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Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:34 am to Torch
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:34 am to Torch
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Fam, they never had integrity. It was all a charade.
Untrue, 100+ years ago we had the issue with paying players and super conferences and it got to the POTUS and Congress. The NCAA was formed to deal with this and super conferences broke into smaller ones and amateurism returned to college sports.
After WWII Walter Beyers took dictatorial control for the next 3 decades and became an unregulated monopoly that favored the B1G and PAC. Finally the other schools had past the breaking point and Oklahoma and Georgia went to the Supreme Court to break Beyers and the monopoly he created.
My guess is this will reach new breaking point and the President / Congress will step in and an new NCAA will form and the cycle will repeat again.
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Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:12 pm to Cheese Grits
What’s incredible to me is, every single person/fan who supports college football hates the direction it has taken…I don’t think I’ve ever seen a product change when 100% of the support for that product is against it.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:19 pm to CoachDon
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When we get the NCAA out of the way completely, everything will be great.
/sigh
Do you even know what the NCAA is? It's the schools themselves. It's 100% voluntary, and any school can leave at any time.
When you see things like "The NCAA made billions of dollars last year", that's mostly just the amount the schools made in total. They have a hand in basketball money, but then all that money is paid out to the schools themselves, outside some money that is used for the organization.
In short, if they all left the NCAA, they would simply replace it with another institution that is exactly the same thing.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:21 pm to BLG
quote:First of all, can you prove that? Second, although A&M benefits from the system that doesn't mean the system is correct, either.
That's ironic coming from a fan of a school whose boosters are buying high school players.
The system is deeply flawed
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:39 pm to BLG
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and here's one of the maroons that thinks tennessee can pay as much as texas, usc, and a few other programs can
newsflash hillbilly: they can't
They never have been able to. Except for the 90s, Tennessee has made due with whatever we could get. And after the last 20 years why would I gaf that Alabama and Georgia won't dominate recruiting anymore?
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:45 pm to sewaneerebel
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 8/1/22 at 2:33 pm to Rex Feral
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It started dying when the big TV contracts showed up. We’re just starting to smell it now.
And the SEC has been leading the way in CFB's destruction.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 2:48 pm to sewaneerebel
But did you root for this guy?
Posted on 8/1/22 at 3:01 pm to Smokeyone
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If you are over 40 you are no longer the target audience.
If over 40's aren't into it subsequently and taking/exposing their kids a young age then they are lost. These kids aren't going to come around to college football on their own other than the years they are in school.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 3:05 pm to sewaneerebel
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The Game I Enjoyed Is Disappearing
I'm downvoting you and I'll tell you why.
In the short term yes, this shite is messy but as you can plainly see in these early recruiting rankings the haves are above the have nots, as per usual. Nothing is really changing right now. The same programs who were on top before NIL are the same one's on top after NIL.
In the medium and long term though, when this NIL shite becomes more tightly regulated (and it will) , you'll see more parity.
And yes, the NCAA is impotent and worthless. That's why you'll see the "mega conferences" break off and develop their own governing body. A governing body that doesn't pretend elite division I football is anything more than a pipeline to the NFL.
Because NIL will ultimately be strictly regulated, schools like yours will get a bigger slice of the pie. Couple that with the transfer portal and you'll see in the next five years or so the Alabama's and OSU's of the world brought down a peg or two and probably more.
When it's all said and done. NIL rules will be strictly enforced. The transfer portal will keep smaller programs more competitive and we'll finally see and end to these bullshite group of five or division II football games.
All these changes are gonna be fantastic. You'll see.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 3:18 pm to Tridentds
So lets see we have...
Free agency
NIL Contracts/Pay to play
Conferences with zero regard for regionality.
Its gonna suck when the SUPER SEC moves alabama to vegas some day cause we wont build the team a new stadium.
Free agency
NIL Contracts/Pay to play
Conferences with zero regard for regionality.
