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re: Source - Cochran felt outside sources kept him from going to Ole Miss; sick of Saban
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:34 am to TT9
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:34 am to TT9
quote:And the dumbass commercials to "Get your flu shot yeah yeah yeah yeah!"
Just glad we don't have to hear that yeah, yeah yeah shite anymore.
Listen, Cochran did a great job at Alabama we all recognize that and appreciate his time for over a dozen years with the program. I can easily see Coach Saban not giving him and on-the-field job with special teams because he has no experience and has never recruited off campus. Cochran wanted a change, Coach Saban advised him to learn the ST job and Cochran thought he already had enough knowledge to do the job. A parting of ways was likely best for both men.
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:35 am to Bamadiver
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I greatly appreciate what he built for Bama in S&C
Too bad Sabah clearly doesn't.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:39 am to AHM21
Sounds like it was time for a mutual parting of ways
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:43 am to SonzofSaban
quote:Coach Saban does appreciate Cochran's time at Bama. He just didn't want a green horn coordinating his special teams and a rookie on the recruiting trail.
Too bad Sabah clearly doesn't.
Cochran wanted a change and after canvassing a couple of programs and getting denied, he finally found an old friend that would bring him on staff.
Coach Saban got a couple of new S&C guys that will be instrumental in the evolution of the new sports science facilities that are currently under construction. And Scott Cochran got the coordinator position he wanted.
I fail to see why this topic has been run to the limit all over a long time S&C coach turned ST Coordinator?
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:43 am to AHM21
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After the Ole Miss discussions became public, Saban called Cochran in for a meeting and asked whether he really wanted to make the switch to an on-field job. When Cochran said he did, Saban told him he wouldn’t be comfortable hiring him as an on-field assistant at that point in time, according to sources with knowledge of the situation. The advice from Saban was that if Cochran wanted to become a special teams coach, he should start attending Alabama’s special teams meetings and invest time into learning the intricacies of the position. Cochran left the conversation upset and convinced he wouldn’t be getting an on-field opportunity at Alabama given he believed he had already spent a lot of time around special teams.
This paragraph puts Cochran in a REALLY bad light.
Hell, I work in IT and I've been in IT for decades. That doesn't mean my boss is obligated to give me a job writing code when I've been doing network engineering and server administration my entire life. He would, understandably, insist that I learn how to do it first. From people who know how.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:45 am to Ted2010
quote:Everyone needed to evolve. Cochran to chase his HC dream, Coach Saban to staff the new sports science complex with S&C men that are high tech and have a willingness to break out new techniques and ideas on the science of S&C.
Sounds like it was time for a mutual parting of ways
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:47 am to Riseupfromtherubble
Nope. I follow a CFB account that retweeted the video. Then I looked at the original and looked at the comments. You not familiar with the platform?
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:51 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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The advice from Saban was that if Cochran wanted to become a special teams coach, he should start attending Alabama’s special teams meetings and invest time into learning the intricacies of the position. Cochran left the conversation upset and convinced he wouldn’t be getting an on-field opportunity at Alabama given he believed he had already spent a lot of time around special teams.
Will be interesting to see how Kirby helps/covers up Cochran's coaching deficiencies until he gets somewhat caught up. Not that their special teams will be terrible, but he's obviously going to need some help coaching that unit the first few games Im guessing
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:52 am to diddlydawg7
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Cochran wanted to coach on the field. Georgia needed a ST Coordinator. Kirby hired Cochran. It's really not a big deal.
Georgia's special teams better be decent this year. If they aren't, the uproar from the UGA fanbase about hiring a guy as a special teams coordinator who has no experience will be deafening. I'm sure Kirby is hoping this experiment works out.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:52 am to WilliamTaylor21
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WilliamTaylor21
Could you please just give it a rest. You're trolling every single Bama thread is stale. Get a life and quit shitting in every single thread.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:56 am to AHM21
quote:hmm, wonder what happened here? Loud weightlifting coach vs special teams coordinator of the year?
