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Well, explains why we can’t win anything the past 6 years of football. He stole our secrets. You can’t win without secrets. We need our secrets back.
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He's definitely not as cool as Limu Emu


The Shane Gillis skit on this is top shelf. It is outstanding.
Same with my Mawmaw back in the day when she was alive. I would check her mail and could hear “you…….ARE THE FATHER” out by the street like Maury was yelling in my ear standing beside me.
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Ultrasound markers can resolve and screening tests can be wrong. What other testing did you do?


Blood/genetic (if I recall correctly). Don’t want to misrepresent anything.

Didn’t want to go down a rabbit hole from my original question of archeological finds so I’ll bow out. Hope everybody is well.
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So what is it when your child does have down syndrome? Not divine? God didn't create the down syndrome kids?


He absolutely did/does and that is why I said it in my post it would have been fine if my child had Down syndrome (I have an aunt with a condition). All I know is that after 3 ultrasounds, testing, and work ups all of the visible markers and scientific markers were gone.

Again, I’m just relaying a personal experience. That is all.
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I'm agnostic, not atheist but I’m not sure archaeology could prove “Christ is Lord,” because that isn’t really an archaeological proposition. Archaeology could absolutely change my mind about particular biblical claims. Find Noah’s Ark and demonstrate scientifically that it’s actually an ancient ship, and I’ll accept that an ancient ship behind the Noah story existed. Find compelling evidence for the Exodus, and I’ll revise my view of the Exodus accordingly. But establishing that an event happened is different from establishing its supernatural explanation. You could prove Jesus existed, was crucified, had followers who believed he rose from the dead, and even locate his tomb without thereby proving that God resurrected him or that he was God. This isn’t a knock on your beliefs or an attempt to say they aren’t true. It’s just pointing out a basic limitation: supernatural claims can’t be proven or disproven by evidence from the physically observable world alone. To establish a supernatural claim, you’d need evidence that actually demonstrates something supernatural occurred, not merely archaeological evidence that some surrounding historical detail was real.


Another good response. Thank you. What if I told you science (a high risk physician) told my wife and I we were going to have a child with Down syndrome, which would have been perfectly fine, but after multiple/additional hospital visits all of the scientific “markers” disappeared. To the absolute amazement of the physician. He couldn’t explain it and wanted to publish it in some medical literature that circulates in their field. That was a supernatural phenomenon that I personally witnessed. No scientific explanation given. The only thing I know was that it was divine intervention.
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I'd hold off on using phrases I didn't understand.


Thank you I corrected the spelling. In my view, it is intellectual dishonesty to look at creation, you, me, the cosmos, etc. and think/know this all exists outside of a creator. Science can’t, has not, and in my opinion will never prove how creation was created.

I’m not changing your mind through a message board. I understand that. Hope you are well.
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the scientific method requires that the proposer of a thing must be the one burdened to prove the thing. You describe “proving a negative” which is impossible (as you surely know) If you were to say for example that apples cure cancer, it would be impossible for me to disprove that. But that is not my burden, it is yours to prove that they do


That’s a fair statement. I can show where all other religions founders are buried. I can’t show you where mine is buried because He is not there. There is historical texts that validate the existence of Jesus separate and apart from the Bible. I can’t look at the universe and tell you everything is just by coincidence perfectly aligned scientifically. To look at such wonder and have the intellectual dishonesty to say it is anything other than intelligent design makes no sense to me.

The proof to me is there is historical context, it is reliable, and taking the science approach to it, I can’t help but come to the conclusion that there is God, he designed it, you and I are here and have value, and because of that a creator did it and science can’t say how it happen(s)ed. You having the ability to type your reply to me is enough proof that God set all of this in motion for you and I to have a relationship with Him through his son Jesus.
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Christianity is, like all religions, faith-based, not evidence-based. We've seen God's work in our lives and perhaps base our faith in that, or we refuse to see it. No artifact will change that, nor should it. I've been on both sides of that aisle, and so I see that an oversize ego kept me from accepting Christ. When a power greater than ourselves becomes unthinkable, atheism arises


I unequivocally agree with you. And because I believe the Bible is the living word of God I also believe that artifacts/finds (which by the way, there have been many finds to validate Biblical history) can also be something that a non-believer can look at to be a tangible thing to tug at their hearts to give it another look. Don’t get me wrong, Christianity is absolutely faith based but I also think archeological finds just further validates the Bible.