Its gonna suck when the SUPER SEC moves alabama to vegas some day cause we wont build the team a new stadium.
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 8/1/22 at 3:20 pm to BLG
It will be a better option for the kids but not the sport. AAA exists in Baseball, The NHL, NBA, MLS, NASCAR, and Formula 1 have developmental leagues.
Nobody watches them. Nobody is interested in semi pro ball. That’s empirically undeniable. You uncouple College Football from college and it’s over.
Nobody watches them. Nobody is interested in semi pro ball. That’s empirically undeniable. You uncouple College Football from college and it’s over.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 3:43 pm to Pulpwood Patterson
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It will be a better option for the kids but not the sport. AAA exists in Baseball, The NHL, NBA, MLS, NASCAR, and Formula 1 have developmental leagues.
Nobody watches them. Nobody is interested in semi pro ball. That’s empirically undeniable. You uncouple College Football from college and it’s over.
The MLS does not have a developmental league. It IS the developmental league. Honestly it's more of a retirement league. And NASCAR doesn't have a development league so to speak. A lot of guys in trucks and Busch(idgaf what they're calling it now) are good enough for the big show but just don't have the wallet for it. Same with the rest of motorsport but at least F1 doesn't have lifers in F2 and F3, once you win the title you have to move up in some form.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 3:57 pm to VADawg
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When this happens, college football needs to take full advantage and go to a D3 model. The sport will still be immensely popular but the goal would be to purge those who are only using it as a minor league NFL.
I'd much rather watch college football games played between schools with actual students who want to go to school there playing in the games than the basically minor league we get now
Posted on 8/1/22 at 4:12 pm to jchamil
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I'd much rather watch college football games played between schools with actual students who want to go to school there playing in the games than the basically minor league we get now
Well that is a minority. Over 90 percent of college football fans just watch their team and don't know much about other teams. The amount of people who will start watching Millsaps or Rhodes or Carson Newman is water vapor in the pond of college football fans
Posted on 8/1/22 at 4:16 pm to sewaneerebel
I genuinely fear that 30 years from now, all college football will be is 30 or so teams competing in a single conference/league like the NFL. Everyone else disbanding their football program in favor of sports like baseball and basketball. In 100 years, I’m certain it won’t exist and it’ll be something generations ahead will read about in history textbooks.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 4:23 pm to sewaneerebel
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I'm not crazy about the mega-conferences idea,
Me either. It ruins competition between fans. Ththe cream of the top vs the cream of the top is going to be GONE!
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With apparently no limits so far on NIL and now the ability of any player to use the transfer portal every year without sitting out, I see the college game becoming little more than NFL-Lite.
It's an open bidding war.
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the NCAA has less and less integrity with every passing year. No such thing as a level-playing field for a long time now.
That is all on the NCAA! They failed be be just, honest, and apply the rules equally.
The issue here is the NCAA is never going away and they don't care. That money will STILL be rolling in for them.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 4:28 pm to ptclaus98
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Well that is a minority. Over 90 percent of college football fans just watch their team and don't know much about other teams. The amount of people who will start watching Millsaps or Rhodes or Carson Newman is water vapor in the pond of college football fans
I'm not saying to watch other teams. I'm saying I'd rather watch my teams play but play with students who actually want to go to school there as opposed to the players who use it as a minor league system to the NFL.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 4:35 pm to sewaneerebel
Has there been a thread to discuss the plan Mike Leach proposed? That looks like a good start.
I think the differnce between college football and pro football is the college game is about the school and the pro game is about the players.
NIL will make the college game about the players. Not a good turn of events.
I think the differnce between college football and pro football is the college game is about the school and the pro game is about the players.
NIL will make the college game about the players. Not a good turn of events.
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 8/1/22 at 5:06 pm to 3down10
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In short, if they all left the NCAA, they would simply replace it with another institution that is exactly the same thing.
That's fine with me. Sharing may be caring but not in this day of playoff football. Power 5 teams need their own bylaws. It's coming.
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