Other sources close to the situation strongly dispute that and have indicated that Kiffin simply opted to go in a different direction and instead hired Houston’s Blake Gideon, who was Football Scoop’s 2019 special teams coordinator of the year. There were discussions between Cochran and Ole Miss, but no official offer was ever extended, according to those sources.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 8:56 am to AHM21
quote:it doesn't say that. And, I highly doubt CLK wouldn't take him because it would make CNS mad... lane loves poking the bear.
Alabama stopped him from getting an on-field job
It said outside sources. In my tenure working for the UM administration, I can attest that it would be hard to find another SEC school so subservient across all aspects to its boosters and elite/influential alumni.
Anyone of them could have affected the hire with greater influence than CNS. But, I bet it is more likely that Lane simply opted for another coach for the very same reasons CNS opted out.
Cochran was a big part of Bama success, and he has certainly paid his dues. I do not imagine Saban is pleasant to work for giving his unyielding pursuit of perfection in all things. But, he had a path to an on-field job laid out to him. He just didn't want to do what was asked to earn the job, according to my narrow view based solely on a third party account of the ordeal.
Wish him the best at UGA. Greatly appreciate all he did. Hate hearing he parted on bad terms.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:00 am to 14&Counting
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Could you please just give it a rest. You're trolling every single Bama thread is stale. Get a life and quit shitting in every single thread.
It's hard to believe he was a better troll when LSU lost 29-0 to Alabama compared to a year when LSU beat Alabama, went 15-0 and won a national title.
Now it's predictable and LSU fan is about the only one who jerks him off and tells him what an "elite" troll he is. The problem is that he believes them instead of realizing what a stale and unoriginal troll it has become.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:02 am to Che Boludo
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it doesn't say that
It didn't have to. You think there were outside sources in Oxford that prevented Kiffin from hiring whoever he wanted, especially a guy like Cochran that helps Ole Miss and hurts Saban/Alabama?
Kiffin went in a different direction and instead of it being that simple it is spun into "someone didn't want Cochran to go to Ole Miss."
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 9:04 am
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:02 am to AHM21
I’m all for a guy advancing and it seemed like a fair article. I just think Scott thinking he doesn’t have anything to learn about ST is interesting. Maybe he has learned the nuances of the role in his time as SC coach?
My nephew is working his way through the ranks in college coaching now and it’s a tough business. I have nothing negative to say here other than Scott is a little douchey but he had a successful run at Bama.
My nephew is working his way through the ranks in college coaching now and it’s a tough business. I have nothing negative to say here other than Scott is a little douchey but he had a successful run at Bama.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:03 am to RT1941
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Everyone needed to evolve. Cochran to chase his HC dream, Coach Saban to staff the new sports science complex with S&C men that are high tech and have a willingness to break out new techniques and ideas on the science of S&C.
Yep. Probably better for all involved
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:04 am to MrBiriwa
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Will be interesting to see how Kirby helps/covers up Cochran's coaching deficiencies until he gets somewhat caught up. Not that their special teams will be terrible, but he's obviously going to need some help coaching that unit the first few games Im guessing
He'll be fine; he has Matt Luke there to help him out.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:07 am to narddogg81
quote:I'd think that was an easy choice for Lane.
hmm, wonder what happened here? Loud weightlifting coach vs special teams coordinator of the year?
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:10 am to AHM21
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You think there were outside sources in Oxford that prevented Kiffin from hiring whoever he wanted,
As I said, yes. They have a very meddling and entitled group of donors. If you believe that narrative, which I do not, it is more likely to have been one of them than Saban affecting a hire.
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Kiffin went in a different direction and instead of it being that simple it is spun into "someone didn't want Cochran to go to Ole Miss."
Again, agreed, a more qualified person was available and got the job. ClK, like CNS, thought he was underqualified for an on-field position at the moment.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 9:15 am
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:13 am to AHM21
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