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re: Peter Burns accurately sums up the Orange Bowl this morning on X...
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:32 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:32 am to RollTide1987
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FSU's success was because of how well they hit the transfer portal
So was Ole Miss but yet their transfers didn’t opt out….
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Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:36 am to RollTide1987
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why didn't Auburn quit in 2004? They went undefeated in the toughest and deepest power conference, won the SEC Championship Game, and got left out of the national championship game in favor of USC and Oklahoma. Did any of them rage quit? No. They all showed up and beat Virginia Tech in the Sugar Bowl.
To be fair, in 2004 quitting wasn’t really an option either. Unless you wanted to lose your scholarship
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:37 am to geauxbrown
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Were the kids who didn’t play in the bowl game for FSU even alive in 2004?
That moment you realize people born in 2004 are in college and now I feel old
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:39 am to RollTide1987
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But transfers tend to be mercenaries who value self over team
Word to the wise.....
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:52 am to jangalang
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Those selfish players went undefeated.
Bama could not.
Sure but that only means something when your comparing apples to apples schedule wise. A full strength FSU team loses 2 games against Alabama's schedule. Injuries and ipt outs aside, they aren't beating Texas and Georgia.
To put the two schedules in perspective consider the following bowl results...
USF - 45
Syracuse - 0
Those two teams were the 8th best team on each team's respective schedule
Clemson - 38
Kentucky - 35
The 4th best team on FSU's schedule needed a last minute touchdown drive to slip by the 6th or 7th best team on Alabama's schedule and that same 6th or 7th best team on Alabama's schedule beat the 2nd best team on FSU's schedule on their home field and put up over twice as many points as FSU did in doing so.
That's just a small snapshot example of how weak FSU's schedule was in comparison to Alabama's and why there was some justification to put a 1 loss Alabama team in the playoff ahead of an undefeated FSU team.
Not to mention that even the absolute weakest teams on Georgia's schedule ALL managed to stay within 60 points of Georgia during the regular season.
If FSU would have even managed to stay within 30 points of Georgia they may have had somewhat of a legitimate argument but not when you lose by the largest margin in bowl game history.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:54 am to Govt Tide
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Sure but that only means something when your comparing apples to apples schedule wise. A full strength FSU team loses 2 games against Alabama's schedule.
Injuries and ipt outs aside, they aren't beating Texas and Georgia.
Those are just flimsy assumptions. Even Auburn beat Alabama. Teams have bad games.
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 11:56 am
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:59 am to Hellmet
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even though Alabama won the damn thing just a couple years ago with a backup QB?
When did Alabama win with a backup QB?
In 2017, Jalen Hurts was benched at half time for true freshman Tua. However, there were calls for Tua to start all season.
In 2020, they won with starter Mac Jones.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:03 pm to Hellmet
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supposed to be a major conference,
The ACC is supposed to be a major conference. It ain’t.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:04 pm to redandblackattack
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We live in a prideless society that is more concerned with selfish needs and perception than principles. Tifwiw jmho
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:09 pm to joshnorris14
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When did Alabama win with a backup QB? In 2017, Jalen Hurts was benched at half time for true freshman Tua. However, there were calls for Tua to start all season.
He was still a backup in the regular season.
Just like Nico was a backup in the regular season despite all those calls....
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:10 pm to jangalang
Doesn't change the fact they are selfish not selflish
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:00 pm to Hellmet
Ballers ball, quitters quit.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:12 pm to jangalang
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Those selfish players went undefeated.
No they didn't. There was a game yesterday.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:15 pm to jangalang
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Those selfish players went undefeated. Bama could not.
Liberty also went undefeated. Should they have been in?
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:17 pm to TDFreak
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GTFO. If Georgia was screwed as bad as FSU, the exact same thing would have happened to them.
Georgia was screwed more than FSU. Georgia was easily one of the 4 best teams. Probably 10 teams could beat FSU even with Travis
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:21 pm to scottydoesntknow
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Liberty also went undefeated. Should they have been in?
Don't forget James Madison. Surely they deserved a spot too!
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:42 pm to jangalang
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Those selfish players went undefeated.
I also didn’t lose a college football game this year.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:45 pm to imjustafatkid
He makes a good point u can’t act like Fla state had all their starters missing 28 players?
This will continue to be a major problem in the future of college football unless you make these professional football players ( no longer college players) official sign contracts that make them play if not take away money or fine them extensively. I’d the NCAA would come out with a common /?standard for all contracts for D1 this crap would .stop. If not maybe fans should become more interested in FCS teams, where apparently they still play for the love of the game.
This will continue to be a major problem in the future of college football unless you make these professional football players ( no longer college players) official sign contracts that make them play if not take away money or fine them extensively. I’d the NCAA would come out with a common /?standard for all contracts for D1 this crap would .stop. If not maybe fans should become more interested in FCS teams, where apparently they still play for the love of the game.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:47 pm to Swampcat
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If not maybe fans should become more interested in FCS teams, where apparently they still play for the love of the game.
The influx of fan interest and the consequent money would ruin *that*, too.
In the end, the fans are responsible for the present state of D1 college football.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:51 pm to RollTide1987
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Kirby has instilled pride in his program where as Mike Norvell had to rely heavily on the transfer portal to jump start FSU's rebuild.
Sounds very kiffinish.
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