Chad Morris, then bye, I'm not playing for this dip shite yall just hired, who never played college football and came in talking to us like we are second rate players"
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Posted on 8/1/22 at 9:14 am to sewaneerebel
Would rather get back to six or seven 10-team leagues. Have really enjoyed Usc and Arky too. An maybe can keep it at 12-team leagues. But that’s tricky on geographical games that we need.
Old sec
Old ACC with fsu and Usc
Old big east with psu/nd/wvu added
Old big 10
Old pac 10
Old swc
Old big 8 with some combo of Utah/byu/bsu added.
Old sec
Old ACC with fsu and Usc
Old big east with psu/nd/wvu added
Old big 10
Old pac 10
Old swc
Old big 8 with some combo of Utah/byu/bsu added.
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 9:18 am
Posted on 8/1/22 at 9:27 am to sewaneerebel
I used to watch from the time Gameday started until the last Pac 12 or Hawaii game finished. I just can't make myself care that much anymore. College football is not learning the lessons of NASCAR who fricked up by chasing away their core audience.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 9:51 am to VADawg
quote:I wasn’t as faithful. I dropped off at the end of the first three time zones and would move on to Saturday night stuff before pac 10 night games got started.
I used to watch from the time Gameday started until the last Pac 12 or Hawaii game finished. I just can't make myself care that much anymore. College football is not learning the lessons of NASCAR who fricked up by chasing away their core audience.
But with tv possibly waning to streaming, you’ve got to have fans in the stadiums.
At total re-do of the old conference helps that with local attendees. It’s depressing watching a game with no one in the stadium.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 9:58 am to sewaneerebel
They need to put a limit on how much NIL money a recruit can receive per deal. Like 20k or something. Million dollar deals will give the few blue blood schools a huge advantage over other programs
Posted on 8/1/22 at 10:10 am to sewaneerebel
I just want the inadvertent helmet to helmet automatic ejection rule gone.
A blatant helmet to helmet spear, then ejection is warranted. When two players are running full speed and are juking, jiving, ducking, bracing for contact, then sometimes a helmet to helmet hit is unavoidable.
The targeting penalty is ruining the game just as much.
A blatant helmet to helmet spear, then ejection is warranted. When two players are running full speed and are juking, jiving, ducking, bracing for contact, then sometimes a helmet to helmet hit is unavoidable.
The targeting penalty is ruining the game just as much.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 10:11 am to sewaneerebel
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With apparently no limits so far on NIL and now the ability of any player to use the transfer portal every year without sitting out, I see the college game becoming little more than NFL-Lite.
When you have the best coaches in the business running scared, it might be a good time to stop and re-evaluate the intent. The idea of throwing unlimited funds at teenagers should give one pause and reflect. The NCAA is lost in the wilderness. They don't seem to have a clue on how to regulate greed.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 10:16 am to pankReb
As the players make more, the coaches will want more. When one of these football leagues allows 18 and 19 year olds play college football is over
Posted on 8/1/22 at 10:23 am to ColoradoAg
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the portal is basically a tool for tampering and an annual bidding war for best players. Universities aren't remotely accountable
That's ironic coming from a fan of a school whose boosters are buying high school players.
Until NIL regulations are figured out and enforced, the tranfer portal is the way that the vast majority of schools will compete.
The players that are paid for by boosters at some schools will decide they want more playing time, or don't like their coach, or don't like the program, or whatever. There are a lot of reasons players transfer but the primary reason is playing time. So those programs that couldn't afford the bidding out of high school will round out their roster with these kids.
Seems very fair to me.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 10:24 am to sewaneerebel
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With apparently no limits so far on NIL and now the ability of any player to use the transfer portal every year without sitting out, I see the college game becoming little more than NFL-Lite.
I disagree.
The NFL has contracts and salary caps.
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 10:31 am
Posted on 8/1/22 at 10:31 am to Poker Dough
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When one of these football leagues allows 18 and 19 year olds play college football is over
It will happen, especially if NIL regulation isn't forthcoming soon.
