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re: Predict Mississippi State's Record
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:42 am to Farmer1906
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:42 am to Farmer1906
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Posted on 5/22/18 at 11:45 am to KSGamecock
I see them at 7-5 this year.
I think the biggest question mark surrounds Fitzgerald. Moorehead had offensive success at Penn State, but we know for a fact that Mullen works well with QB's like Fitzgerlad. Mullen thrived in taking big bodied, under the radar, dual threat QB's, and turning them into All SEC Players. I don't know if it is safe to assume Fitzgerald will have the same success under Moorhead, coming off an injury.
Plus most of Miss States damage was done on the ground last year. They ran the ball like 65% of the time, and relied heavily on Fitzgerald running. He is average passing the ball in my opinion, but had no receivers to help him. They had a ridiculous number of drops in the Auburn game last year. I don't know if that will change this year. The formula to beat them was pretty simple; contain Fitzgerald from running and make him pass.
Defense should be solid, but it will really depend on how easy the transition is for the current players from Grantham to Shoop. Sometimes there is a big learning curve when switching DC's and certain guys just don't mesh as well in a different scheme.
Even if everything does go smoothly for Moorehead in his first year, it is going to be tough for MSU to consistently compete with LSU, Auburn, and Alabama. 27th in recruiting and 9th in the SEC is a big uphill battle.
I think the biggest question mark surrounds Fitzgerald. Moorehead had offensive success at Penn State, but we know for a fact that Mullen works well with QB's like Fitzgerlad. Mullen thrived in taking big bodied, under the radar, dual threat QB's, and turning them into All SEC Players. I don't know if it is safe to assume Fitzgerald will have the same success under Moorhead, coming off an injury.
Plus most of Miss States damage was done on the ground last year. They ran the ball like 65% of the time, and relied heavily on Fitzgerald running. He is average passing the ball in my opinion, but had no receivers to help him. They had a ridiculous number of drops in the Auburn game last year. I don't know if that will change this year. The formula to beat them was pretty simple; contain Fitzgerald from running and make him pass.
Defense should be solid, but it will really depend on how easy the transition is for the current players from Grantham to Shoop. Sometimes there is a big learning curve when switching DC's and certain guys just don't mesh as well in a different scheme.
Even if everything does go smoothly for Moorehead in his first year, it is going to be tough for MSU to consistently compete with LSU, Auburn, and Alabama. 27th in recruiting and 9th in the SEC is a big uphill battle.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 12:24 pm to KSGamecock
10 wins common depending on the bowl opponent.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 12:35 pm to TailbackU
11-1 if we cant beat Bama
Fitz practiced this Spring with no contact- he'll be fine in Sept
1,000 yard RB returns and an outstanding back-up
8 of top 9 OL players return
3/4 TE's return
Added talent at WR including the #1 WR in juco
Best DL in the SEC with 2 All-SEC players and a juco AA added at DE
Good at LB including a Fresh-All SEC player
Really good at Safety including the SEC interception leader
Experience at CB
Fitz practiced this Spring with no contact- he'll be fine in Sept
1,000 yard RB returns and an outstanding back-up
8 of top 9 OL players return
3/4 TE's return
Added talent at WR including the #1 WR in juco
Best DL in the SEC with 2 All-SEC players and a juco AA added at DE
Good at LB including a Fresh-All SEC player
Really good at Safety including the SEC interception leader
Experience at CB
Posted on 5/22/18 at 12:44 pm to Rayburn8
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Regardless at the end of the day, MSU returns 19 starters on a 9-win football team. Even with a coaching change that is a lot of experience and talent.
Look man, don't take this as a slam, because it's not. But the reason so many of us aren't sold on State is because State doesn't have a QB that can throw the ball (which seems to be Moorhead's style vs Mullen wanting a running QB).
Fitz is a tough kid and runs hard, but if you look at him as a passer - he's really near the bottom of the league (#11 last year as a passer).
He threw for 15 TDs and 11 INTs. That's just a horrible ratio. And that's with one of the worst Yards/Attempt in the entire conference (6.2).