As such, that’s why I posed my original question to non-believers if there could be a find that would change their stance (or at least give it another look).
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No, not really. And that doesn't only apply to Christian artifacts, but all religious artifacts. Most religions are based around some actual events. It isn't a stretch to believe that we would find artifacts that proved some of these events happened to some degree. I imagine you would feel the same for non Christian artifacts.


Appreciate the answer. I always enjoy engaged discussion. I’m not here to argue with anybody’s beliefs. It is my commission to witness to people and spread the gospel but I am not here to hold a grudge to someone that doesn’t believe the way I do.

My original post in this thread was to genuinely engage discussion as to finds that could/would change someone’s belief.

Again, thank you for your answer.
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what kind of archeological find would prove or disprove the divinity of Christ? Noncorporeal and/or spiritual evidence is by definition not preservable


As a believer, I’m not saying there is one. I can guarantee there will be no body found to disprove Christianity. And I am not arguing with anybody as to their beliefs. I just didn’t know, from an archeological standpoint, if there could be an item/find that would change a non-believer’s position.
For those that think Christ is not Lord and think Biblical accounts are just fairy tails: what is, or is there, any archaeological find that would change your mind?

This is not a troll attempt just genuinely curious if there is anything that could change your belief.

Edited to add: I’m not saying this is Noah’s Ark…I’m asking generally, is there any archaeological find that would change your stance as an atheist or non-Christian.

re: Unplanned 'IRL' TD baws run ins

Posted by threedog79 on 9/28/26 at 12:27 pm to
My wife went to LSU so we go each year to a game. Out of that massive stadium a guy sitting in front of me was posting here. I’m assuming it was the in game thread because every time something of note happened he would post. It was when NuMbeR FIvE (typed that way so I don’t get sued by him) was QB… his second year.
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it's the same school Peyton and Eli played at, dumbass


Does it change the fact he was beating up on Private school white boys? What does his uncles playing there have to do with that?

Factual reasoning is completely gone in today’s world.
Wasn’t he beating up on private school white boys in high school? That along with the last name and it is unrealistic expectations. He is a “good” QB but there shouldn’t be a “tank for Arch” mantra for sure.
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One of my grandfathers was barely too young to fight in WWI and was too old for WW2. It really bothered him because he felt like he missed out. Another relative fought in WWI. He said people would want to be buddies with country boys because most knew how to handle a rifle. He also said if they ever tried to make him fight in another war, they’d never take him alive.


My grandfather lied about his age and enlisted and barely missed WWII. They sent him to Europe for the rebuilding process. He then fought in Korea and Vietnam. He was considered an old man in Vietnam. Was a door gunner on a Huey. I thought it was funny when I was little when he would hit the ground when there was an unexpected loud noise. Of course at that age I didn’t realize the hell he went through.
Yeah. He hustles EVERY play. He was the one that recognized last week/ or week before a busted coverage and he tried to make the play. He just cares.
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Coach said in the presser they tried space blocking, they have shuffled the alignment, they trying I just think we have less than ideal personnel.


It has always amazes me being a 5’ 8” 170lb guy that humans that are 6’3-6’6” 300lbs can’t at least hold serve on an offensive line. I get the other guys are about as big, but just baffles me that (we particularly) can’t move the person in front of us enough to allow a RB to gain 4 yards a carry.

Like can you imagine waking up in the morning at 6’ 5” 310lbs and looking yourself in the mirror and know you are staring at a titty baby?

re: Auburn Vs Vandy LOTR Edition

Posted by threedog79 on 9/26/26 at 10:10 pm to
I said that last week and got downvoted. They should open -13 to -17 and will cover.

Their QB is going to be a nightmare for DCs the next couple of years.

re: Auburn Vs Vandy LOTR Edition

Posted by threedog79 on 9/26/26 at 9:11 pm to
Well, it was at least a win. But this team is dookie juice. Not one improvement offensively. That being said, atta boy ST.

Comrade is publicly doing “the things” (eg run around the student section after the game, thanks the fans in the presser, personally checks on a downed player, etc,) but goodness the offensive play calling/execution is worse than the little catholic school flag football near my house.

re: Dreaming

Posted by threedog79 on 9/26/26 at 8:55 pm to
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This! But, I also think that someone, maybe a booster, made another crossroads deal in 2013, what else could explain the “Prayer in Jordan Hare” and the “Kick Six” in the same season. But, that person tried to back out of the deal, and we’ve been cursed since that championship game.


Yeah. So if it is any of y’all on this site or anybody knows who it is…please tender your soul so we can get out of this crap. You can’t crawfish the devil. Just give up your soul and we will get you in church.