Frankly, a nfl minor league would be a far better option for some kids than going to school. I said some kids. Let's face it, a lot of kids don't get an education at college. They're not there to play math.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 10:32 am to deltaland
Lol NIL isn't the problem, if anything it's shaking up the Alabama-tOSU-Clemson hegemony. The problem is megaconferences, tv deals, and to a lesser extent, the playoffs. The SEC has capitalized on all of these, which is the reason half of y'all's programs aren't in the same boat as Texas Tech or Maryland and actually somewhat relevant. Yeah the turn of the century was a good time, but the SEC is at the bottom of a lot of this and a lot of you would still be in the gutter if it hadn't been for them being the driving force behind it.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 10:33 am to ptclaus98
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ptclaus98
and here's one of the maroons that thinks tennessee can pay as much as texas, usc, and a few other programs can
newsflash hillbilly: they can't
Posted on 8/1/22 at 10:35 am to Poker Dough
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When one of these football leagues allows 18 and 19 year olds play college football is over
When this happens, college football needs to take full advantage and go to a D3 model. The sport will still be immensely popular but the goal would be to purge those who are only using it as a minor league NFL.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 10:36 am to sewaneerebel
Old news. But yes it’s over as we knew it.
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 10:37 am
Posted on 8/1/22 at 10:39 am to sewaneerebel
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The Game I Enjoyed Is Disappearing
With apparently no limits so far on NIL and now the ability of any player to use the transfer portal every year without sitting out, I see the college game becoming little more than NFL-Lite.
I'm not crazy about the mega-conferences idea, either. And then, the NCAA has less and less integrity with every passing year. No such thing as a level-playing field for a long time now.
Yes it is all run by the networks now. Think about it, they have already tried taking fans out of the equation in 2020, and eventually we will be replaced just like the sitcoms with laugh tracks. The NBA bubble was perfect for them. Keeping their costs down and everyone still watching.
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 10:42 am
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:11 am to ColoradoAg
But if you feel this way, don't you suppose others are beginning to feel the same way? Unless there is an audience out there that wants to watch what essentially will become minor league football, streaming purchasers and attendance will wane. I'm just hoping those with the most influence (more likely ESPN than NCAA) will realize this before it's too late.
NIL caught everyone flatfooted (it shouldn't have but it did). No state wants to make its NIL rules more restrictive than another so it's the Wild West out there currently. One could argue (as I think someone already did) that College Football with no market caps and free transferability is heading to a more free market system than the NFL or MLB.
Since I don't think limiting the amount of NIL money an athlete could receive would square with the Supreme Court ruling, the issue would have to be attacked some other way. Perhaps a talent cap could be looked at. Subjectivity would be a problem, but having a cap on 5-star, 4-star and even 3-star players on the roster at any given time could be a solution.
The problem with this of course is how do you determine this? Create an official rating agency? Average the existing rating agencies? Might be unworkable.
NIL caught everyone flatfooted (it shouldn't have but it did). No state wants to make its NIL rules more restrictive than another so it's the Wild West out there currently. One could argue (as I think someone already did) that College Football with no market caps and free transferability is heading to a more free market system than the NFL or MLB.
Since I don't think limiting the amount of NIL money an athlete could receive would square with the Supreme Court ruling, the issue would have to be attacked some other way. Perhaps a talent cap could be looked at. Subjectivity would be a problem, but having a cap on 5-star, 4-star and even 3-star players on the roster at any given time could be a solution.
The problem with this of course is how do you determine this? Create an official rating agency? Average the existing rating agencies? Might be unworkable.
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 11:13 am
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:21 am to sewaneerebel
When we get the NCAA out of the way completely, everything will be great.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:26 am to bigDgator
The perpetual money grab for more and more tv money by schools and conferences are what killed it. Parking, tailgating, concessions, tickets, all went up astronomically and priced out the normal fan.
Now you have teams playing at times they shouldn’t be just because there is a tv slot that needs filling.
I remember one year lsu had zero home games that kicked off after 6:00. That’s absolutely criminal and kills the stadium atmosphere. That kills passion, that kills engagement, and ultimately kills viewers.
Now you have teams playing at times they shouldn’t be just because there is a tv slot that needs filling.
I remember one year lsu had zero home games that kicked off after 6:00. That’s absolutely criminal and kills the stadium atmosphere. That kills passion, that kills engagement, and ultimately kills viewers.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:26 am to CelticTiger
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Since I don't think limiting the amount of NIL money an athlete could receive would square with the Supreme Court ruling, the issue would have to be attacked some other way. Perhaps a talent cap could be looked at. Subjectivity would be a problem, but having a cap on 5-star, 4-star and even 3-star players on the roster at any given time could be a solution.
I would think the first thing the NCAA could do is police universities that are buying recruits. Lets start there.
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