If Fitz suddenly learned how to throw the ball with any degree of accuracy over the offseason, then I could see State winning 9-10 games. But, if his passing hasn't improved, then 6 or 7 wins is much more realistic.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 12:47 pm to KeoDawg
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11-1 if we cant beat Bama
Stop being so pessimistic. JOMO says SEC Champs. You should lay some money down on that game.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 12:53 pm to KingBarkus
This remind's me of Gene Swindoll's infamous Miss State 2001 prediction. That was good stuff,especially with the commentary about each game.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 12:58 pm to BowlJackson
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6-6
Best case is 8-4
you just love shittin on State... did one of our frat boys bang your girlfriend in college?
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:05 pm to ATLtiger12
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Plus most of Miss States damage was done on the ground last year. They ran the ball like 65% of the time, and relied heavily on Fitzgerald running. He is average passing the ball in my opinion, but had no receivers to help him. They had a ridiculous number of drops in the Auburn game last year. I don't know if that will change this yea
Our running backs, O-line, and new receivers are better this year than last (8-wins)
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Defense should be solid, but it will really depend on how easy the transition is for the current players from Grantham to Shoop. Sometimes there is a big learning curve when switching DC's and certain guys just don't mesh as well in a different scheme.
Last year was Grantham's first and only year at State... same players
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:07 pm to KSGamecock
Sept. 1 Stephen F. Austin W
Sept. 8 at Kansas State L
Sept. 15 Louisiana-Lafayette W
Sept. 22 at Kentucky L
Sept. 29 Florida L
Oct. 6 Auburn W
Oct. 20 at LSU L
Oct. 27 Texas A&M W
Nov. 3 Louisiana Tech W
Nov. 10 at Alabama L
Nov. 17 Arkansas W
Nov. 22 at Ole Miss W
7-5
Sept. 8 at Kansas State L
Sept. 15 Louisiana-Lafayette W
Sept. 22 at Kentucky L
Sept. 29 Florida L
Oct. 6 Auburn W
Oct. 20 at LSU L
Oct. 27 Texas A&M W
Nov. 3 Louisiana Tech W
Nov. 10 at Alabama L
Nov. 17 Arkansas W
Nov. 22 at Ole Miss W
7-5
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:09 pm to Solo Cam
Agree with the 9-3 or 8-4.
Lose to Bama and Auburn. With possibilities to LSU, Florida, and A&M.
Lose to Bama and Auburn. With possibilities to LSU, Florida, and A&M.
This post was edited on 5/22/18 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:10 pm to MSUcoast
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you just love shittin on State... did one of our frat boys bang your girlfriend in college?
This is over used as f on here. Dumb response.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:06 pm to Slippery Slope
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Slippery Slope
^^^ The greatest poster in the history of tLandmass. Bow your fricking heads.
We miss you on the OTB
Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:42 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Slippery is a legend, but doesn’t touch the lore of DanMerlins4Lyfe
This post was edited on 5/22/18 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:55 pm to Pickle_Weasel
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State doesn't have a QB that can throw the ball (which seems to be Moorhead's style vs Mullen wanting a running QB).
Moorhead runs his QB's almost as much as Mullen
Fitz threw for almost 2500 yards and 21 TD's in 2016. His lack of WR's' caused his regression in 2017. That has been rectified
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:08 pm to KSGamecock
Cloudy with a worst of 9-3 moving into a high probability of 11-1 with a high of 12-0
The only team MSU should be worried about is bama, and that's because they are on the road. We are just tough to beat in T-Town.
The only team MSU should be worried about is bama, and that's because they are on the road. We are just tough to beat in T-Town.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:10 pm to KeoDawg
quote:400 of those yards and 5 of those TDs came in one game against Samford
Fitz threw for almost 2500 yards and 21 TD's in 2016. His lack of WR's' caused his regression in 2017. That has been rectified
he averaged 167 ypg and had a 16/8 TD:INT ratio if you take out the Samford game
which really isn't that much better than 2017
This post was edited on 5/22/18 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:14 pm to craigbiggio
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7-5
quote:Same. 7-5. they lose the last 4.
craigbiggio
This post was edited on 5/22/18 at 3:15 pm
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